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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:46 pm

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere.
Did anybody notice any diving yesterday or was SD just getting back on his hobby horse?
Not that I don’t agree with him. I’d castrate them and it would stop overnight.

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Re: Divers

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:52 pm

I dont think we have enough back up in the striker department to contemplate castrating Ashley Barnes

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Re: Divers

Post by rincon » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:52 pm

There was a couple of occasions when the Arsenal players went down very easily, but we have had far worse than yesterday

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Re: Divers

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:57 pm

Barbara Dickson in their midfield definitely dived at least once yesterday
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Re: Divers

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:01 pm

I wouldn't have said it was particularly bad tbh. Not really sure where Dyche was coming from yesterday.

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Re: Divers

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:03 pm

This is just one of the things SD was talking about.

Aubameyang went down cluching his leg after a tackle in the 1st half, and laid there for fully 5+ seconds.

When Mike Dean didn't bring the game to a halt, and Burnley had the ball, he got up and for someone with an "injury" with no sign of a limp or anything, he sprinted remarkably up the wing into his own half.... so called ankle injury completely forgotten.

Call me a cynic but.... if you have been hurt as Aubameyang reckoned he was when he went down as if shot.... then the minimum you would expect is at least limp, but to break into a sprint like he did .. then it is trying to deceive the Ref, and that is just what SD alludes to week in week out.
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Re: Divers

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:18 pm

Someone fell done and stopped our final attack...and got Ashley Barnes booked. That was a win win win.
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Re: Divers

Post by EarbyClaret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:28 pm

It's obviously something Sean wanted to put back on the agenda and a live TV game gave him the opportunity to do it.

There were maybe a couple of examples yesterday, but nothing that was too bad. Certainly nothing that had an impact on the result.

He's right to continue to highlight it as in issue but to the neutral observer it would have looked a bit odd to use yesterday's game as an example.
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Re: Divers

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:44 pm

IanMcL wrote:Someone fell done and stopped our final attack...and got Ashley Barnes booked. That was a win win win.
No. That was a foul and Bashley ruined our last opportunity. Pulled him back then dumped him.

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Re: Divers

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:15 pm

For me, Torreira was the worst of the lot. From the second he came on, he seemed to spend the majority of his time rolling around claiming he’d been seriously hurt when he’d barely been touched. It was quite clearly an instruction from the bench as he was a substitute. ‘Clever Game Management’ is how it’s generally viewed amongst the pundits.

Likewise an incident where their keeper and a player went down because they brushed against each other.
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Re: Divers

Post by pureclaret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:15 pm

Got to say when I watched it, i thought that it was impeding the progress of an opponent as the Arsenal player ran from a side angel to get in front of Barnes when the ball was nowhere near and Barnes reacted as you said to this, but if referee had seen it fully I think he would have said free kick to us or just a coming together but all he saw was Barnes man handle him, he went down easy though i think that and when the keeper and defender collided and both held the wrong leg arm as being injured, small things but delays the game and we are crap at that.
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Re: Divers

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:23 pm

Aubameyang was milking things as was the Spanish turd Cebelos (spelling i know) The sub they brought on seemed to just throw himself to the floor like some Shakespearean actor .Can’t blame Dyche at all for being p1ssed off by their cheating and gamesmanship . I’d be amazed if they get anywhere near the top 4 their playing out from the back was laughable

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Re: Divers

Post by Rodleydave » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:54 pm

Dear Sean...One of the best divers was Harry Potts...well known for falling just outside the penalty area and getting the penalty.

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Re: Divers

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:47 pm

Rodleydave wrote:Dear Sean...One of the best divers was Harry Potts...well known for falling just outside the penalty area and getting the penalty.
Don't you mean inside the penalty area :roll:

Penalties should not be awarded for something "outside" the area :D

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Re: Divers

Post by Rodleydave » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:15 pm

and landing inside the penalty area of course.

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Re: Divers

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:16 pm

Rodleydave wrote:and landing inside the penalty area of course.
:D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Divers

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:48 pm

Ceballos first half think Cork left a leg out and slightest of touches, he seemed to stop and then do an half twist somersault and nobody picked it up :?

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Re: Divers

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:57 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Ceballos first half think Cork left a leg out and slightest of touches, he seemed to stop and then do an half twist somersault and nobody picked it up :?
No, the Burnley bench saw it and marked him 9 out of 10 for style!

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Re: Divers

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:21 pm

You could make the argument that our blatant time wasting isn't really in the spirit of the game either.

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Re: Divers

Post by Bosscat » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:30 pm

jrgbfc wrote:You could make the argument that our blatant time wasting isn't really in the spirit of the game either.
There are some complete wastes of time (and oxygen) on here too :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Divers

Post by The Enclosure » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:27 pm

Apparently if VAR catches someone ( or maybe it was the ref )diving they can only award a yellow card
It was discussed on Talksport this morning.
Should be a red card and a ban for a few matches.it would soon stop it.

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Re: Divers

Post by simonclaret » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:35 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Apparently if VAR catches someone ( or maybe it was the ref )diving they can only award a yellow card
It was discussed on Talksport this morning.
Should be a red card and a ban for a few matches.it would soon stop it.
VAR not used for diving, unless it's to overturn a penalty given. Can't give yellows either.

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Re: Divers

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:40 pm

simonclaret wrote:VAR not used for diving, unless it's to overturn a penalty given. Can't give yellows either.
I think you're right, but should definitely be brought in for diving.
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Re: Divers

Post by The Enclosure » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:03 pm

simonclaret wrote:VAR not used for diving, unless it's to overturn a penalty given. Can't give yellows either.
It must be the ref then that can only award a yellow for a blatant dive.....still not right.
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Re: Divers

Post by dsr » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Luiz had one where he was lying on the ground in absolute agony, unable to move, and yet when the ref asked him if he needed the trainer he said no. Obviously shamming.

They ought to make the rule that when a player says he doesn't need the trainer, that's his chance. Game restarts straight away. If he still isn't ready, tough. And players who do need the trainer don't get waved straight back on, especially if the ref knows they're shamming.

And especially specially, any player who goes down screaming in paid has to leave the field for 10 minutes to be checked out. I know what it takes for a professional sportsman to scream in pain, from watching rugby, and if being jumped on and flattened by 40 stone of rugby players (more than one player!) isn't enough to cause a scream of pain, then footballers can stop being such pansies.
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