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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:33 pm

Damo wrote:He thought it was funny when this all started with throwing milkshakes at pensioners.
Ah yes, that "War Hero".

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:34 pm

Right_winger wrote:First of all no one deserves to be kicked in the head for having a differing political view.

I do have some issues with how it has been reported though, Owen Jones strongly believes that the attackers were right wing thugs? What makes him so sure? Either something else has gone on previously or he’s being opportunistic trying to tarnish people who he see’s as his opponents.
I think the bit where he says they kicked him in the head tarnishes them much more than describing them as right-wing, but i'm not opposed to your suggesting that being described as right-wing is awful.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:37 pm

Stayingup wrote:What a strange and stupid comment. Maybe because he's such an annoying motor mouth at times.
so it's his own fault?

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:37 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Musings, eh?

You come across as a right-wing whackjob of the highest order.

Sad.
That's because you're thick.

PS: This time I think you want two words; "wack job".

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:44 pm

thatdberight wrote:That's because you're thick.

PS: This time I think you want two words; "wack job".
And you're unhinged.

Apologies for trusting the predictive text on my mobile! :roll:

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:46 pm

fidelcastro wrote:And you're unhinged.

Apologies for trusting the predictive text on my mobile! :roll:
Given your lack of discernment or coherent line of thought, I'll take the insult, however unfounded it is on what I've actually posted rather than what you imagined, as a compliment.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:46 pm

What a depressing read.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:What a depressing read.
Agreed.

I'd have thought that kicking a journalist in the head was unacceptable, whatever side of the fence you are on politically, but apparently not.

It must be my lack of discernment ;)

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:54 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Agreed.

I'd have thought that kicking a journalist in the head was unacceptable, whatever side of the fence you are on politically, but apparently not.

It must be my lack of discernment ;)
It's acceptable to a number of posters, albeit different targets for different views.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:57 pm

thatdberight wrote:It's acceptable to a number of posters, albeit different targets for different views.
yeah, interesting that they appear to be in favour of some physical assaults, but not others.

My lack of discernment is showing again.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:00 am

fidelcastro wrote:yeah, interesting that they appear to be in favour of some physical assaults, but not others.

My lack of discernment is showing again.
Are you particularly pleased with that word?

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:06 am

thatdberight wrote:Are you particularly pleased with that word?
Well... I always thought I was very discerning, but now someone is doubting my discernment, so I need to think carefully about how discerning I really am.

Thank you for bringing my lack of discernment to my attention... but I'll still bet you that Owen Jones was assaulted because of his views on Brexit. The chances are, in my discerning opinion, that the attack was carried out by neanderthals of a right-wing persuasion, who lack a discerning character.

Just my opinion though.. and I am thick. :cry:
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by HieronymousBoschHobs » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:07 am

God this place really is a gutter sometimes.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by addisclaret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:08 am

HieronymousBoschHobs wrote:God this place really is a gutter sometimes.
Bit harsh on gutters that, they do some useful work channelling away excess water.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:55 am

Yon fella as always been looking for a reyt good twattin

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:30 am

fidelcastro wrote:Agreed. I'd have thought that kicking a journalist in the head was unacceptable, whatever side of the fence you are on politically, but apparently not. It must be my lack of discernment ;)
I think it's unacceptable to kick anyone in the head, and I'm politically to the right. I'm also extremely discerning …. ;)
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:24 am

Who is Owen Jones?

I doubt right wing thugs would really know who he was...as I bet over 75% of the population wouldnt if his picture was put before them.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:06 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Who is Owen Jones?

I doubt right wing thugs would really know who he was...as I bet over 75% of the population wouldnt if his picture was put before them.
This.

Didn't have a clue who he was until this thread appeared.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:14 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:This.

Didn't have a clue who he was until this thread appeared.
The right wing thugs that were out in the early hours....most probabaly waiting at a nearby newsagents for the early copies of The Guardian to be delivered.

This smacks of either wrong place wrong time or somebody taking humbrage at something he likely said. Surprised he hasnt said that his attackers were wearing red MAGA hats

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:23 am

"None of my friends were surprised. All of them were just waiting for this to happen"

I think he's fibbing ...clearly they weren't waiting for this to happen and were caught by surprise by the attack.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by BFCmaj » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:35 am

claptrappers_union wrote:Mongs
Hmm. I thought that this word (along with spaz) died out during the 80s sometime. I think the use of a derogatory word that describes a disability as an insult is pretty depressing.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Corky » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:36 am

Very high on conjecture whilst mightily thin on actual evidence. Best wait until a bit more checkable information becomes available, perhaps.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Darthlaw » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:40 am

Corky wrote:Very high on conjecture whilst mightily thin on actual evidence. Best wait until a bit more checkable information becomes available, perhaps.
This.

