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Amazing turnaround by England. Warner and Lasagne looked well set at 130-2. Archer seemed to bowl within himself yet took six fer
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Justifiably. We weren't bowling well. Can't complain at the final score, but if we'd bowled as we did after tea they could have been out for around 100.Bosscat wrote:And to think a lot were complaining this afternoon....
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Decent captaincy (eventually) from Root today, called the toss right, let his fast bowlers loose at the end after a mid-afternoon drift. Now needs to score some runs and help level the series.
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Here is weather .... as for Headingley why don'tcha google it ya lazy buggerSteve1956 wrote:What's the weather forecast for that backwater tomorrow?
Joking apart we have cloud in the morning getting brighter and the weekend looking good.... so assume the Cricket similar
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
one English batsman scores a hundred in our first innings we win the game simply
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Saw this on the Beeb site.
.. Australia lost their last eight wickets for 43 runs; Bob Willis took 8-43 for England in the famous 1981 Headingley Ashes Test...
Don't you just love the stats cricket throws up.
.. Australia lost their last eight wickets for 43 runs; Bob Willis took 8-43 for England in the famous 1981 Headingley Ashes Test...
Don't you just love the stats cricket throws up.
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Takes all the credit for putting massive curse on the Aussies.Quickenthetempo wrote:91-2 not looking the best idea to bowl first now. Especially with good weather tomorrow.
Hopes to curse it
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I think the smart money will be waiting to see how we bat, rather than crowing about mopping up the Aussie tail on a wicket with seam swing and a distinctly erratic bounce....in dodgy light. Maybe we will make hay...but maybe we will find 200 is beyond us.Quickenthetempo wrote:Takes all the credit for putting massive curse on the Aussies.
Archer did ok..and Broad came through in the end...but there was some real aimless dross early on.
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Stokes and Woakes in particular were poor.fatboy47 wrote:I think the smart money will be waiting to see how we bat, rather than crowing about mopping up the Aussie tail on a wicket with seam swing and a distinctly erratic bounce....in dodgy light. Maybe we will make hay...but maybe we will find 200 is beyond us.
Archer did ok..and Broad came through in the end...but there was some real aimless dross early on.
Woakes has played a lot of cricket this summer and might need a rest at Old Trafford.
Bringing in Sam Curran would make sense for the next test. Arguable that Stokes could move to 4 if Denly fails again here and Jimmy is fit, let Stokes concentrate on his batting which is in superb nick.
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Jimmy doesn’t get back in the side at the moment. Big call but who do you drop
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Granny WeatherWax wrote:Jimmy doesn’t get back in the side at the moment. Big call but who do you drop
Are you serious ???..
A fit Anderson walks into any test team in the world..still...absolutely no question about it. Archer may have the tools to provide a great foil for Jimmy, but I'sorry Gww...there isnt anything else around the counties that could lace his boots.
Anderson is one of the few who actually do something with every ball...tricky job..and 2 way control is hard to master.......some of these clowns and gym bunnies cant master direction whilst bowling fast medium and doing next to nothing with the ball.
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Anderson in for Woakes would be the likely scenario.
A fast bowling quartet of a fit Jimmy Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes with Leach as the spinner would be an exciting prospect.
We would miss Woakes more for his very good and disciplined batting at number 8 than his bowling at the minute.
A fast bowling quartet of a fit Jimmy Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes with Leach as the spinner would be an exciting prospect.
We would miss Woakes more for his very good and disciplined batting at number 8 than his bowling at the minute.
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Therein lies the problem, you wouldn’t want to weaken the batting more than it already is tbhBraindead wrote:Anderson in for Woakes would be the likely scenario.
A fast bowling quartet of a fit Jimmy Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes with Leach as the spinner would be an exciting prospect.
We would miss Woakes more for his very good and disciplined batting at number 8 than his bowling at the minute.
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This is why the Moeen "enigma" is so sad and problematic at present.Hibsclaret wrote:Therein lies the problem, you wouldn’t want to weaken the batting more than it already is tbh
Over the past few years his bowling has been effective, but it's his lower order runs batting at 7 or 8 that have been crucial.
Get well soon Moeen!
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Without looking at stats, Sam Curran seems to have come to the rescue far more than Ali in recent times.nil_desperandum wrote:This is why the Moeen "enigma" is so sad and problematic at present.
Over the past few years his bowling has been effective, but it's his lower order runs batting at 7 or 8 that have been crucial.
Get well soon Moeen!
Stokes needs to play as a batsman at 4 and occasional bowler for me.
Leach did alright at Lords but a fit Jimmy would bowl before a spinner in England any day of the week. The Windies did alright with a pace attack and few overs from Hooper, which Root could do.
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If Anderson is fit there is no way he can be left out.
Old Trafford will be the quickest and hardest pitch that is played on in this tour so I would be tempted to leave out either Woakes or Leach.
If the ball is moving about at Manchester then an attack of Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes would be a formidable one.
Old Trafford will be the quickest and hardest pitch that is played on in this tour so I would be tempted to leave out either Woakes or Leach.
If the ball is moving about at Manchester then an attack of Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes would be a formidable one.
