Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

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Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:01 pm

Injunctions against 11 preventing them trading or loitering near Stamford Bridge on match days, one of the 11 jailed for 6 months and they have to jointly pay Chelsea's costs of £170,000.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by Stproc » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:09 pm

Good

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Post by KellyClaret » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:... one of the 11 jailed for 6 months...
Not for ticket touting but contempt of court.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:21 pm

It's a good job that Chelsea don't do anything underhand or illegal !!!!!

Not that it makes touts a good thing.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:22 pm

KellyClaret wrote:Not for ticket touting but contempt of court.
Was it, didn't explain that in the report I read and I wondered why one of them had been sent down and not the others.

Must say, the pestering you get walking down the road to Stamford Bridge to either buy or sell tickets is worse than anywhere else.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Was it, didn't explain that in the report I read and I wondered why one of them had been sent down and not the others.

Must say, the pestering you get walking down the road to Stamford Bridge to either buy or sell tickets is worse than anywhere else.
Arsenal is the one that stands out for me. Coming from Finsbury Park as you turn right towards Arsenal tube there always seem to be loads of them walking up and down trying to buy or sell tickets.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:Arsenal is the one that stands out for me. Coming from Finsbury Park as you turn right towards Arsenal tube there always seem to be loads of them walking up and down trying to buy or sell tickets.
We usually get off at Arsenal so probably miss them but I've certainly seen enough around Arsenal too.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:25 pm

This country should just do what the US does and legalise ticket touting.
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Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:This country should just do what the US does and legalise ticket touting.
Which means all those people who can buy tickets in bulk online will sell at extortionate prices.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:38 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:This country should just do what the US does and legalise ticket touting.
:lol:

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:11 pm

Last years away game had fans all around me mainly Germans who had all bought tickets from" nice men " outside
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Post by Stproc » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:25 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:This country should just do what the US does and legalise ticket touting.
What a great idea, let’s all pay more for our tickets :?

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:44 pm

Spijed wrote:Which means all those people who can buy tickets in bulk online will sell at extortionate prices.
https://seatgeek.com/tba/articles/ticket-resale-laws/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The internet is a wonderful thing if used correctly.

Some states cap the amount that can be added to the face value of the ticket, some states require touts to pay taxes etc.
Of course not all US states are the same with their laws but there are some good ones.

So if done correctly touting can be legal, still leaving tickets affordable etc.
Naturally it's the UK and the two main parties would completely to fail to get a handle on this...

They also allow fans to sell their season tickets to perfectly legally on certain websites etc.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by Belial » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:51 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:This country should just do what the US does and legalise ticket touting.
What's wrong with just allowing genuine customers to buy them in the first place (and not touts for resale)?
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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:22 pm

Belial wrote:What's wrong with just allowing genuine customers to buy them in the first place (and not touts for resale)?
Not everyone can attend every game they get a ticket for, things can change at short notice.
People should be able to sell their ticket on if needs be, BUT (this is the important part) I don't think touts should be allowed to ramp the tickets up to extortionate prices.

I have family in the US and when we went over a few years ago they purchased someone's season tickets, and car parking spot, for one NHL game so we could watch Minnesota Wild.
There wasn't a big increase in the cost of the ticket, my family didn't feel ripped off and it results in less empty seats at a game.
Even outside the stadium touts were legally buying and selling tickets with a minimal price increase.

It can work if done correctly.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by claretblue » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:01 pm

pssst!

...I've got a dozen Sunderland tickets going for £20 a pop! ;)

8-)

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:50 pm

Many years ago I attended the Aussie Rules 'Grand Final' at the MCG and as we neared the entrance we were approached by a couple of guys offering to buy any spare tickets or sell us some scalped ones - something we've no doubt all seen & experienced? As we passed by a couple of other chaps enquired about tickets for sale and the touts eagerly offered their wares, a moment later about 6-8 other guys grabbed the two scalpers from behind (not 'violent', but solidly 'restrained') took the tickets off them, totaled their 'face value' and handed the touts that amount in cash, before immediately selling the tickets themselves at 'face value' to anyone who wanted/needed one.
Besides ourselves, the whole incident was witnessed by a couple of Policeman, to whom the scalpers immediately appealed about having their tickets 'stolen', to which the broadly grinning policeman replied that: Yes he'd seen what happened and as they were clearly 'offering the tickets for sale' and they'd seen them being paid the full face value of said tickets too. And no, he didn't think their manhandling constituted an assault but as it was (and perhaps still is) an offence to sell tickets for more than their face value in Australia, the only 'offence' they could perhaps see was that perhaps they were admitting to the offence of trying to sell them for more.
We heard later that there'd been several groups of these ticket vigilantes around the stadium that day doing the same thing.

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by tim_noone » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:02 pm

Belial wrote:What's wrong with just allowing genuine customers to buy them in the first place (and not touts for resale)?
Because if you haven't got ten thousand points only the "privileged" get them!

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Re: Chelsea take legal action against ticket touts

Post by dsr » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:22 am

tim_noone wrote:Because if you haven't got ten thousand points only the "privileged" get them!
Selling tickets only to those with 10,000 points may not be an ideal system. But you don't improve it by selling tickets only to those with the most money regardless of loyalty.

The big issue with touts is that they're taking profits off the club. Sports bodies that regularly sell out could easily institute a system where the tickets go to the highest bidders and only the rich get them; all profits go to the club. Instead, they sell tickets for less than they could get on the open market do that the less well off supporter gets a fairer crack. It isn't fair on the club that the touts get the profit and the rich still get the ticket.

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