No mention of why he has identified them as right wing other than the fact they’ve kicked the crap out of a left wing activist.

Regardless, it’s unacceptable that he’s been subject to violence no matter how much of a gobshite he is.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:41 am

BFCmaj wrote:Hmm. I thought that this word (along with spaz) died out during the 80s sometime. I think the use of a derogatory word that describes a disability as an insult is pretty depressing.
it didn't die out, im guessing you just moved into more wealthy, middle class circles.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by BFCmaj » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:49 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:it didn't die out, im guessing you just moved into more wealthy, middle class circles.
Rawtenstall :D

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:55 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:it didn't die out, im guessing you just moved into more wealthy, middle class circles.
Is that a serious comment ?

Going back to the OP many of the posts on this thread are so predictable - but still pretty depressing.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Foreverly Claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:02 am

Whatever Millertime . So it's OK to kick him in the head then ? Because somebody has different political views and expresses them in a way you don't like it's legit to assault him ? Where does that kind of logic lead ?

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:13 am

Anyone even trying to remotely justify this is a cretin.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Pearcey » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:22 am

Somebody got a kicking outside a pub at 2am. Sadly this is not unusual. At least the culprits aren’t far away from Pentonville Prison.
We’ve only got Jones’ side of the story so far so it will be interesting to hear if any else comes out.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:32 am

Since finding this post I have watched a few of his youtube videos. Nothing wrong with him in my opinion, pretty harmless, imagining middle class university graduate wanting to tell us all how the world should be. But I also watched the Sky News interview where he stormed off. As he is arguing he gets more and more dismissive of the others discussing it and when there is a difference of opinion he visibly clenches his fists, showing just how irate he is that his voice and his opinion wasnt deemed the correct one. Personally think also that these "right wing thugs" who now I have read were in the same bar have obviously had a disagreement inside with him. Him being holier than thou and never seemingly wrong has spoken down to these thugs. On leaving they have seen him and given him a kicking. Not right but I think there is a hell of a lot more to this story

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:50 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Since finding this post I have watched a few of his youtube videos. Nothing wrong with him in my opinion, pretty harmless, imagining middle class university graduate wanting to tell us all how the world should be. But I also watched the Sky News interview where he stormed off. As he is arguing he gets more and more dismissive of the others discussing it and when there is a difference of opinion he visibly clenches his fists, showing just how irate he is that his voice and his opinion wasnt deemed the correct one. Personally think also that these "right wing thugs" who now I have read were in the same bar have obviously had a disagreement inside with him. Him being holier than thou and never seemingly wrong has spoken down to these thugs. On leaving they have seen him and given him a kicking. Not right but I think there is a hell of a lot more to this story
Quite strange to make up your own version of what happen based on watching a couple interviews of him debating politics.
It’s no different to assuming the people who did it were right wing nazis who go around beating gay people just for the fun of it.

At this stage all we know is that what they did was wrong and there was no indication i’ve seen that it was provoked or justified

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by bfcjg » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:54 am

Anyone who resorts to violence or aggressive behaviour loses any argument.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:56 am

fidelcastro wrote:Homophobes or brexiteers... take your pick. :(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49381944#share-tools" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This kind of thing has been going on for some time, sadly.

Remember when a mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( hunted Nigel Farage and his family down forcing him to flee for his safety?

Yes, the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( first went into one pub where he usually frequented but he wasn't there. So they went hunting for him in a second pub where he was enjoying a quiet family Sunday lunch with his wife and children, aged 10 and 15.

So aggressive and violent were the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( that Mr Farage had to flee in a car driven by his wife, not before they jumped on the bonnet, in order to avoid God knows what the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick :( wanted to dish out to them.

