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Kalvin Phillips

Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:35 am

Its been reported today that Burnley have offered Matej Vydra and cash for Leeds midfield player Kalvin Phillips. Offer turned down but Dyche wants to pursue it,

Has anyone else seen this thread concering our 'Feeder' club?
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:41 am

Nixon mentions it on Twitter

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:43 am

Bound to happen, Phillips is about our level and Leeds nurture our star players,I would be happy with this one.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by lucs86 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:44 am

This would be a superb signing, worth breaking the bank for in my opinion. Strong, fast, aggressive, young, can play a bit. Perfect box to box midfielder for us.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:48 am

As has been said on the other thread, would be a terrific signing but we've left it far too late to get him.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:49 am

He's a quality midfielder, would surely want to move to the Premier League, and Bielsa is a big fan of Vydra.

I don't want Vydra to leave unless it's for a player like Phillips.

I don't think we've left it too late.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:52 am

Please let us keep signing Leeds best players. It is hilarious in our office.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:55 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's a quality midfielder, would surely want to move to the Premier League, and Bielsa is a big fan of Vydra.

I don't want Vydra to leave unless it's for a player like Phillips.

I don't think we've left it too late.
We'll see, Frank, but we've got until Thursday evening to get it done. I can't see it happening at this late stage.

It's too tight for us to agree a fee (even longer if Burnley are involved!), for Leeds to get a replacement and then it's complicated further if Vydra is indeed involved in any deal.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:58 am

ksrclaret wrote:We'll see, Frank, but we've got until Thursday evening to get it done. I can't see it happening at this late stage.

It's too tight for us to agree a fee (even longer if Burnley are involved!), for Leeds to get a replacement and then it's complicated further if Vydra is indeed involved in any deal.
Keep Vydra,and just stump up the cash.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:00 am

ksrclaret wrote:We'll see, Frank, but we've got until Thursday evening to get it done. I can't see it happening at this late stage.

It's too tight for us to agree a fee (even longer if Burnley are involved!), for Leeds to get a replacement and then it's complicated further if Vydra is indeed involved in any deal.
It's defence that Leeds need to strengthen and they get Vydra and cash to spend in that department. They have also done late deals in the past.

Bielsa certainly a fan of Vydra which could go in our favour.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by taffy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:05 am

Vydra isn't wanted or needed anyway to get him out of the club is a bonus and if Phillips comes the other way that would be great business

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Paul Waine » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:06 am

Bielsa in Sunday Times ‘I have a lot of confidence with the squad that I have at the moment,’ the Argentinian said. ’We have three players for each position. Even though there are not 33 players, we have 18 players that are good enough to play in three positions differently.’

maybe he will be ready to trade one of their "three players for each position"....

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:16 am

ksrclaret wrote:As has been said on the other thread, would be a terrific signing but we've left it far too late to get him.
Why is if ''far too late to get him''?

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:17 am

Quicknick wrote:Why is if ''far too late to get him''?
See post #8

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:18 am

ksrclaret wrote:See post #8
I have now but I don't agree. This could have been bubbling up for a while. None of us on here know what's going on.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:19 am

Quicknick wrote:I have now but I don't agree.
Okay. Thanks for letting me know.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Archer » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:20 am

ksrclaret wrote:See post #8
Yep, because we can now start things moving as Nixon has posted this. Absolutely nothing done prior to this point.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:20 am

What if we've been working on a deal for a while but the story has only just broken in the media. Would it still be too late to get him?
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:20 am

ksrclaret wrote:See post #8

Absolute nonsense
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Archer » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:21 am

Tall Paul wrote:What if we've been working on a deal for a while but the story has only just broken in the media. Would it still be too late to get him?
Yes because some guy above says so. Multiple times. On multiple threads.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:23 am

Archer wrote:Yes because some guy above says so. Multiple times. On multiple threads.
Just my opinion.

If you don't agree that's fine. Try not being a nob about it though?
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by nyclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:25 am

He posted this on Instagram yesterday. Doesn't seem like he's about to move. https://www.instagram.com/p/B0sZLrjhypd/
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:26 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's a quality midfielder, would surely want to move to the Premier League, and Bielsa is a big fan of Vydra.

I don't want Vydra to leave unless it's for a player like Phillips.

I don't think we've left it too late.
Roofe is off to Anderlecht apparently (Hart is also being tapped up by them) Vincent Kompany wants him.

So Vydra would be a good fit at Leeds with Phillips coming this way.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:27 am

Bid of Vydra plus £11m or "Round about that" per Nixon. That must value KP at circa £20m?

UTC!

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:27 am

Tall Paul wrote:What if we've been working on a deal for a while but the story has only just broken in the media. Would it still be too late to get him?
If we get him I'll hold my hands up.

Deals take ages to complete though and seems like recent interest.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:32 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's a quality midfielder, would surely want to move to the Premier League, and Bielsa is a big fan of Vydra.

I don't want Vydra to leave unless it's for a player like Phillips.

