they can sell whoever they want, the ban is only for incoming transfersICL wrote:How long is the Chelsea transfer embargo for? Could they sell him January?
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What are our options for January if he’s been a success?
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He was worth 35 million 2 years ago. So you would have been happy with us signing Andy Carroll because he was a 45 million pound signing?Blyclaret wrote:I have never in my life met such a bunch of ******* whingers
We have just signed a £35 million pound midfielder for 6 months and still complaining
Get a ******* life
And it isnt 6 months it is 5 months.
If you were a manager would you replace a loyal servant if he had a few bad games with a player that wasnt going to be there in a few months time? Risking alienating an important member of the squad. Somehow I dont think Dyche will do that. This stinks of desperation, personally if Chelsea threw these terms on the table late on i would have walked away and gone with what we had.
Not saying he isnt a good player because I think he is better than all our midfield players but just think we have him here as backup.
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The same chance as every other club. But at 100k a weeks with a fee of probably 15 million upwards he would be out of our league. The only hope is SD throws him on when we are winning and tells him to play shite. Therefore no other clubs being interested in January and his price plummeting. Then we sweep in and offer a couple of million ha haRick_Muller wrote:If it works out and he enjoys himself with us would we have an option to buy in January?
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Good player, and in those terms its an excellent signing who undoubtedly can improve the first eleven. Apart from being a good all-rounder, he's got the ability to hit raking passes to switch the play which we've missed since Dean Marney was getting one of those right every now and again, so he'll help us move the ball quicker. That'll help various players, most obviously Wood when he's playing on the shoulder, but also Lennon who might now get the ball delivered to him early when he can isolate a defender and utilise his pace.
It's a bit of a tricky one in another sense though, because he's obviously coming to start games and is unquestionably in direct competition with Cork and Westwood for one of 2 places, so you'd imagine one of those good servants - who we'll need beyond January - is going to have to make way (I can't see any of them playing ahead in a 3). That begs a question of how they react to that and where it leaves them - and us - if Drinkwater's deal isn't extended. That's the drawback of any loan deal for an established player coming for first team football, but it's a particular problem if he's only here till January. With a bit of luck, the truth of this is it is really a season long deal, but it's being expressed in this way to manage expectations about a break clause being exercised. But if not, we clearly need to have a few contingencies in play for January - if Hendrick doesn't sign a new deal we could also be in a position where we're thinking of cashing in with him in January too.
But we deal in the present, and on balance you'd have to say we'll spend the first half of this season with a stronger squad than the second half of last season. That's a decent window on those terms.
It's a bit of a tricky one in another sense though, because he's obviously coming to start games and is unquestionably in direct competition with Cork and Westwood for one of 2 places, so you'd imagine one of those good servants - who we'll need beyond January - is going to have to make way (I can't see any of them playing ahead in a 3). That begs a question of how they react to that and where it leaves them - and us - if Drinkwater's deal isn't extended. That's the drawback of any loan deal for an established player coming for first team football, but it's a particular problem if he's only here till January. With a bit of luck, the truth of this is it is really a season long deal, but it's being expressed in this way to manage expectations about a break clause being exercised. But if not, we clearly need to have a few contingencies in play for January - if Hendrick doesn't sign a new deal we could also be in a position where we're thinking of cashing in with him in January too.
But we deal in the present, and on balance you'd have to say we'll spend the first half of this season with a stronger squad than the second half of last season. That's a decent window on those terms.
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Good addition and makes this transfer window ok and acceptable but nothing more.
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To sign him permanently, we'd presumably have to do a deal with him and Chelsea whereby we paid a substantial premium on the purchase price to enable Chelsea to pay off a chunk of his contract, in order that we could sign him within our wage structure. To extend the loan, we'd need Chelsea to agree it all.clarethomer wrote:What are our options for January if he’s been a success?
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Great signing, you know what....we've got a decent squad of players there.
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No matter what happens, we won’t be able to sign him permanently with the wages he’s on and 3 years left on his contract.
We don’t make it easy for ourselves do we. The club had better get planning soon to prep for his departure in January. Going to be difficult.
Until then though, we’ve got a talented player on our books who we need to get fit and into the side as soon as possible.
We don’t make it easy for ourselves do we. The club had better get planning soon to prep for his departure in January. Going to be difficult.
Until then though, we’ve got a talented player on our books who we need to get fit and into the side as soon as possible.
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Have I seriously just read that post?pushpinpussy wrote:Don't get this. we have young midfielders out on loan and in the U23's doing well and we sign a journeyman who hasn't played for 2 years.
