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Tarkowski

Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:16 am

Head could have been turned with the Leicester speculation but looks like he has just got on with it and started the season superbly.

When he is on it, there are not many better defenders in this league.
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:21 am

Had a stormer at Arsenal.
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Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:33 am

This season the Tarkowski cream will rise to the very top.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:45 am

claretcarrot93 wrote:Head could have been turned with the Leicester speculation but looks like he has just got on with it and started the season superbly.

When he is on it they are not many better defenders in this league.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:45 am

claretcarrot93 wrote:Head could have been turned with the Leicester speculation but looks like he has just got on with it and stared the season superbly.

When he is on it, there are not many better defenders in this league.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by jdrobbo » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:48 am

You can say that again.
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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:52 am

There's an echo around here !!!

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:54 am

Two excellent performances so far along with Mee.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:00 pm

Could he have done better with the second goal? Tried to steer Aubameyang outside onto his left foot rather than allow him to come inside onto his stronger right foot and get his shot away?

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Post by Bosscat » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:00 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:.....
Pardon..
Speak up m8 :lol: :lol:

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Post by claretcarrot93 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:18 pm

Ha woops

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Post by South West Claret. » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:23 pm

Our management team can be so proud at the players that have been brought in since they have been here in general.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:28 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:
claretcarrot93 wrote:
Well if that is the case its back facing the right way now

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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:45 pm

He's putting himself in the shop window, which is good for us as it'll only make him try harder. £50 million next summer after a stormer of a season and I doubt many will complain about that.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:17 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Two excellent performances so far along with Mee.
Big Head.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:21 pm

If you question Tarks on the second goal then the same has to apply to Mee’s rather lame attempt to block with his right leg. But both were excellent in general throughout. Credit Arsenal really for their pressing in the second half especially for that deciding goal. They played wider in the second half and kept Lowton and Pieters busy at the back doubling up on them when attacking. Our full-backs won the first half, theirs won the second half and ultimately the game.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:33 pm

Looks sharper and stronger and is playing with clear intention. Cracking first couple of games for him.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by PhilC » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:13 pm

He still always reminds me of Princess Fiona though.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by mkmel » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:23 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:28 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:Head could have been turned with the Leicester speculation but looks like he has just got on with it and started the season superbly.

When he is on it, there are not many better defenders in this league.
Dyche, generally, brings in strong characters who are more likely to get on with things. Tarky is one of those strong characters.

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:39 pm

Got his mate back at right back!
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Re: Tarkowski

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:43 pm

A good season this year then I think someone may just be willing to pay the 40/50 million we allegedly want for him.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:30 pm

A tremendous start. He seems to shine when the going gets tough and we are playing against top sides. Think he will get even better. It means no team walks all over when we have him and Ben at the heart of the defense. In fairness Ben has had a great start too

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Post by houseboy » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:56 pm

I see people are still 'selling' Tarks, even though the window is closed. They must be real sad he didn't go. I think many act like a bunch of shopkeepers where players are concerned. Are we a football club or just a money making business? Even before we sign a player some start talking about his 'sell-on' value. FFS sake why can't we just accept we have a decent team and stop speculating about how much we can get for someone. Tarks is a Burnley player and will remain so until such time as the board decide to sell him, in the meantime he's been sold on here a dozen times.
Consider this: bearing in mind the money in the PL if you sell a player for 50m and then get relegated as result (in part) of that sale, has that sale been good business? I don't want Burnley FC to get a penny for Tarks, I want him to stay, no matter what his 'worth' until he hangs his boots up and then give him a testimonial, he can then give the money to a good local charity - job done. I do not give a flying f*ck if Burnley FC make any money from the sale of a player (unless, like Heaton, he doesn't want to stay). As Dyche has said so many times (to the point of monotony) 'we don't need to sell anyone'.

