Bailey Peacock Farrell

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:57 pm

What's all this about Mercer the magician and wait till Billy gets his hands on BPF?

I haven't seen any evidence that he has improved Hart one iota. his performances last season and the stats compared to Heaton and Pope showed him to be be well behind them, and little signs of getting over his weaknesses.

Billy unfortunately has not been a magician with Hart, but that doesn't mean he can't achieve that with BPF like he did with Pope.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:57 pm

northeastclaret wrote:What's all this about Mercer the magician and wait till Billy gets his hands on BPF?

I haven't seen any evidence that he has improved Hart one iota. his performances last season and the stats compared to Heaton and Pope showed him to be be well behind them, and little signs of getting over his weaknesses.

Billy unfortunately has not been a magician with Hart, but that doesn't mean he can't achieve that with BPF like he did with Pope.

Heaton made more mistakes that led to a goal than Hart.

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:59 pm

Seems a solid signing and certainly one that can be improved upon. Only concern is he has been quite vocal in his quest for first team football - what with us needing a 2nd/3rd choice depending on Hart means he won't be seeing much first team football at Burnley in the near future, yet we can't really afford to loan him back out.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:02 pm

BP-F wiki page. 9 caps, 40 for Leeds. 0goals. You can’t have everything!
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northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:03 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Heaton made more mistakes that led to a goal than Hart.

Ha ha you saying that Hart is better than Heaton , I wish other clubs had that view then they would be signing Hart for free instead of Heaton for a fee, that's the answer.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:05 pm

tiger76 wrote:Of course they're miserable beggars,they're used to failure,is there anybody else we can nick off them

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:06 pm

northeastclaret wrote:Ha ha you saying that Hart is better than Heaton , I wish other clubs had that view then they would be signing Hart for free instead of Heaton for a fee, that's the answer.

Never said he was better, just pointing out where Hart did better than Heaton last season, that's allowed with a stat isn't it?

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:13 pm

Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemba?

Un-importantly anyone still quoting Joe Hart facts about how great a keeper he has been for Burnley needs to remove their head from their ****.

The comments about our GK coach are equally amazing, spotting and then turning Heaton and Pope into England internationals from relegated teams in the Championship. One of the reasons their hero Hart signed in the first place.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:18 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemba?

Johann Berg Gudmundsson?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:18 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemba?

Un-importantly anyone still quoting Joe Hart facts about how great a keeper he has been for Burnley needs to remove their head from their ****.

The comments about our GK coach are equally amazing, spotting and then turning Heaton and Pope into England internationals from relegated teams in the Championship. One of the reasons their hero Hart signed in the first place.

Mate have you forgotten the footballing JCB known as Gifton Noel Williams?
Shame on you.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:27 pm

and Johan Berg Gudmundsson

Andingle · Post by **Andingle** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:32 pm

and Super Johnny Francis

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:32 pm

dandeclaret wrote:and Johan Berg Gudmundsson

You've done me there!

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:33 pm

Braindead wrote:Mate have you forgotten the footballing JCB known as Gifton Noel Williams?
Shame on you.

Amazingly I was about to use him and then Eric popped nto my mind as most recent! Seen your other post, you're on fire.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:37 pm

Kevin Finbarr Long?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:42 pm

northeastclaret wrote:What's all this about Mercer the magician and wait till Billy gets his hands on BPF?

I haven't seen any evidence that he has improved Hart one iota. his performances last season and the stats compared to Heaton and Pope showed him to be be well behind them, and little signs of getting over his weaknesses.

Billy unfortunately has not been a magician with Hart, but that doesn't mean he can't achieve that with BPF like he did with Pope.

Improving a young player who is still learning and stepping up a level is easier than improving an established international in his thirties.

Off the top of your head, how many footballers can you name who were established internationals in their twenties and made noticeable improvements to their game in their thirties? It's very rare. I can't think of any.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:48 pm

dsr wrote:Improving a young player who is still learning and stepping up a level is easier than improving an established international in his thirties.

Off the top of your head, how many footballers can you name who were established internationals in their twenties and made noticeable improvements to their game in their thirties? It's very rare. I can't think of any.

Teddy Sheringham?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:50 pm

dsr wrote:Improving a young player who is still learning and stepping up a level is easier than improving an established international in his thirties.

Off the top of your head, how many footballers can you name who were established internationals in their twenties and made noticeable improvements to their game in their thirties? It's very rare. I can't think of any.

A chap by the name of Graham Alexander

Have you heard of him?

I’ll only give you one clue. He’s got nothing to do with the telephone.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:53 pm

Was Graham Alexander an established international in his twenties ?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote:A chap by the name of Graham Alexander

Have you heard of him?

I’ll only give you one clue. He’s got nothing to do with the telephone.

