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Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:27 pm
by MRG
Wolves 0-1 United Martial with a good finish

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:35 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Daniel James given a yellow for diving. Bad decision.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:36 pm
by MRG
I felt that it was a good decision by the ref

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:37 pm
by Greeny
He should have been booked for the first dive he got away with. 2nd one was a nailed on dive + quite rightly booked.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:39 pm
by MRG
Take away some of the sloppy passing and United are looking well. Wan Bissako looks a player.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:39 pm
by CombatClaret
Wolves at home not looking like themselves from last season.

I wonder what's changed... {Cough} Europa {Cough}!

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:42 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Well when you watch it again keep your eyes on the defenders back foot which is in the air, and it is that foot that causes James to go down. Just an accident, certainly not a dive and definitely not a card.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:50 pm
by Darnhill Claret
For a split second Moutinho thinks he’s being penalised.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:51 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Obviously felt the contact.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 pm
by ClaretTony
Darnhill Claret wrote:Well when you watch it again keep your eyes on the defenders back foot which is in the air, and it is that foot that causes James to go down. Just an accident, certainly not a dive and definitely not a card.
Watched it closely and I don’t think there is any contact. I think Moss has got the yellow spot on.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:59 pm
by FCBurnley
Not impressed by Wolves so far but no doubt they will be awesome against us. United look very strong and quick.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:02 pm
by EarbyClaret
Not watching but hoping for a United win with Wolves spending a lot of time and energy chasing lost causes followed by more of the same, with the addition of a disruptive and debilitating Italian round-trip, on Thursday/Friday.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:04 pm
by Tricky Trevor
I’d have liked to have seen VAR used for the dive but whilst the game was allowed to continue. The man in the van could take his time, get it right, and then any card handed out. The player would need to be told he is under review in case he picked up a second yellow.
I also thought there was enough contact, as in post7, not to book him.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:08 pm
by ElectroClaret
EarbyClaret wrote:Not watching but hoping for a United win with Wolves spending a lot of time and energy chasing lost causes followed by more of the same, with the addition of a disruptive and debilitating Italian round-trip, on Thursday/Friday.
And a few niggling injuries.... ;)

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:12 pm
by ClaretTony
Brilliant goal for Wolves

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:12 pm
by KRBFC
What a player, I said he was world class playing in the championship, many disagreed.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:13 pm
by EarbyClaret
ElectroClaret wrote: And a few niggling injuries....
Indeed :-)

Will be interesting to see what they do if the Torino tie is in the balance when they play us. They've got more depth than we had at this point last season but it would still be a massive gamble to rest a few - although hopefully that's what they'll do!

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:13 pm
by ElectroClaret
Cracker.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:14 pm
by ClaretTony
And now given after the farcical wait for VAR

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:15 pm
by Dyched
ClaretTony wrote:And now given after the farcical wait for VAR
It stopped Wolves fans singing that silly “We’ve got” song any way. Plus for me.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:16 pm
by Dyched
Maybe not :lol:

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:16 pm
by dandeclaret
Imagine if you could have just celebrated that goal properly - an amazing, brilliant goal, rather than having all excitement sucked out of it.

The Wolves fans said it best....

"F*ck VAR, F*ck VAR" and repeat.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:16 pm
by elwaclaret
They need to sort VAR quickly it is killing football.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:17 pm
by ElectroClaret
It's bloody awful.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:18 pm
by Tall Paul
KRBFC wrote:What a player, I said he was world class playing in the championship, many disagreed.
You say a lot of things, mostly lies.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:19 pm
by Burnley Ace
ClaretTony wrote:Brilliant goal for Wolves
Struck it well but no. 29 should have blocked it. I would be disappointed if one of our defenders had turned his back and ducked.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:20 pm
by CombatClaret
All the pre-invested pundits saying VAR will speed up with us but If that's what's needed every time it never will.

Some football bureaucrat still needs to drag some lines around a frame until satisfied.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:20 pm
by Dyched
VAR only checked for an offside which was pretty tight to be fair. Killing football hahahaha

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:20 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnley Ace wrote:Struck it well but no. 29 should have blocked it. I would be disappointed if one of our defenders had turned his back and ducked.
Dyche would be furious if one our defenders turned his back and ducked :D

Brilliant shot though

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 pm
by Greeny
Give your heads a shake. VAR is great making all the checks. We all complained when goals were scored that were offside or handball or both. What’s not to like? Unless you are closet Arsenal fans + on the wrong messageboard?