Why are people still talking about something that hasn't happened, cannot happen for nearly 6 months and, hopefully, might never happen?
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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:09 pm

houseboy wrote:Why are people still talking about something that hasn't happened, cannot happen for nearly 6 months and, hopefully, might never happen?
The same reason you're talking about relegation if he's sold, I suppose.
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Post by TVC15 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:01 pm

Bit of an overreaction there to say the least Houseboy !
I don’t know of any Burnley fan wanting to sell Tarks.
But the reality is that if he is as good as we think he could be and somebody offers £40m to £50m then it’s very likely that it will be a club pushing for the top 6 and a club that can blow us out of the water in what they can offer Tarks on and off the pitch......a much bigger version of what we could offer him compared to Brentford when we signed him.
So reality is that like many who have gone before him he will want to go and we will want to sell at that price - as that’s our current financial model.
Forget about how much it will cost if we go down - that’s already part of our financial model. We don’t operate in a way that other clubs do in trying to stay in the league at all costs. We won’t do what Palace have just done with Zaha...we will up to a limit - but not in the realms of turning down £50m for Tarks.

Now straighten those twisted knickers !
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Post by houseboy » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:53 am

Tall Paul wrote:The same reason you're talking about relegation if he's sold, I suppose.
Think you misunderstood mate - I wasn't talking about relegation apart from in a hypothetical situation - I don't think relegation is on the cards at all for us. I'm actually more optimistic this season than at any time since we got back to the PL.

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by houseboy » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:09 am

TVC15 wrote:Bit of an overreaction there to say the least Houseboy !
I don’t know of any Burnley fan wanting to sell Tarks.
But the reality is that if he is as good as we think he could be and somebody offers £40m to £50m then it’s very likely that it will be a club pushing for the top 6 and a club that can blow us out of the water in what they can offer Tarks on and off the pitch......a much bigger version of what we could offer him compared to Brentford when we signed him.
So reality is that like many who have gone before him he will want to go and we will want to sell at that price - as that’s our current financial model.
Forget about how much it will cost if we go down - that’s already part of our financial model. We don’t operate in a way that other clubs do in trying to stay in the league at all costs. We won’t do what Palace have just done with Zaha...we will up to a limit - but not in the realms of turning down £50m for Tarks.

Now straighten those twisted knickers !
Ha ha - all straightened. To be honest bud I was being a little sarcastic when I said fans wanted him to leave - I don't think any Burnley fan wants that - it was a bit of a hyperbolic way of saying they keep going on about it when it isn't even on the agenda for the foreseeable future. My point was that money has taken over the game so much now that even fans seem to put it before anything else and I find that a little sad, in the genuine sense of the word. It seems, and it's just an observation, that many fans now take more pride in how much money their club has (and I'm talking about fans in general here, not just Clarets) than they do anything else. Many on here going on about how much one of our players is worth if we sold him is one aspect of it, the other is, for instance, City fans creaming themselves because their club has just paid 20 skillion pounds for a player. The media hype about the money going around is made worse by the fact that Sky Sports gets all excited about it because it's all part of the 'PL is the best league in the world' myth they continually promote in order to enhance their own product.
I didn't mean to have a go at anyone in my previous post (sorry if it seemed that way) but my gripe is with the hype around the obsession with money in the game that has now reached the level of beyond stupidity.

My gripe is with the hype - see what I did there? :lol:

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Re: Tarkowski

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:38 am

houseboy wrote:Think you misunderstood mate - I wasn't talking about relegation apart from in a hypothetical situation - I don't think relegation is on the cards at all for us. I'm actually more optimistic this season than at any time since we got back to the PL.
What's the difference between your hypothetical situation and the hypothetical situation of Tarkowski being sold?

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Post by houseboy » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:37 pm

Tall Paul wrote:What's the difference between your hypothetical situation and the hypothetical situation of Tarkowski being sold?
I would have thought that was obvious. My mention of relegation was in the context of the discussion, being used simply as an example of what might transpire should Tarkowski (or anyone else for that matter) be sold, it was simply a point of argument not the actual subject matter. Talk of Tarkowski's 'transfer' is not in the context of anything, it IS the subject matter. My argument was about the continual talk of something that is not going to happen for the time being and is therefore pointless, my mention of relegation was in passing within that argument. There is no comparison at all. Put simply: Tarkowki's non-existent transfer was the subject, my mention of relegation was in passing within that aregument.

To be honest the main thrust of what I was saying was actually missed, i.e. that the obsession with money has now come to the point where we are discussing things that are not happening because some people think it will make the club a lot of money. I would prefer to keep hold of players that are useful to us regardless of what money they would bring. I would only sell players that WANT to leave (Heaton) otherwise keep them instead of thinking about how much money we could make from their sale.

Dyche: 'We have no need to sell any players.'

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