The point about Graham Alexander, who I have heard of you sarky so-and-so, is that he wasn't an established international in his twenties. To improve a player who is not at the top of the game is easier than improving a player who is.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:55 pm

dsr wrote:The point about Graham Alexander, who I have heard of you sarky so-and-so, is that he wasn't an established international in his twenties. To improve a player who is not at the top of the game is easier than improving a player who is.

It was just a little joke dsr, don’t be so precious young man.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:57 pm

ksrclaret wrote:It was just a little joke dsr, don’t be so precious young man.

If being called a "sarky so-and-so" touches a nerve, try not to get involved in any discussions with imploding turtle!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:03 pm

dsr wrote:If being called a "sarky so-and-so" touches a nerve, try not to get involved in any discussions with imploding turtle!

Heck imploding turtle must be really scary if a big boy like you dsr is scared of him

Luckily this is a football thread so if we stay on this one we should be safe here

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:08 pm

It's a very subjective argument but you could say anyone who has football intelligence and their game doesn't rely entirely on pace - because by the time they reach their 30s they've absorbed the knowledge and experience they couldn't possibly have had in their 20s - Sheringham is an excellent example, you could make a case for Peter Crouch and Jermaine Defoe along the same lines - it's far from unprecedented.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:12 pm

He sounds like a firm of solicitors

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:17 am

Will he be as good as the last Farrell we had in goal though ?!

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:53 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemba?

There's a handful with three names but is Bailey Peacock Farrell the first to have three surnames?

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:58 am

dsr wrote:Improving a young player who is still learning and stepping up a level is easier than improving an established international in his thirties.

Off the top of your head, how many footballers can you name who were established internationals in their twenties and made noticeable improvements to their game in their thirties? It's very rare. I can't think of any.

Peter Shilton?

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:12 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemba?.

Rocket Ron Futcher

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:14 am

Ray Whooshie Deakin

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:33 am

Graham Di Branchio.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:36 am

dsr wrote:The point about Graham Alexander, who I have heard of you sarky so-and-so, is that he wasn't an established international in his twenties. To improve a player who is not at the top of the game is easier than improving a player who is.

You can't improve a player at the top of his game ...... because he's at the top of his game ???

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:44 am

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:00 am

Rowls wrote:There's a handful with three names but is Bailey Peacock Farrell the first to have three surnames?

I won’t be paying for his name on my shirt

BackoffDave · Post by **BackoffDave** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:32 am

True that he had half a season for us but wasnt overly impressive. It was suggested early on that Bielsa wasnt overly keen and would've been playing Jamal Blackman regularly instead if he hadnt broken his leg. Casilla was signed because BPF couldnt be relied on (although Casilla threw a few in towards the end). Around £3.5 million (if true) is about right for him at the minute.

I'll only say the same as I said with Taylor when you got him, if he's managed properly and coached well then he'll be a half decent player and Burnley do at least have a decent 'keeper coaching setup.

Only odd thing for me is that he's left to play more and then gone to sit on the bench as second or third choice?

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:41 am

Sounds too posh for us. May be from the Patrick Bamford school of men....

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:42 am

kaptin1 wrote:He sounds like a firm of solicitors

Or a rare butterfly.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:47 am

Rowls wrote:There's a handful with three names but is Bailey Peacock Farrell the first to have three surnames?

C'mon Rowls, keep up with the times! Bailey is now used as a Christian name.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:48 am

Leisure wrote:C'mon Rowls, keep up with the times! Bailey is now used as a Christian name.

No doubt so is peacock and Farrel ( although they'll probably be feral )

williamjblazkowicz · Post by **williamjblazkowicz** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:48 am

Ash Lee Barnes.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 am

BackoffDave wrote:Only odd thing for me is that he's left to play more and then gone to sit on the bench as second or third choice?

Amazing how a huge pay rise can change a player's priorities.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:53 am

Hibsclaret wrote:Sounds too posh for us. May be from the Patrick Bamford school of men....

Double barrelled used to sound posh. Now it is more likely to mean dubious background.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:53 am

Tall Paul wrote:Amazing how a huge pay rise can change a player's priorities.

Not to mention the chance to play in the Premier League, and to work with one of the best Goalkeeping Coaches.
And, let us not forget, the chance to get the hell out of Elland Rd.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:55 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Not to mention the chance to play in the Premier League, and to work with one of the best Goalkeeping Coaches.
And, let us not forget, the chance to get the hell out of Elland Rd.

That all goes without saying.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:56 am

Why wouldn’t you move to a bigger club in a better league and be paid more money?

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:59 am

There's a video on Twitter showing some of the goals he's conceded. Some absolute shockers in there.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:01 am

All of the above and the fact that I don’t think he’s what you might call a fans favourite after his poor performances last season.

A fresh start on more money and at a higher level is a no-brainer.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:09 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Importantly, can anyone confirm if this is the first signing of a treble named played since Eric Djemba Djemb.

We've even gone one better than that..

Ian Wright-Wright-Wright

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:15 am

Giftless Noel Williams

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:17 am

Has he signed yet?

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