Kalvin Phillips

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:41 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:I've genuinely never heard of him or seen him play. Did he come through the ranks at Leeds?

Yep local lad who's come right through their youth system from schoolboy

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:41 pm

So as there will be no key players going now because it's too late in the window for teams to replace them should be a quiet last day and just reserve players will be sold.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:44 pm

I have amazing predictive powers, so here is my prediction:

1. Tuesday we up our bid to £12 million plus Vydra. Leeds reject it (they value him a £30 million and out staff don't work weekends)
2. Thursday. Aston Villa bid £25 million and get their man.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:44 pm

I reckon he'll have been talking to Wood and Taylor.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:50 pm

I find the idea of us signing Phillips utterly laughable.

If Villa couldn’t get him 6/8 weeks ago, with all their cash to burn, then there’s zero chance we will with 4 days of the window left.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:54 pm

TsarBomba wrote:I find the idea of us signing Phillips utterly laughable.

If Villa couldn’t get him 6/8 weeks ago, with all their cash to burn, then there’s zero chance we will with 4 days of the window left.

It’s a tactic we use often, pretend we’re genuinely interested in spending cash to keep the fans happy and then end up with cheap players.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:56 pm

TsarBomba wrote:I find the idea of us signing Phillips utterly laughable.

If Villa couldn’t get him 6/8 weeks ago, with all their cash to burn, then there’s zero chance we will with 4 days of the window left.

This is only true if you take for gospel every tabloid transfer rumour. You’ve no idea what conversations might have been had between the clubs, agent and player.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:30 pm

No point trying to do a swap deal at this stage in the transfer wimdow, far too many variables. If we want Phillips and they want Vydra they need to be done as seperate deals with the plan if one falls through on either side the other is still allowed to happen. The agents hold all the cards in these situations as they know you want the deal to happen and they often hike the personal terms and change the goalposts playing on the importance of the deal going through and know if you dont agree it is too far down the line to actively pursue other targets. This is why the Dybala and Lukaku deal keeps dragging on.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:32 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:No point trying to do a swap deal at this stage in the transfer wimdow, far too many variables. If we want Phillips and they want Vydra they need to be done as seperate deals with the plan if one falls through on either side the other is still allowed to happen. The agents hold all the cards in these situations as they know you want the deal to happen and they often hike the personal terms and change the goalposts playing on the importance of the deal going through and know if you dont agree it is too far down the line to actively pursue other targets. This is why the Dybala and Lukaku deal keeps dragging on.

Plus Dybalas agent wants £13.4 million

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:35 pm

It is certainly getting a bit worrying.
And I'm a bit of a happy Clapper!

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:39 pm

joey13 wrote:Plus Dybalas agent wants £13.4 million

Because he knows how much UTD need the deal to go through. He knows they will pay it as they are desperate. They cant keep Lukaku now and Juve wont pay the fee which has been obvious from the 1st day of the transfer window. They are even trying to now add Manducvic (?) To the deal to lessen their outlay even more.

Juve might have signed Ronaldo but that was subsised by Adidas and they have no money in their coffers.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:46 pm

joey13 wrote:Plus Dybalas agent wants £13.4 million

Plus Dybalas wants £350k per week

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:55 pm

did well at Sunderland

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:14 pm

£11million plus Vydra was supposed to be out opening offer for Phillips.
Maybe another 3/4 million might do it

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:19 pm

Is that 3 to 4 or 3/4 of a million?

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:20 pm

3 to 4

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Phillips starts for Leeds today

Claretpants · Post by **Claretpants** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Starts for Weeds today

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:48 pm

Smacks a little of desperation this one.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:58 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:Smacks a little of desperation this one.

How?

This lad has been an obvious target the whole window , and if Leeds are interested in Vydra then it makes total sense .

And by obvious I mean, he fits the bill perfectly, not that we have been chasing him all summer . Thankyou

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:02 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:How?

This lad has been an obvious target the whole window , and if Leeds are interested in Vydra then it makes total sense .

