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Hendrick

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:32 am

A lot of paper talk about Sheffield Utd after him in January.

They must be getting vibes that he is ready to talk to them for a cut price fee - he must not be willing to sign a new contract by the looks of it - or have we even offered him one ?

As you all know im not his biggest fan but just wanted to hear other peoples views.

I think we do need better if possible.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:33 am

I would like jeff to stay

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Re: Hendrick

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:34 am

Im same.

Some people rate him massively. I think hes average at best

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Re: Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:36 am

theroyaldyche wrote:Im same.

Some people rate him massively. I think hes average at best
we'll have offered him a new contract. If we wanted rid, we wouldn't have exercised the 1 year option to extend.

It'd cost him £20 million plus in this market to replace him, so I think it's crucial we extend his contact and keep him for another 2/3 years.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 am

As a versatile 4th choice midfielder who can offer cover on the right of a 4-4-2 or at the front of a 4-5-1 I think he perfect and about the quality we should expect for this level of backup.

If he wont sign a contract and we can get cash in Jan rather then nothing in the summer then providing we have at least 3 fit centre midfield players for me its a no brainer to take the cash

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Re: Hendrick

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 am

Hendrick isn’t a great player, but he’s a great squad man. He covers various positions (to varying levels of success) and that is in itself indispensable.

We should definitely be trying to keep him.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:42 am

With Drinkwater only here (for sure) until January, that could mean us having just Cork and Westwood (and an injured Defour no doubt), so something will need to happen.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:46 am

I like Jeff , he’s all about effort and commitment ,but ultimately he’s just short of prem level. I think he needs another environment to thrive in .

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:52 am

A lot might come down to Hendrick himself. Is he happy as a squad man? As a jack of all trades who's asked to fill in anywhere but the position he grew up playing, and probably considers his favoured position?

If he wants to be playing in the centre of midfield, he'll have seen our attempts to strengthen there and rightly concluded that Dyche doesn't see him playing there for us. On that basis, maybe we will offer him a new deal, but maybe he won't be keen to sign it.

Of course, Hendrick may well be very happy as a squad man, and see being part of a PL team to be more important than seeking more elsewhere.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by BigChaCha » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:15 pm

At 27 years of age, he will peak over the next 3 years and we could easily see a 20% to 30% improvement. Playing him in his best position would see us having to change the formation which I can't see SD doing but he's an important part of the squad and I'd love to see him stay.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:19 pm

I'd love to keep him but he will only ever be a squad player for us and he must know that by now.
He should be looking to play every week, as should Kevin Long, but I hope they don't.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:36 pm

Proper reasoned discussion, good to see.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by houseboy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:38 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:A lot of paper talk about Sheffield Utd after him in January.

They must be getting vibes that he is ready to talk to them for a cut price fee - he must not be willing to sign a new contract by the looks of it - or have we even offered him one ?

As you all know im not his biggest fan but just wanted to hear other peoples views.

I think we do need better if possible.
My view is you don't like him, you want rid and you want to start totally unfounded rumors early before the January window. Get a grip and stop reading things that aren't on the paper. He's going nowhere at least until January and then probably not because he is A) a decent player for us and B) Dyche loves him.

Tell me, were you disappointed that Tarks didn't go?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:41 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Proper reasoned discussion, good to see.
Looks like you jinxed it. You were spot on until post #13.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by paulatky » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:42 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Proper reasoned discussion, good to see.
Its early days yet

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Re: Hendrick

Post by BOYSIE31 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:42 pm

houseboy wrote:My view is you don't like him, you want rid and you want to start totally unfounded rumors early before the January window. Get a grip and stop reading things that aren't on the paper. He's going nowhere at least until January and then probably not because he is A) a decent player for us and B) Dyche loves him.

Tell me, were you disappointed that Tarks didn't go?


