BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:58 pm

So for those people criticizing the length of the deal what do you think would have happened if we had turned it down on that basis?

We wouldn't have signed anyone else and in all probability one of Drinkwater's other admirers - Palace, West Ham or Brighton for example might well have stepped in and accepted the same terms from Chelsea.

Bearing in mind some people think letting Tom go to Villa guarantees their survival and condemns us to the drop there's every possibility DD would have ended up strengthening the midfield of another team who might well be considered relegation rivals.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:00 pm

It will probably be for 12 months, Chelsea just being understandably cautious due their embargo and also to see he gets games that will enhance his saleability.

Great signing for us, I’m sure he’ll be intergrated into the 1st team within a couple of weeks. For me in Corks place, but what great competition we’ve suddenly got UTC

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:03 pm

Great signing.. Who's his chauffeur ?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:03 pm

The signings of Drinkwater, Jayrod and Pieters for the first team have got to be seen as very positive. Just a thought though: how many of these three will be in the starting 11 on Saturday? I wonder.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:08 pm

Spijed wrote:In the year 2058 some supporter will probably be saying the same thing!

hopefully

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:08 pm

Will Dyche be willing to drop one of his favourites for a player who may only be here short term though?

Woonderbah · Post by **Woonderbah** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:09 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Great signing.. Who's his chauffeur ?

A saying not usually used in a positive sense but 'I'll drive him there myself'

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:11 pm

Vino blanco wrote:The signings of Drinkwater, Jayrod and Pieters for the first team have got to be seen as very positive. Just a thought though: how many of these three will be in the starting 11 on Saturday? I wonder.

I'll go for none of them, but all will be pushing to start and putting pressure on others to perform well and keep their place.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:13 pm

Is Wells' loan to QPR for the season or until January like Drinkwater?

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:13 pm

I think Jay will start

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:14 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:You're comparing a player with someone who gets injured when they put their boots on?
Not even a sensible comparison really....

As for the rest of your post, why does it stink of desperation signing what pretty much the whole world can see we needed?
If we'd gone with what we had and then had some injuries you'd be on here moaning, let's be honest.

Thankfully the club doesn't do deals to keep people like you happy, they do what they see fit and thus far it's worked.

Good response to a political type of post

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:14 pm

mkmel wrote:Is Wells' loan to QPR for the season or until January like Drinkwater?

Season long but almost certainly we'll have had a recall put in place for January should we wish to bring him back to sell.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:15 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Great signing.. Who's his chauffeur ?

Most likely Ashley Barnes

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:18 pm

Vino blanco wrote:The signings of Drinkwater, Jayrod and Pieters for the first team have got to be seen as very positive. Just a thought though: how many of these three will be in the starting 11 on Saturday? I wonder.

Doubt if any. You have to fight for your place at Burnley that is why we are successful

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:18 pm

Burnley007
Hes a professional footballer naturally fit
Has had a pre season with Chelsea
And has played i think 4 pre season games
People use any excuse to have a go at the club.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:18 pm

DD certainly hasn't rocked up to be getting splinters in his arse. We're obviously forking out a large wedge for his services.

He'll be playing asap.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Season long but almost certainly we'll have had a recall put in place for January should we wish to bring him back to sell.

So is this different from Drinkwaters loan?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:21 pm

mkmel wrote:So is this different from Drinkwaters loan?

Yes, one is from Chelsea to Burnley and the other from Burnley to QPR.

And being sensible, yes, one is until January and the other is for the season.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:33 pm

Blyclaret wrote:Burnley007
Hes a professional footballer naturally fit
Has had a pre season with Chelsea
And has played i think 4 pre season games
People use any excuse to have a go at the club.

In the Dyche interview regards the transfer he has just stated that DD:

Has only played 30 mins in the last 2 years (take it he is referring to the prem)
Not had a proper pre season
A while off being at the fitness required

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:36 pm

Wasn't this move leaked by Nixon ...sorry cricketfield and the post removed Last night ??

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:39 pm

In Drinkwaters interview he said he had a preseason and played in preseason games

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:39 pm

Vino blanco wrote:The signings of Drinkwater, Jayrod and Pieters for the first team have got to be seen as very positive. Just a thought though: how many of these three will be in the starting 11 on Saturday? I wonder.