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If fit and motivated phenomenal signing short term.
A 30m player. Still in his 20s. Played for England. And played in two consecutive title winning squads. Instrumental in one.
Wanted us to sign him in January when he was out of favour.
A 30m player. Still in his 20s. Played for England. And played in two consecutive title winning squads. Instrumental in one.
Wanted us to sign him in January when he was out of favour.
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
TV just said season long loan.
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You would think after a week with Dyche he as a manager would have a good idea of whether he will be a good fit. Would hope we would start negotiations immediately if so, to put ahead of the others come January. Make him feel loved and want to stay. I think he has another 3 years on his contract with would mean us paying an extra 9 million onto the transfer fee to make it look like we are paying him 50k a week. Allow Chelsea to pay off his contract from the additional 60k he would be owed from this. Taking this into account I think we would be looking at 20 million.claretspice wrote:To sign him permanently, we'd presumably have to do a deal with him and Chelsea whereby we paid a substantial premium on the purchase price to enable Chelsea to pay off a chunk of his contract, in order that we could sign him within our wage structure. To extend the loan, we'd need Chelsea to agree it all.
Also believe we should be tapping up Phillips this week to sign when out of contract like Taylor.
But guessing Garlick has his alarm set for 31st January on his phone with the message "transfer deadline day....need to rush a transfer through"
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With the length remaining on his contract at Chelsea, unless there’s serious interest in him in January, his Parent Club will probably extend his loan in January and look to sell him next Summer.
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Six months makes sense.
He's hardly played in the Premier League for two years and we don't really know how he'll turn out. He's not a young player that needs experience or is here to make up the numbers, but someone who on past performances can walk into the first team and move it forward. Let's hope he can.
He's hardly played in the Premier League for two years and we don't really know how he'll turn out. He's not a young player that needs experience or is here to make up the numbers, but someone who on past performances can walk into the first team and move it forward. Let's hope he can.
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You're comparing a player with someone who gets injured when they put their boots on?Cleveleys_claret wrote:He was worth 35 million 2 years ago. So you would have been happy with us signing Andy Carroll because he was a 45 million pound signing?
And it isnt 6 months it is 5 months.
If you were a manager would you replace a loyal servant if he had a few bad games with a player that wasnt going to be there in a few months time? Risking alienating an important member of the squad. Somehow I dont think Dyche will do that. This stinks of desperation, personally if Chelsea threw these terms on the table late on i would have walked away and gone with what we had.
Not saying he isnt a good player because I think he is better than all our midfield players but just think we have him here as backup.
Not even a sensible comparison really....
As for the rest of your post, why does it stink of desperation signing what pretty much the whole world can see we needed?
If we'd gone with what we had and then had some injuries you'd be on here moaning, let's be honest.
Thankfully the club doesn't do deals to keep people like you happy, they do what they see fit and thus far it's worked.
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It may be us that want the loan till January. He hasnt played in a while and will cost a lot of money. A case of having a good look before committing ourselves further.
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Good signing if fit and on it. Two premier league winners now.
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Excellent addition and a decent window in the end.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Perhaps we are hoping Defour will be fit to play by January.
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This is a great signing, even if it is a loan it’s not like the usual loans we make where they are young players whom we don’t know what they can do.
He’s an established premier league player and Dyche has worked with him before
Incidentally, who was the last “experienced” player we signed on loan?
He’s an established premier league player and Dyche has worked with him before
Incidentally, who was the last “experienced” player we signed on loan?
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Journalist has tweeted Chelsea expect him to spend the full season with us on loan.The Enclosure wrote:Perhaps we are hoping Defour will be fit to play by January.
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Journeyman maybe, and one heading toward the end of his career but in such circumstance, we haven't paid a chunky transfer fee that we won't get back (unlike Jay Rod) and as a key part of Leicester's Premiership winning season, we should have some quality.
Let's hope he can boss and control the midfield in a way that we haven't seen in the Premiership.
Far too often we have seen our defence working overtime with the ball continually coming back on us.
Let's hope he can boss and control the midfield in a way that we haven't seen in the Premiership.
Far too often we have seen our defence working overtime with the ball continually coming back on us.
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Look at the impact of Harts signing did last year regards squad harmony. We have never had so many disgruntled reports coming out of the club. And now you think a player that is only here to put himself in the shop window for 5 months will go down well.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:You're comparing a player with someone who gets injured when they put their boots on?
Not even a sensible comparison really....
As for the rest of your post, why does it stink of desperation signing what pretty much the whole world can see we needed?
If we'd gone with what we had and then had some injuries you'd be on here moaning, let's be honest.
