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England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:03 pm

I'm afraid there's not much to report,but i thought i'd start the thread anyway.

No play before lunch,and little prospect of play after lunch :(

England haven't even named their side yet,and the toss has also been delayed.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Bosscat » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:05 pm

tiger76 wrote:I'm afraid there's not much to report,but i thought i'd start the thread anyway.

No play before lunch,and little prospect of play after lunch :(

England haven't even named their side yet,and the toss has also been delayed.
So just like the 1st test England don't give a toss
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:05 pm

Improvement on the last test. Baby steps.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:06 pm

Bloody English weather. I was planning to drive up to Northampton this evening for the T20 game v Lancashire. No chance of play there as it is forecast to rain until 8pm this evening :(

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by box_of_frogs » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:56 pm

Had 'Plan A' (win at Edgbaston as we always do) worked, then it wouldn't matter!

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Local cricketer » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:07 pm

Just enough time to get the ground ready before the next band arrives

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:22 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Had 'Plan A' (win at Edgbaston as we always do) worked, then it wouldn't matter!
Yes we could have done with this weather on day 5 at Edgbaston,i suppose if they trundles to a draw,England won't be too disheartened,the Aussies record at Lords is strong,and the next 2 tests are in the North,Headingley and OT,of course it never rains in those parts. :lol:

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:26 pm

Second inspection due soon. At the moment it’s rewatching the Ashes in the 80’s!

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Bosscat » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:40 pm

tiger76 wrote:Yes we could have done with this weather on day 5 at Edgbaston,i suppose if they trundles to a draw,England won't be too disheartened,the Aussies record at Lords is strong,and the next 2 tests are in the North,Headingley and OT,of course it never rains in those parts. :lol:
The only team who's reputation lately at Lords is **** is England :lol: :lol: :lol:.

My Brother sums it up ..... when England go on Tour, the home teams ground staff make a wicket to favour the home team (in theory) whereas our ground staff go out of their way to make a Wicket that favours the opposition :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:43 pm

Play due to start at 3.30. Unless it rains again, of course.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:49 pm

Bosscat wrote:The only team who's reputation lately at Lords is **** is England :lol: :lol: :lol:.

My Brother sums it up ..... when England go on Tour, the home teams ground staff make a wicket to favour the home team (in theory) whereas our ground staff go out of their way to make a Wicket that favours the opposition :lol: :lol: :lol:
The phrase "A bad workman blames his tools" springs to mind!
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:10 pm

Toss was due at 3pm,but the rain's returned,and the covers are back on,looks like a washout given the forecast for the rest of the afternoon. :(

Thursday and Friday sound much more promising,so however wins the eventual toss has to bat 1st i'd have thought,bad news for England is this pitch looks like another spinning wicket,why on earth you'd produce 2 spinning tops on the bounce when the Aussies possess the threat of Nathan Lyon goodness knows. :?

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Bosscat » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:09 am

Jason Roy what a tit

3rd ball edge to keeper :(

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:11 am

Bosscat wrote:Jason Roy what a tit

3rd ball edge to keeper :(
We've got our first run though since :D
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by CleggHall » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:17 am

Strauss and Cook watch on, get yer pads on lads! :D

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:18 am

We are still ahead of where we were start of the 1st test.

We started with 10 (and let Moeen stand on the grass) then went down to 9 players after a few overs, we still have 10 left to contribute... hopefully

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:32 am

Beginning to wonder whether winning the one day world cup is actually a good thing for the English game as you get the feeling that we've completely neglected test match cricket as a result.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:35 am

Good to see all the red at Lord's today. You can't expect the Aussies to ditch the baggy green but they've joined in with the red numbers.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:37 am

Spijed wrote:Beginning to wonder whether winning the one day world cup is actually a good thing for the English game as you get the feeling that we've completely neglected test match cricket as a result.

Did you think we neglected test match cricket when they were 120 ish for 8 ?

You can have bad days or a bad test without people neglecting their sport.
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:45 am

Root gone for 14

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:46 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Did you think we neglected test match cricket when they were 120 ish for 8 ?

You can have bad days or a bad test without people neglecting their sport.
As much as I agree with that, I think there is a bigger difference in batting than bowling between test and ODI cricket.