None.

Be VERY surprised if any started. Don’t see DD even making the bench. Jay most likely starter but I think it will be a case of “we go again”.

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:01 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Will Dyche be willing to drop one of his favourites for a player who may only be here short term though?

Once ready to play Drinkwater must be in our starting XI, it's as simple as that. No room for sentiment. Same goes for Defour. They are different gravy

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:06 pm

Excellent signing. Seen that Chelsea want him out for the season so I am sure we have first option on extending the loan/buying him.

Hopefully he gets up to speed quickly as I cannot wait to see him and Westwood in the middle.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:12 pm

Hope that he does the business then come January we stump up the cash to make it permanent.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:15 pm

Imagine if we started with

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

would still give us the following to select from

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Vydra Rodriguez

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:15 pm

My family are Leicester City season ticket holders, and I have had access to these tickets from time to time. I saw Danny play a number of times including the year they won the Prem. If he is 85% as good as that year we have a real player on our hands. He is very tenacious and competitive and was brilliant going forward and pressing in the final third. Can see him and Westwood being some partnership

Like Joey, it sounds like SD played a major part in persuading him. Its frightening so much hinges on Sean when we presumably have other staff that should be "selling the club" to new incomings

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:18 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:Don't get this. we have young midfielders out on loan and in the U23's doing well and we sign a journeyman who hasn't played for 2 years.

He's here to tap into our anti Football style of Play....of that I'm sure.nothing more nothing Less.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:22 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Imagine if we started with

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

would still give us the following to select from

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Vydra Rodriguez

Great time to be a Burnley fan. 15 full internationals there by my reckoning.

Really looking forward to this season.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:28 pm

Vino blanco wrote:The signings of Drinkwater, Jayrod and Pieters for the first team have got to be seen as very positive. Just a thought though: how many of these three will be in the starting 11 on Saturday? I wonder.

Probably none !

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:31 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Probably none !

Jay got quite a few minutes in pre season i would imagine he has a very good chance of starting alongside wood

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:44 pm

Should be a very good signing, and it will be excellent if we do end up with him for the full season, and slightly disappointing if it's all over come January.

He's an improvement on Cork and Westwood, and he'll move the ball faster whether it's short and sideways, diagonal, or direct to the striker like he did with Vardy. We haven't a striker with the outright pace of Vardy, but Wood and Barnes already look to peel into the channels, and that extra bit of quality might turn the balls from ones to hold up to ones to carry and advance with. Both Wood and Barnes can catch a shot sweet in such situations, and Jay perhaps better than either.

He's not afraid of hard work, and our style means that his lack of outright pace won't be an issue like it could in some stretched 442s.

Look forward to seeing him in action

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Jay got quite a few minutes in pre season i would imagine he has a very good chance of starting alongside wood

Maybe yes

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Imagine if we started with

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

would still give us the following to select from

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Vydra Rodriguez

Really does make you realise how much we have strengthened the quality of the squad over the past few seasons. People criticise our recruitment, and rightly so at times, but this goes to show how well we have done without breaking the bank or setting
pulses racing. This has got to be the strongest Burnley squad to start a season in donkey’s years.

Unfortunately too many people see the transfer window as a form of entertainment, they’ve fallen for the Sky hype. The transfer window isn’t supposed to be exciting or entertaining, that’s what the following 10 months are for.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:09 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Only when dealing with Chelsea.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier ... 1&intern=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Has all the loans listed and got halfway down and every other loan ended in May. So not really standard

None of Chelsea's outgoing loan deals have an end date on them - and I think the PL has altered it's loan rules for deals between any 2 clubs in the division

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:10 pm

I think people want the big signing: someone who would immediately slot into the starting XI.
Slow, incremental signings don't bring much excitement, but our depth is amazing.
We are collectively greater than the sum of our individual players and I look forward to this upcoming season.

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:10 pm

Sneaked him into my fantasy team an hour before he signed for 4.5 mill despite already having 3 Burnley players. Gets around the 3 players from one club rule unless I wish to make another transfer. I understand this isn’t necessarily a good thing.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:23 pm

bfcmik wrote:None of Chelsea's outgoing loan deals have an end date on them - and I think the PL has altered it's loan rules for deals between any 2 clubs in the division

Been no change of rules. Loans have to start and end in a transfer window so all loans will come to and in January or at the end of May. Sometimes season long loan deals will include a right to recall as happened when Chelsea recalled Bamford in Jan 2017 to enable them to sell him to Middlesbrough.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:24 pm

Has anyone ever played the Danny Drinkwater drinking game? When he’s playing in a televised game, every time the commentator says his name you have to neck a pint of water. The last one to die from water intoxication wins.

Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:26 pm

For me, the DD signing has put a whole new positive slant on the Big Kick-Off. He will be here for a minimum half a season, I expect him to be starting games, and I think he brings a real creative spark. Combined with keeping hold of Tarka, and having Dwight here to continue to develop for another few months at least, and Pope apparently fit again to be first choice between the sticks, I'm now approaching the season with an optimistic view rather than the little bit of worry I was feeling just a week ago. JayRod gives us some attacking options, and Pieters is a solid player to have around.
Freshened things up a bit while still having our solid core.
Got the new season butterflies building for Saturday even though I will just be watching it on a screen...

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:28 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Has anyone ever played the Danny Drinkwater drinking game? When he’s playing in a televised game, every time the commentator says his name you have to neck a pint of water. The last one to die from water intoxication wins.

Ha ha - he won me my first point in my Watford v Burnley match report in 2010/11 after jdrobbo had challenged me to get as many Elton John titles as I could into the report.

It was good of DANIEL Drinkwater to miss that first minute chance.

This was the miss that prompted IanMcL to give Lee Grant 5 in the player ratings because he said he should have saved Drinkwater’s shot. The shot went wide and out for a goal kick.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:35 pm

burnley007 wrote:What an utterly bizarre signing.
I'm sorry, but am I missing something here?
We've got him for half a season?? I'm struggling to see the value here.
We've been utterly conned. Again.
What a shambles

What an utterly bizarre post. I wasn’t initially keen when mentioned due to him not playing much. There is no doubt that there is a quality player here though and this ticks boxes on so many levels. We needed to strengthen midfield and competition in this area. We have. We needed quality. We’ve got it. I’m satisfied. Now.let the coaching team do their magic.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:37 am

jrgbfc wrote:Will Dyche be willing to drop one of his favourites for a player who may only be here short term though?

Dyche has signed him

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:38 am

ClaretTony wrote: This was the miss that prompted IanMcL to give Lee Grant 5 in the player ratings because he said he should have saved Drinkwater’s shot. The shot went wide and out for a goal kick.

That's because IanMcL hasn't got a Scooby about football... as his inane comments on here frequently show.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:37 am

ClaretTony wrote:Imagine if we started with

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

would still give us the following to select from

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Vydra Rodriguez

Good grief there's some real talent there isn't there?

It's such an amazing time to be a Burnley fan.

We must all be in some sort of collective dream. I can remember being the only Burnley fan in my West Midlands school and being teased by my Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry supporting mates about how awful we were.

I think we've got a squad that can really push on and do well if they all play together, with spirit and discipline.

Thank the Lord for Sean Dyche - these are the new Glory Years.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:39 am

ClaretTony wrote:This was the miss that prompted IanMcL to give Lee Grant 5 in the player ratings because he said he should have saved Drinkwater’s shot. The shot went wide and out for a goal kick.

Yes but to be fair, Grant was probably flapping uselessly in the general direction of the shot, no matter how wide it actually may have been.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:50 am

ClaretTony wrote:Imagine if we started with

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

would still give us the following to select from

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Vydra Rodriguez

Strongest squad in my lifetime by some distance, I think this window has been very very good for us

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:07 am

Vegas Claret wrote:Strongest squad in my lifetime by some distance, I think this window has been very very good for us

it is a strong squad but to say this window has been good for us is totally wrong. we have signed 3 players from the championship and a guy who hasnt played for 2 years nearly.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:12 am

What were you expecting

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:27 am

pushpinpussy wrote:it is a strong squad but to say this window has been good for us is totally wrong. we have signed 3 players from the championship and a guy who hasnt played for 2 years nearly.

We've signed four players who are all internationals and three of them have extensive Premier League experience while the fourth is a young goalkeeper who will currently be third choice. Despite speculation, not one player has left us who we didn't want to leave. I'd suggest the window has been far better than good.