A family friend had to return to the pub to pick up the 10 and 15 year old girls who had previously been so scared by the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( that they had run and hidden during all aggressive chaos.


https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2015- ... -kent-pub/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:56 am

I maintain the view that nobody deserves to be attacked for their political beliefs. Once that happens (whether that be from the left or right) and is condoned, then you are approaching very dangerous territory. It still doesn't mean I can't think he is an absolute bellend though, but I will defend his right to have his view no matter how misguided I think that may be.
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:20 am

TVC15 wrote:Quite strange to make up your own version of what happen based on watching a couple interviews of him debating politics.
It’s no different to assuming the people who did it were right wing nazis who go around beating gay people just for the fun of it.

At this stage all we know is that what they did was wrong and there was no indication i’ve seen that it was provoked or justified
What have you actually seen? Other than his version of events

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Bfcboyo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:35 am

People don't generally get attacked without reason. Very plausible that it was not politically motivated . There is no mention of political or homophobic slurs or insults during the attack.

May have just been some rival queens defending their drag.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:38 am

Jones is absolutely adamant it's right wingers.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Bfcboyo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:42 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Jones is absolutely adamant it's right wingers.
That is him being politically motivated.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:48 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Jones is absolutely adamant it's right wingers.
It might of been a left footed left winger playing on the right wing?
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:52 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Jones is absolutely adamant it's right wingers.
That's certainly a plausible theory.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:53 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:It might of been a left footed left winger playing on the right wing?

Them bloody Icelandic's coming over here and beating our homosexuals up.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:57 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:What have you actually seen? Other than his version of events
I haven’t seen anything - hence why I don’t feel the need to make up my own version of events

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:01 pm

TVC15 wrote:I haven’t seen anything - hence why I don’t feel the need to make up my own version of events
Which is the right thing to do.

If the original poster had done the same, then I don't think anyone on here would of reacted or given a silly response.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:11 pm

TVC15 wrote:I haven’t seen anything - hence why I don’t feel the need to make up my own version of events
Havent you just done that by saying

"there was no indication i’ve seen that it was provoked or justified"

Therefore making up your own version that it wasnt provoked or justified.

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by morpheus2 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:17 pm

You don't understand this because you're not gay, okay?

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:22 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Havent you just done that by saying

"there was no indication i’ve seen that it was provoked or justified"

Therefore making up your own version that it wasnt provoked or justified.
You struggling with the English language this morning darling ?
I said their was nothing I had seen to suggest it was provoked - that’s a fact. Have you seen something to the contrary or are you in the camp that he deserves it because he can be a bit of an arse on TV and was therefore bound to be provoking it ?

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by If it be your will » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:09 pm

bfcjg wrote:Anyone who resorts to violence or aggressive behaviour loses any argument.
Conversely, then, which argument has Owen Jones won by way of having his head kicked in?

(I'm hoping it was this one... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... urosceptic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )
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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by AndrewJB » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:14 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:This kind of thing has been going on for some time, sadly.

Remember when a mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( hunted Nigel Farage and his family down forcing him to flee for his safety?

Yes, the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( first went into one pub where he usually frequented but he wasn't there. So they went hunting for him in a second pub where he was enjoying a quiet family Sunday lunch with his wife and children, aged 10 and 15.

So aggressive and violent were the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( that Mr Farage had to flee in a car driven by his wife, not before they jumped on the bonnet, in order to avoid God knows what the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick :( wanted to dish out to them.

A family friend had to return to the pub to pick up the 10 and 15 year old girls who had previously been so scared by the mob of far left thugs or remainiacs.....take your pick, :( that they had run and hidden during all aggressive chaos.


https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2015- ... -kent-pub/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I remember this. Farage left his children in a pub, and was too scared to go back himself so sent a relative to get them. Who leaves their children in a pub (apart from David Cameron)?You know when he talks about 'donning khaki and heading to the hills with his rifle'? Well he probably means heading to the hills to hide.

You don't need to surmise as to who the demonstrators were, because the article clearly says; "the group was in fancy dress and included migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mums" (so neither 'far left' nor 'remainers' and as nobody was charged not 'thugs' either)

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:21 pm

If it be your will wrote:Conversely, then, which argument has Owen Jones won by way of having his head kicked in?

(I'm hoping it was this one... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... urosceptic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )
Oops

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Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Post by thatdberight » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:25 pm

If it be your will wrote:Conversely, then, which argument has Owen Jones won by way of having his head kicked in?

(I'm hoping it was this one... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... urosceptic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )
The fact that Jones may have thought that and that most people wouldn't know what his stance on Brexit is isn't important. You don't need a reason to suggest it was "brexiteers". They're just bad people so they've got it coming to them.

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