Thankfully the club doesn't do deals to keep people like you happy, they do what they see fit and thus far it's worked.
He is a fantastic player I am not disputing that I just think Chelsea have smelt our desperation and used it to their advantage. I also think he is better than our other midfielders. It is just the effect it will have on squad harmony.
Fingers crossed though we have 21 games until he leaves. We could be safe by then and it will have been worth it
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I reckon it’s a great signing and I don’t expect to end up eating humble pie.
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I've got to say I'm relatively content with our dealings this window to be fair
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Bants. You don’t think the 6 months was our request do you?The Enclosure wrote:Perhaps we are hoping Defour will be fit to play by January.
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I read that the majority of season long loans have a january clause in them . It is normal.
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It’s not a season long loan. It’s a loan to Jan.
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Cleveleys_claret wrote:You would think after a week with Dyche he as a manager would have a good idea of whether he will be a good fit. Would hope we would start negotiations immediately if so, to put ahead of the others come January. Make him feel loved and want to stay. I think he has another 3 years on his contract with would mean us paying an extra 9 million onto the transfer fee to make it look like we are paying him 50k a week. Allow Chelsea to pay off his contract from the additional 60k he would be owed from this. Taking this into account I think we would be looking at 20 million.
Also believe we should be tapping up Phillips this week to sign when out of contract like Taylor.
But guessing Garlick has his alarm set for 31st January on his phone with the message "transfer deadline day....need to rush a transfer through"
You have come across as the most negative fan on the board today, the loan will be agreed in principle for the season but I'm pretty sure if I remember rightly there's a reason/rule they have to re-sign in Jan thats out of the clubs hands.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
We didn't have many, if any, disgruntled reports coming out of the club though about Hart and the other players, just lots of in the know comments mainly.Cleveleys_claret wrote:Look at the impact of Harts signing did last year regards squad harmony. We have never had so many disgruntled reports coming out of the club. And now you think a player that is only here to put himself in the shop window for 5 months will go down well.
He is a fantastic player I am not disputing that I just think Chelsea have smelt our desperation and used it to their advantage. I also think he is better than our other midfielders. It is just the effect it will have on squad harmony.
Fingers crossed though we have 21 games until he leaves. We could be safe by then and it will have been worth it
Plus, he's still here and could potentially be our main GK if Pope has an injury.
In fact during Dyche's tenure we've never had reports of an unhappy dressing room, again it's always people claiming to be in the know or what they're perceiving to see on the pitch.
If he does a good enough job for us in the next 5 months that he does earn a move elsewhere then great, because the club will hopefully be in a decent league position by then.
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The over reaction from some has been amazing even by our standards, Im sure Ive heard the samekaratekid wrote:I read that the majority of season long loans have a january clause in them . It is normal.
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No such rule.Burnley1989 wrote:You have come across as the most negative fan on the board today, the loan will be agreed in principle for the season but I'm pretty sure if I remember rightly there's a reason/rule they have to re-sign in Jan thats out of the clubs hands.
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Sam Wallace on Twitter:
As is standard in these deals there is a January break clause on Drinkwater loan to Burnley but, as things stand, Chelsea anticipate him spending the season at Turf Moor. He needs game time to create a market for a permanent sale.
As is standard in these deals there is a January break clause on Drinkwater loan to Burnley but, as things stand, Chelsea anticipate him spending the season at Turf Moor. He needs game time to create a market for a permanent sale.
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A good addition under the circumstances. Heading into the season with three central midfielders would have been hazardous and Drinkwater is a quality option as a short term sticking plaster.
The five month duration of the loan will allows us to try again, after failing to bring in a permanent midfield addition in this window, provide Defour with all the recovery time he needs or we could push for an extension.
If we are on the hook for his full wages of 100K it would equate to a considerable sum over the course of a full season.
Defour is scheduled to make his return at some point in the future. If we are thinking about having another go at bringing in a midfielder, during the next window, achieving that goal would mean another wage. Having six central midfielders on the payroll for the second half of the season wouldn't make much sense.
Drinkwater is a very welcome emergency fix, but I can't believe that we sat down 8 months ago and decided that what we needed in this window was a player on a five month loan. Adding him to the squad will benefit everyone over the short term, but it has only happened because our recruitment failed to satisfy our need for a permanent addition.
The five month duration of the loan will allows us to try again, after failing to bring in a permanent midfield addition in this window, provide Defour with all the recovery time he needs or we could push for an extension.
If we are on the hook for his full wages of 100K it would equate to a considerable sum over the course of a full season.