And you can’t deny that we don’t have enough batsmen who can apply themselves to test match cricket.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:Good to see all the red at Lord's today. You can't expect the Aussies to ditch the baggy green but they've joined in with the red numbers.
Good to see. Reciprocating the support given to Glenn McGrath.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:52 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:As much as I agree with that, I think there is a bigger difference in batting than bowling between test and ODI cricket.

And you can’t deny that we don’t have enough batsmen who can apply themselves to test match cricket.

Totally agree, but not having enough patience or having the right mindset as well as not being good enough isn't the same as neglect.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:00 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Totally agree, but not having enough patience or having the right mindset as well as not being good enough isn't the same as neglect.
Don't think anything has been neglected

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Longside4evr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:03 pm

not looking good again but in all probability it will end in a draw with the weather bound to effect it

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:06 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Totally agree, but not having enough patience or having the right mindset as well as not being good enough isn't the same as neglect.
True enough.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by claretblue » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't think anything has been neglected
practice...maybe :?

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:03 pm

Good partnership from Burns and Denly 91-2 now,looking much healthier,strange the Aussies opted to bowl first.

Cummins and Hazlewood are getting plenty of bounce on this wicket,that bodes well for Jofra,once England come to bowl.

That dropping of Rory Burns is growing costly for Australia.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:05 pm

Bugger Denly gone for 30 92-3.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:07 pm

Denly isn’t good enough so is lucky to even be playing but there was nothing he could have done about that ball from hazlewood, it was a ripsnorter

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:28 pm

I find it incredible that Buttler is coming in at 5 in a test match
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Masham Ale » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:31 pm

tiger76 wrote:....strange the Aussies opted to bowl first.
perhaps their best chance of bowling us out twice and potentially winning in a 4 day weather interrupted test?

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:53 pm

136/5 - Buttler gone

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:00 pm

Problem is we have no batsmen better than Denly Buttler and Roy.
Unless we bring back more failures like Vince,Mallan ,Lythe and Ballance
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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:07 pm

138/6 - Stokes out

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Stokes gone now

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by MACCA » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:13 pm

Embarrassing

It was a test we couldn't really win batting first, I cannot believe we have got in a position where we should probably lose.

Our batting line up seems to show a sheer lack of quality mixed with stupidity right through it

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't think anything has been neglected
You don't think bringing in a one day specialist as coach like Bayliss has had an effect? I get the impression everything we've done the last few years has been with the World Cup in mind.
I was reading an article somewhere about how the Aussies have really focused on this Ashes series, encouraging their players to come and play county cricket etc. A lot of our lads have barely played any red ball stuff all sumner.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:51 pm

Bairstow and Woakes recovering the score somewhat,if England could get 300 at least it would give Archer and co something to bowl with.

Another excellent knock by Burns,he is developing into a decent test opener now,as for Roy that experiment's clearly failed,haven't a clue who could replace though,and that's the problem England have.

210-6 with still 30+ overs due today,if England are still batting at the close of play,they would consider that relatives success.

I don't think Chris Woakes knew where that 6 was going at all :lol:

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Goobs » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:58 pm

Woakes out. No way the umpire knew he had touched that. Both he and the Aussies very lucky there even if it was the right decision.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:02 pm

Nasser Hussein called the dismissal after he had been hit on the head. Basically saying he will try and paddle sweep the ball down on the leg side, which brings caught off the glove into play. Good call.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:03 pm

Not paddle sweep, paddle hook.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:14 pm

How come Cummins was allowed to bowl a full over of bouncers at Woakes? I know the spirit of the game means nothing to the Australians but surely the limit is still two an over???

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:16 pm

He just keeps going. Absolutely peppering Archer (which might not be the brightest idea).

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:22 pm

230/8 - Archer out for 12

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Cubanclaret » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:46 pm

Foulthrow wrote:How come Cummins was allowed to bowl a full over of bouncers at Woakes? I know the spirit of the game means nothing to the Australians but surely the limit is still two an over???
Doesnt the limit only apply to limited overs cricket?

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:52 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Doesnt the limit only apply to limited overs cricket?
One per over in ODIs and two per over in Tests, I think.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by MACCA » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:53 pm

258 all out

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:59 pm

Let’s see how Jofra does. I can’t see their being any middle ground with him; think he’ll either give them a torrid time or will go for plenty.

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Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Post by LeadBelly » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:04 pm

258 seems at least 50 light, even after being put in. A couple of wickets this evening would even things up a bit though. Then have another crack in the morning

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