I don't think we've left it too late.
If, as reported, an offer is in then Burnley have set the ball rolling. First offers are usually knocked back. If he's as good as some on here say then Burnley have to get him.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:36 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's a quality midfielder, would surely want to move to the Premier League, and Bielsa is a big fan of Vydra.

I don't want Vydra to leave unless it's for a player like Phillips.

I don't think we've left it too late.
If, as reported, an offer is in then Burnley have set the ball rolling. First offers are usually knocked back. If he's as good as some on here say then Burnley have to get him.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:36 am

Duffer_ wrote:Bid of Vydra plus £11m or "Round about that" per Nixon. That must value KP at circa £20m?

UTC!
They want 30 mil for Phillips.

Sounds like they want their cake and eat it and keep him whilst getting Vydra.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:43 am

I like him but he's only had one good season and is unproven at PL level. I always thought he was a red card waiting to happen but he looked more disciplined
and noticably leaner and fitter last season. 20 is plenty imo but it's Leeds prerogative. I don't see him rocking the boat to leave either. On balance, I don't see it happening.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by MACCA » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:44 am

At 29, you'd think he is similar to Cork regards his style and attributes may only be there for a season or 2.

Could be another useful 2 year stop gap, but I'd much rather be breaking our transfer record on someone with either there best 5 years ahead of them, time to develop and improve, possibly sell on for a bigger fee and not be just dead money.


Hey ho we will see

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:45 am

MACCA wrote:At 29, you'd think he is similar to Cork regards his style and attributes may only be there for a season or 2.

Could be another useful 2 year stop gap, but I'd much rather be breaking our transfer record on someone with either there best 5 years ahead of them, time to develop and improve, possibly sell on for a bigger fee and not be just dead money.


Hey ho we will see
He’s 23.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:45 am

MACCA wrote:At 29, you'd think he is similar to Cork regards his style and attributes may only be there for a season or 2.

Could be another useful 2 year stop gap, but I'd much rather be breaking our transfer record on someone with either there best 5 years ahead of them, time to develop and improve, possibly sell on for a bigger fee and not be just dead money.


Hey ho we will see
Phillips is 23 Macca

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:46 am

MACCA wrote:At 29, you'd think he is similar to Cork regards his style and attributes may only be there for a season or 2.

Could be another useful 2 year stop gap, but I'd much rather be breaking our transfer record on someone with either there best 5 years ahead of them, time to develop and improve, possibly sell on for a bigger fee and not be just dead money.


Hey ho we will see
Are you getting him mixed up with someone else?

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:46 am

MACCA wrote:At 29, you'd think he is similar to Cork regards his style and attributes may only be there for a season or 2.

Could be another useful 2 year stop gap, but I'd much rather be breaking our transfer record on someone with either there best 5 years ahead of them, time to develop and improve, possibly sell on for a bigger fee and not be just dead money.


Hey ho we will see
He's 23, not 29

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by MACCA » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:48 am

ksrclaret wrote:He's 23, not 29

Must be, thought someone above said he was 29.

My bad.
then yes, thats exactly the type/age of a player we should be looking st and possibly breaking our transfer record on.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:49 am

Work with his cousin who is really close to him. Working in London most of week but could be in the Leeds office tomorrow so if I see her I'll ask her to see if she knows owt

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Longsidelenny » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:56 am

Good player but will take till Christmas to get dyche fit

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:56 am

This is the type of signing we should be looking at.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:02 pm

Longsidelenny wrote: to get dyche fit
No such thing.
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:05 pm

Longsidelenny wrote:Good player but will take till Christmas to get dyche fit
Defour went straight into the team when he signed.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:05 pm

I've genuinely never heard of him or seen him play. Did he come through the ranks at Leeds?

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:05 pm

Agree, Dyche-fit is a myth.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:09 pm

Also, this guy has just played a season and completed another preseason under Bielsa.

He'll be as fit as anyone in our team
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Right_winger » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:14 pm

Would be happy with Phillips. Plenty of energy and snap to his play. He’s Dyche like in his work rate and defensive responsibilities but he can also ping a few through balls.

Would be disappointed to see Vydra go as I feel he has something, but Dyche is never going to play him so good deal all round .

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:15 pm

Quicknick wrote:Defour went straight into the team when he signed.
And look at what's happened to him since ;)

Wood or Hendrick are better examples.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:18 pm

nyclaret wrote:He posted this on Instagram yesterday. Doesn't seem like he's about to move. https://www.instagram.com/p/B0sZLrjhypd/
And Tarks was singing in the stands
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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:22 pm

Longsidelenny wrote:Good player but will take till Christmas to get dyche fit
Can you explain what "Dyche fit" is....I think it's some sort of myth thought up by someone on here,come on who's to blame for this crap....own up!

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:22 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:And Tarks was singing in the stands
:lol:

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by agreenwood » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:37 pm

If our interest is true, it’s now far too late.

It’s extremely rare for a club to cave in and sell a key player this late in the window without it involving astronomical figures.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that Leeds have already sold a number of players this summer without replacing them and it’d be suicidal from a PR perspective to sell Phillips now.

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Re: Kalvin Phillips

Post by taio » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:39 pm

The idea it's too late is utter ********
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