Defour is scheduled to make his return at some point in the future. If we are thinking about having another go at bringing in a midfielder, during the next window, achieving that goal would mean another wage. Having six central midfielders on the payroll for the second half of the season wouldn't make much sense.
Drinkwater is a very welcome emergency fix, but I can't believe that we sat down 8 months ago and decided that what we needed in this window was a player on a five month loan. Adding him to the squad will benefit everyone over the short term, but it has only happened because our recruitment failed to satisfy our need for a permanent addition.
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Also what is negative about saying we should be using this 5 months to try to tie him down and sign him permanently?Burnley1989 wrote:You have come across as the most negative fan on the board today, the loan will be agreed in principle for the season but I'm pretty sure if I remember rightly there's a reason/rule they have to re-sign in Jan thats out of the clubs hands.
I am not a fan of loans between teams in the same league. That is just my view. Too many clubs with all the money can hoard players and limit the market available to other clubs.
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How dare you insinuate that our recruitment team havent spent the last 12 months identifying DD as our number 1 target for a 5 month period. Scandalous suggestion!!!!Long Time Lurker wrote:A good addition under the circumstances. Heading into the season with three central midfielders would have been hazardous and Drinkwater is a quality option as a short term sticking plaster.
The five month duration of the loan will allows us to try again, after failing to bring in a permanent midfield addition in this window, provide Defour with all the recovery time he needs or we could push for an extension.
If we are on the hook for his full wages of 100K it would equate to a considerable sum over the course of a full season.
Defour is scheduled to make his return at some point in the future. If we are thinking about having another go at bringing in a midfielder, during the next window, achieving that goal would mean another wage. Having six central midfielders on the payroll for the second half of the season wouldn't make much sense.
Drinkwater is a very welcome emergency fix, but I can't believe that we sat down 8 months ago and decided that what we needed in this window was a player on a five month loan. Adding him to the squad will benefit everyone over the short term, but it has only happened because our recruitment failed to satisfy our need for a permanent addition.
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He'll be here for the season.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
That's why Fifa have been making changes to the number of players a club can send out on loan etc , they don't like clubs hoarding players either.Cleveleys_claret wrote:Also what is negative about saying we should be using this 5 months to try to tie him down and sign him permanently?
I am not a fan of loans between teams in the same league. That is just my view. Too many clubs with all the money can hoard players and limit the market available to other clubs.
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Only when dealing with Chelsea.karatekid wrote:Sam Wallace on Twitter:
As is standard in these deals there is a January break clause on Drinkwater loan to Burnley but, as things stand, Chelsea anticipate him spending the season at Turf Moor. He needs game time to create a market for a permanent sale.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier ... 1&intern=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Has all the loans listed and got halfway down and every other loan ended in May. So not really standard
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It's an absolutely phenomenal signing for us, credit where it's due !
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Some strange comments on this thread
Could we afford to sign him outright - no
Would he have wanted to come even if we had - unlikely
Is he the highest quality midfielder we've been seriously linked with in this window - yes
Is the team/squad stronger with his addition - undoubtedly
have we missed out on any of our realistic CM targets - no. We can't compete with Palace on wages and as far as I'm aware everyone else we were seriously linked with stayed put aside from Mooy - who I doubt many would rate more highly than Drinkwater
I'm not sure what people expect the club to do. The deal on offer was obviously until January - do we accept that and have a £30M plus PL winning midfielder for five months or say to Chelsea it's a season long or not at all?
He's done a pre-season with Chelsea which has included a surprising amount of 'minutes' for a player supposedly told he was surplus to requirements. No concerns about his fitness or motivation.
He won't start immediately but it won't be long. Cork's place is most under threat. For whatever reason his levels dropped last season particularly pre-Christmas. A lot of that had to do with his cumulative workload and I think he'll benefit from someone else sharing the responsibility. What's more we could play a genuine central three in a 4-5-1 and still have a CM on the bench.
Struggling to see what's not to like about this and the window as a whole - would have preferred not to lose Tom but something had to give in the goalkeeping department - that aside stronger in all three of the other units.
Could we afford to sign him outright - no
Would he have wanted to come even if we had - unlikely
Is he the highest quality midfielder we've been seriously linked with in this window - yes
Is the team/squad stronger with his addition - undoubtedly
have we missed out on any of our realistic CM targets - no. We can't compete with Palace on wages and as far as I'm aware everyone else we were seriously linked with stayed put aside from Mooy - who I doubt many would rate more highly than Drinkwater
I'm not sure what people expect the club to do. The deal on offer was obviously until January - do we accept that and have a £30M plus PL winning midfielder for five months or say to Chelsea it's a season long or not at all?