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 pm
by beddie
elwaclaret wrote:They need to sort VAR quickly it is killing football.
There will always be controversy. Then there this new hand ball rule which wants scrapping. Danny Mirphy called it right by saying its going to make the game less enjoyable to each and I agree.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:22 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Has Luke Shaw eaten all the pies?

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:22 pm
by Tall Paul
CombatClaret wrote:All the pre-invested pundits saying VAR will speed up with us but If that's what's needed every time it never will.

Some football bureaucrat still needs to drag some lines around a frame until satisfied.
It took less time than the Arsenal players delayed the game pretending to be injured on Saturday.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:23 pm
by CombatClaret
Tall Paul wrote:It took less time than the Arsenal players delayed the game pretending to be injured on Saturday.
That's not a case for VAR though is it. Apples and Oranges

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:23 pm
by ElectroClaret
HunterST_BFC wrote:Has Luke Shaw eaten all the pies?
No. Jon Moss got most of em first... :)

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:24 pm
by Greeny
beddie wrote:There will always be controversy. Then there this new hand ball rule which wants scrapping. Danny Mirphy called it right by saying its going to make the game less enjoyable to each and I agree.
Miserable Murphy has been stealing complaining about dodgy decisions by refs for years. Now that has been fixed with VAR. Happy days

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:24 pm
by Spijed
Greeny wrote:Give your heads a shake. VAR is great making all the checks. We all complained when goals were scored that were offside or handball or both. What’s not to like? Unless you are closet Arsenal fans + on the wrong messageboard?
What's not to like?

The fact as time goes on there will be no spontaneous celebration for any goal as supporters will just have to wait until the VAR check is over!

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:24 pm
by ClaretTony
Pogba pen saved

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:25 pm
by ClaretTony
beddie wrote:There will always be controversy. Then there this new hand ball rule which wants scrapping. Danny Mirphy called it right by saying its going to make the game less enjoyable to each and I agree.
It will be less enjoyable. VAR as it’s been so far is awful.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:26 pm
by Tall Paul
CombatClaret wrote:That's not a case for VAR though is it. Apples and Oranges
The case for VAR is that, as goals in football are so important, it's worth taking a little bit of time to check that they are valid.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:28 pm
by Spijed
Tall Paul wrote:The case for VAR is that, as goals in football are so important, it's worth taking a little bit of time to check that they are valid.
And completely spoil any goal celebration!

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:31 pm
by Tall Paul
Image

Doesn't look like it spoiled Wolves' celebration.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:33 pm
by CombatClaret
Tall Paul wrote:The case for VAR is that, as goals in football are so important, it's worth taking a little bit of time to check that they are valid.
By checking many seconds before, pixel by pixel the player who played the ball from the short corner to the player who passed the ball back to the player who passed the ball to the player who scored a goal of the season contender.

Thrilling stuff.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:34 pm
by Spijed
Tall Paul wrote:Image

Doesn't look like it spoiled Wolves' celebration.
Ask Man City fans if they will keep celebrating after what happened (twice) against Spurs?

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:34 pm
by ClaretAL
For me the spontaneous eruption if celebration from 20k like minded fans from all walks of life, whether that be rich, poor, grieving, celebrating to totally new fans, which totally prioritises for that brief time znyth8ng that is going on in your life, will no longer be there because of VAR.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:36 pm
by Dyched
Spijed wrote:Ask Man City fans if they will keep celebrating after what happened (twice) against Spurs?
Yeah lets start giving illegal goals so fans can celebrate.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:36 pm
by IanMcL
All the help built in for the big clubs and yet Wolves are playing Monday, Thursday in Turin and then Sunday against the best. That seems ludicrous and unfair.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:39 pm
by Bosscat
Twitter is full of

"Paul Pogba has missed four penalties in the Premier League since the start of last season; the most of any player in the competition"

He has missed more pens in the past year than we have had in the past 3 seasons I reckon :roll:

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:41 pm
by jrgbfc
I can't ever remember hearing United's travelling support so quiet. You can see why Wolves stick away fans in that lower tier down the side, makes it so hard to get any kind of atmosphere going.

Re: Wolves v Man Utd

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:41 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:Twitter is full of

"Paul Pogba has missed four penalties in the Premier League since the start of last season; the most of any player in the competition"

He has missed more pens in the past year than we have had in the past 3 seasons I reckon :roll:
To get to four pens in the Premier League you have to go back to Feb 2017, Gray at Swansea.