Was in the papers yesterday actually ?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by taffy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:45 pm

I like Jeff, much underrated by some but if he wants to go then he needs replacing and that's when it gets expensive

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Murger » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:48 pm

He's a jack of all trades, master of none type player. If he doesn't mind being a squad player, keep him.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:49 pm

Link

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/12/d ... in-januar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's HITC and it's from the Sun, but it's a link all the same.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretLoup » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:53 pm

Just to correct the suggestion/impression that Jeff is a "squad player" . He is a couple short of 100 Premier League appearances for Burnley.
He usually makes around 30 starts per season. He played in pretty much every game during the good spell from Boxing Day last season.

Whether you rate or not is another matter, plainly Dyche does.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:05 pm

When you operate like we do on tight budgets he is a perfect fit for us. Can play multiple roles meaning we dont need the same amount of back up across all positions knowing he can slot in.

I do think though that he will want away. He will want to play in what he believes to be his best position and be first choice for that shirt. Whereas with us he is always just covering a role.

Would love him to stay but if we can get him shipped off to Sheff Utd early enough in Jan then he can tell them he is a lil lonely and persuade them to take Brady off our hands too. Tell them how they are the perfect fit and ideal for each others games. That would be the only plus in losing him. If he takes Brady with him

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Winstonswhite » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:11 pm

If Dyche rated him he’d play him in his natural position and he wouldn’t have let his contract run down to six months.

The problem is JBG is injury prone, so it’s a big risk letting him go because we have no alternative.

I’d keep him until the end of the season rather than flog him for 5 million and have no cover.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:18 pm

We all have different opinions but I’ve never understood the negativity towards Hendrick.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:24 pm

I agree he is a fantastic player but his biggest fault is his adaptability. If he was one dimensial like many players we have had SD he would have been given a role and carried it out and SD would have been happy and likewise the fans. But because he can move here there and everywhere he is expected to be able to do on the right what he can do in the middle and vice versa where in a SD side each role has specific instructions and SD doesnt want players straying too much from that roles duties.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Spike » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:29 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:A lot of paper talk about Sheffield Utd after him in January.

They must be getting vibes that he is ready to talk to them for a cut price fee - he must not be willing to sign a new contract by the looks of it - or have we even offered him one ?

As you all know im not his biggest fan but just wanted to hear other peoples views.

I think we do need better if possible.
after the recent Window full of rubbish stories why would we believe this one

He can do better than Sheff utd -he can sign for us!

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Re: Hendrick

Post by AndyClaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:12 pm

I would keep him, but does he want to be first choice elsewhere ?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by houseboy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:17 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Was in the papers yesterday actually ?
So it's in the papers less than 3 days after the window closes. Hendrick is going nowhere just like Tarks was going nowhere even though it seemed half the people on here had sold him to Leicester without any offer being made. I swear many of our fans aren't happy unless there is a rumor about someone leaving (usually someone who the particular fan doesn't like - it's called wish-listing), it's the same with Hart, during the window he was 'connected' with just about every club in existence (and even some that don't exist). We need to keep EVERY player we have - we don't have a 'squad' like Chelsea.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Down_Rover » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:21 pm

I would like him to stay.. but if his wage demands are too high then he has to be let go

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Re: Hendrick

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:10 pm

As others have pointed out, Hendrick may not want to stay and be a squad man, or he may feel Dyche has messed him about we just don't know. I think he's been a bit hard done by, his first season he showed some promise in centre mid and he's barely had the chance to play there since.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:14 pm

If he reads the majority of negative things said about him on this messageboard (not just this post) then no surprise he wants to go

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Re: Hendrick

Post by MACCA » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:14 pm

I'm not his biggest fan, but recognise he has played very well out wide, and contributed when called upon ladt season.

I do think he is worth a new deal, but suppose it all depends whether he can find a better offer elsewhere and/or more regular first team football in his preferred position.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Dyche/Club will decide his value I would imagine, the same as they did with Vokes and Heaton. He's a decent PL player imho but absolutely replaceable should we lose him, the cost of doing that might be prohibitive though

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Belgianclaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Valuable squad member and most effective on the right. Worth his 10M but certainly no 20 M, let's not get carried away ;)

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Re: Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:12 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:Valuable squad member and most effective on the right. Worth his 10M but certainly no 20 M, let's not get carried away ;)
You let me know where we can get a 6 foot tall midfielder, who can play pretty much any role across a midfield 4 or 5, and has played 100+ premier league games and is only 27, for less than 20 million in the current market.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We all have different opinions but I’ve never understood the negativity towards Hendrick.
He's the current 'David Jones' that's all.