He's done a pre-season with Chelsea which has included a surprising amount of 'minutes' for a player supposedly told he was surplus to requirements. No concerns about his fitness or motivation.
He won't start immediately but it won't be long. Cork's place is most under threat. For whatever reason his levels dropped last season particularly pre-Christmas. A lot of that had to do with his cumulative workload and I think he'll benefit from someone else sharing the responsibility. What's more we could play a genuine central three in a 4-5-1 and still have a CM on the bench.
Struggling to see what's not to like about this and the window as a whole - would have preferred not to lose Tom but something had to give in the goalkeeping department - that aside stronger in all three of the other units.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Would be fantastic if it happens but considering it has been delayed twice, each time putting it back 12 months I doubt this will ever happenGodIsADeeJay81 wrote:That's why Fifa have been making changes to the number of players a club can send out on loan etc , they don't like clubs hoarding players either.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
I doubt anyone on here knows what went on behind the scenes or what proportion of his wages we have to pay, but I think it's absolutely certain that we couldn't possibly afford to sign him on a permanent basis on the wage he's currently on, so the only option was a loan deal with Chelsea funding part of his wages.
This puts the ball firmly in Chelsea's court, (and to a certain extent Drinkwater's).
It's quite possible that this is the best possible deal that either Chelsea or Drinkwater's agent were prepared to agree to, and given that it was just hours before the window closed it's not as though we could turn it down and turn our attention to another target.
It keeps all options open for Chelsea, (who don't forget are under a transfer embargo), so whilst its unlikely, they might need him back in January.
It's quite possible that they've agreed to pay a larger proportion of his wages until January, and that they will want us to pay a greater proportion if we want to keep him beyond January. I don't think our negotiating position will have been all that strong.
This puts the ball firmly in Chelsea's court, (and to a certain extent Drinkwater's).
It's quite possible that this is the best possible deal that either Chelsea or Drinkwater's agent were prepared to agree to, and given that it was just hours before the window closed it's not as though we could turn it down and turn our attention to another target.
It keeps all options open for Chelsea, (who don't forget are under a transfer embargo), so whilst its unlikely, they might need him back in January.
It's quite possible that they've agreed to pay a larger proportion of his wages until January, and that they will want us to pay a greater proportion if we want to keep him beyond January. I don't think our negotiating position will have been all that strong.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Hmmm. A loan deal until January is decent-ish.ksrclaret wrote:We don’t make it easy for ourselves do we. The club had better get planning soon to prep for his departure in January.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Chelsea never loan out a player without a fee attached. It is a business model they have. Buy players and loan them out. Obviously this wasnt the intention with DD but there is absolutely no way that they have loaned out a player without a hefty loan fee being attached to the movenil_desperandum wrote:I doubt anyone on here knows what went on behind the scenes or what proportion of his wages we have to pay, but I think it's absolutely certain that we couldn't possibly afford to sign him on a permanent basis on the wage he's currently on, so the only option was a loan deal with Chelsea funding part of his wages.
This puts the ball firmly in Chelsea's court, (and to a certain extent Drinkwater's).
It's quite possible that this is the best possible deal that either Chelsea or Drinkwater's agent were prepared to agree to, and given that it was just hours before the window closed it's not as though we could turn it down and turn our attention to another target.
It keeps all options open for Chelsea, (who don't forget are under a transfer embargo), so whilst its unlikely, they might need him back in January.
It's quite possible that they've agreed to pay a larger proportion of his wages until January, and that they will want us to pay a greater proportion if we want to keep him beyond January. I don't think our negotiating position will have been all that strong.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
"He was worth 35 million 2 years ago. So you would have been happy with us signing Andy Carroll because he was a 45 million pound signing?"
Yes, yes I would if Carroll was signed say 6 years ago because that's where the comparison becomes relevant
Yes, yes I would if Carroll was signed say 6 years ago because that's where the comparison becomes relevant
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
No he hasnt....no Chelsea loans are beyond January.FactualFrank wrote:He won't be leaving in January, he's signed a loan deal until next summer.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Aye... was told a season long loan, but now read the article. Shame.Cleveleys_claret wrote:No he hasnt....no Chelsea loans are beyond January.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
My point was more just because a player has been transferred for a large sum of money doesnt mean he will be a success. Think my point may of got lostTHEWELLERNUT70 wrote:"He was worth 35 million 2 years ago. So you would have been happy with us signing Andy Carroll because he was a 45 million pound signing?"
Yes, yes I would if Carroll was signed say 6 years ago because that's where the comparison becomes relevant