And by obvious I mean, he fits the bill perfectly, not that we have been chasing him all summer . Thankyou

But they don't want Vydra or to sell Phillips so pretty much a non starter this one. This is probably the midfielder that Nixon said we were after and was unavailable.

I'll be surprised if we manage to bring a midfileder in before the deadline now but one lives in hope

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:03 pm

Firthy wrote:But they don't want Vydra or to sell Phillips so pretty much a non starter this one. This is probably the midfielder that Nixon said we were after and was unavailable.

I'll be surprised if we manage to bring a midfileder in before the deadline now but one lives in hope

How do you know they don’t want Vydra?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:05 pm

Starts for Leeds at Bristol City ( 401 for sky viewers ) lets see what he's all about.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:05 pm

He’s unavailable until the finances make him available.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:10 pm

Get that match fitness up for us. Thanks Leeds

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:11 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:He’s unavailable until the finances make him available.

Yeh but dealing with facts rather just just criticising Burnley for apparently being at fault in any transfer deal isn’t as much fun.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:15 pm

You'd think he'd be able to speak English by now. Christ.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:25 pm

Apparently Vydra wants a transfer now.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:25 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:How?

This lad has been an obvious target the whole window , and if Leeds are interested in Vydra then it makes total sense .

And by obvious I mean, he fits the bill perfectly, not that we have been chasing him all summer . Thankyou

Has he been an obvious target all window? We wanted Klich originally didn’t we? It just seems like our scouting hasn’t broadened in any way - Championship players, usually at Leeds or Stoke. It’s tired.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:26 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Apparently Vydra wants a transfer now.

Who could blame him?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:27 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:Has he been an obvious target all window? We wanted Klich originally didn’t we? It just seems like our scouting hasn’t broadened in any way - Championship players, usually at Leeds or Stoke. It’s tired.

Does it matter who we sign them from really?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:30 pm

If he's available for transfer why's he starting for Leeds today,seems strange,if we can use Vydra as part of the deal to get this over the line,all the better,Vydra's never going to feature much so he might as well move on.

California Colner · Post by **California Colner** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:56 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Can you explain what "Dyche fit" is....I think it's some sort of myth thought up by someone on here,come on who's to blame for this crap....own up!

Dyche fit was prevalent to the time in the Championship which we were the fittest team in the league, we just never stopped all the game.
However PL is a different animal, all teams are exceptionally fit and Dyche fit dose not stand out as much.
Just my opinion

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:58 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Does it matter who we sign them from really?

Not at all.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:58 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:Who could blame him?

He has been treated abysmally.

Longsidebogs · Post by **Longsidebogs** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:59 pm

Phillips looks shite so far.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:59 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Apparently Vydra wants a transfer now.

Forcing through a move to Leeds but cash only. Only according to them in the centre pubs.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:01 pm

Think the lad klick is a better player from what I've seen so far , the lad Phillips plays very deep

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:05 pm

Hes playing defensive midfield role
What are u expecting ??

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:05 pm

Safron wrote:Think the lad klick is a better player from what I've seen so far , the lad Phillips plays very deep

Phillips is instructed to play deep. He's playing the anchor man role.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:17 pm

Thought we were after a box to box man not a sitter?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:19 pm

Safron wrote:Thought we were after a box to box man not a sitter?

Its what he's been told to do today.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:20 pm

You'd assume he could be both, depending on his gaffer's tactics.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:20 pm

Oh I see ,it's not his natural game then

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:21 pm

I'd argue it is more of a sitter we need. Someone to take over Cork's role in the side.

It'd allow Westwood to push forward, press harder, snap into tackles and win the ball high up the pitch.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:22 pm

Safron wrote:Thought we were after a box to box man not a sitter?

He's not that bad !! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . oh, I see, sitter !!!!

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:04 pm

Leeds are good to watch and will be good bet to be up there on this evidence

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:05 pm

They'll always be there or there abouts. It's whether they crumble or not.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:09 pm

Bristol won't be up there on this showing.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:11 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Bristol won't be up there on this showing.

I was surprised to see Fulham losing yesterday, do you know who have left from last season? Babel has gone, and the big lump up front; Sess has stayed, but that's all I know.