When's he's gone they'll find someone else to complain about and completely fail to understand what they bring to the team.
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Re: Hendrick

Post by Blackrod » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:22 pm

jojomk1 wrote:If he reads the majority of negative things said about him on this messageboard (not just this post) then no surprise he wants to go
I’d be upset too if I was on 40 K per week and a few fans didn’t rate me. I wouldnt put up with it and would be off sharpish. it will be about playing and nothing else. For the record I’m not a big fan.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by dougcollins » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:23 pm

Hendrick's going nowhere.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:24 pm

Blackrod wrote:For the record I’m not a big fan.
Now that's a surprise!

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Re: Hendrick

Post by EarbyClaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:24 pm

He's in integral part of this team/squad primarily because he's equally effective in two quite specialist positions - which is unusual in itself.

Given the number of starts he's made it's obvious Dyche rates him. His role in our recovery post Christmas seems to have gone very much under the radar with all the attention focused on Heaton and McNeil.

There would be a good number of PL clubs massively interested if he became available. Amazing that so many people seem so blase about him leaving given that according to some Heaton's move to Villa guaranteed their survival and condemned us to certain relegation.

Realistically, who would people replace him with and how much do they think a similarly equipped player might cost?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Kitch1966 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:30 pm

Usual topic on here. We are evolving all the time but please try and be realistic. Hendrick is a better player than a lot give credit, he would cost a fair bit to replace, and secondly replace him with whom ? Give some names or comparisons to fill the void of versatility ?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:30 pm

Don't be surprised if they don't have recommendations for a replacement and costings.

They'll trot out the party line about it not being their job to replace him adequately.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:41 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Don't be surprised if they don't have recommendations for a replacement and costings.

They'll trot out the party line about it not being their job to replace him adequately.
You changed teams from Liverpool to Burnley when Burnley got promoted (your words not mine) but you think your view is more important on here than that of a real Burnley fan?
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Re: Hendrick

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:46 pm

Personally would have him ahead of Cork on both age and ability.

The only problem is he often shows glimpses of what hes capable of but too incosistently.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by CFS » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:52 pm

Benson to replace him by showing his class in games after we get to 40 points.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:59 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:A lot of paper talk about Sheffield Utd after him in January...
With Sheffield United highly likely to be firmly esconced in the bottom three by then, how attractive to GH would a move to Bramall Lane look come January?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:You changed teams from Liverpool to Burnley when Burnley got promoted (your words not mine) but you think your view is more important on here than that of a real Burnley fan?
Interestingly I'm more aware of how Burnley do their business, I see the what players like Jones and Hendrick bring to a team, I don't throw a massive tantrum for pretty much a whole seaaon when the club loses most of the away games that I didn't attend and nor do I snipe at the club with every opportunity despite the fact you look clueless when you do it.

If that is what makes a real fan then you're welcome to the label, because quite frankly you're an idiot.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:44 pm

Murger wrote:He's a jack of all trades, master of none type player. If he doesn't mind being a squad player, keep him.
Genuine question, better or worse than Arfield?

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Re: Hendrick

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:51 pm

I going to go all ABC here.
I’ve seen him covering for RB, on many occasions, and he has really fast feet for tackling. He regularly comes away with the ball when fronted up by decent wingers. I’d suggest he could even play there if called upon.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:08 pm

We always have this with the grafting midfielders. The ones that just keep their heads down and work. Fortunately SD has sense to realise you can never have too many in your squad.

Hendrick is more than capable of fitting SD’s fans for another three year deal here.

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Re: Hendrick

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:12 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Genuine question, better or worse than Arfield?
I’d have Arfield over Hendrick even though I think Hendrick has more tools he just lacks any kind of consistency.

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