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If we bowl Australia out cheaply twice in this test with an in-form bowling attack it will be quite a gamble to bring James Anderson in at Old Trafford bearing in mind how little game time he's had.
A very difficult decision IMO if he declares himself fit.
A very difficult decision IMO if he declares himself fit.
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Archer is getting over bowled with no Jimmy in there and you don't want to over bowl Jimmy on his comeback.nil_desperandum wrote:If we bowl Australia out cheaply twice in this test with an in-form bowling attack it will be quite a gamble to bring James Anderson in at Old Trafford bearing in mind how little game time he's had.
A very difficult decision IMO if he declares himself fit.
So an extra seamer in there makes sense.
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You been to LCCC this year? It’s been playing like a spinners dream.tybfc wrote:If Anderson is fit there is no way he can be left out.
Old Trafford will be the quickest and hardest pitch that is played on in this tour so I would be tempted to leave out either Woakes or Leach.
If the ball is moving about at Manchester then an attack of Anderson, Broad, Archer and Stokes would be a formidable one.
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Agree with all that but who do you drop. It’s a massively hard call. Maybe butler, but whatever rational thing you do to get him back in you’re gonna be weakening an already fragile batting lineup. Hence why, especially given he might pull up again, it’s hard to simply slot him back in.fatboy47 wrote:Are you serious ???..
A fit Anderson walks into any test team in the world..still...absolutely no question about it. Archer may have the tools to provide a great foil for Jimmy, but I'sorry Gww...there isnt anything else around the counties that could lace his boots.
Anderson is one of the few who actually do something with every ball...tricky job..and 2 way control is hard to master.......some of these clowns and gym bunnies cant master direction whilst bowling fast medium and doing next to nothing with the ball.
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Well surprise surprise no Steve Smith and the Aussies can't muster 200 would've thought it,they should be thankful to Warner and Labuschagne for getting them a semi decent total,the rest contributed nothing.
Weather looks set fare for today and beyond so there's no excuse for England not to build a big 1st innings lead,about time Root showed his quality in this series.
It's simple just bat all day,even with a truncated 1st day there is loads of time left in this match,don't go chasing runs let the bowlers bowl to you and scoring will be easier,Warner/Labuschagne showed in their partnership that you can move the scoreboard on quickly once you get set.
England need 2/3 good partnerships and one of the top 5 to go big,a lead of 150 would be ideal,but knowing this England side they'll make hard work of this advantage Jofra's given them.
I'll be surprised if Woakes plays at OT he wasn't used much at Lords and apparently is carrying a niggle,the key for England is keeping Archer fit and firing,he adds a different edge to the attack,and yesterday showed his adaptability on a slower track,he bowled much fuller and that got him his 6 wickets,Stokes and Woakes would do well to watch and learn,a guy in only his 2nd test match and already he's leading from the front.
I did think Stokes was a shoe in for SPOTY,but if England regain the Ashes and Jofra keeps up this form it'll be a hard call between the pair.
Weather looks set fare for today and beyond so there's no excuse for England not to build a big 1st innings lead,about time Root showed his quality in this series.
It's simple just bat all day,even with a truncated 1st day there is loads of time left in this match,don't go chasing runs let the bowlers bowl to you and scoring will be easier,Warner/Labuschagne showed in their partnership that you can move the scoreboard on quickly once you get set.
England need 2/3 good partnerships and one of the top 5 to go big,a lead of 150 would be ideal,but knowing this England side they'll make hard work of this advantage Jofra's given them.
I'll be surprised if Woakes plays at OT he wasn't used much at Lords and apparently is carrying a niggle,the key for England is keeping Archer fit and firing,he adds a different edge to the attack,and yesterday showed his adaptability on a slower track,he bowled much fuller and that got him his 6 wickets,Stokes and Woakes would do well to watch and learn,a guy in only his 2nd test match and already he's leading from the front.
I did think Stokes was a shoe in for SPOTY,but if England regain the Ashes and Jofra keeps up this form it'll be a hard call between the pair.
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And so it begins ....
Come on England
Wish bloody Jason Roy would stop fishing at balls outside off stump he will get an edge if he carries on
Come on England
Wish bloody Jason Roy would stop fishing at balls outside off stump he will get an edge if he carries on
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Yes - to every gameGranny WeatherWax wrote:You been to LCCC this year? It’s been playing like a spinners dream.
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Jason Roy goes for 9
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Chasing anothrr wide one needlessly...thanks Jason....don't ring us.
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What have I just said ... bloody hell Jason (flapper) Roy gone
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Granny WeatherWax wrote:Agree with all that but who do you drop. It’s a massively hard call. Maybe butler, but whatever rational thing you do to get him back in you’re gonna be weakening an already fragile batting lineup. Hence why, especially given he might pull up again, it’s hard to simply slot him back in.
See your point gww but simply dont agree....the batting quality of your number 11 should be irrelevant in test cricket...a total non-consideration.
Its about the guys selected to bat....they need to deliver.
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He can't help it. He is not a test opener.
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So predictable from Roy,a proper test opener lets that go,he doesn't have a five day mentality i'm afraid.
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Root goes for a duck
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Collapse beckons!!!
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Can hardly have a go at Roy when his captain is in no better nick!
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Can either of these sides bat
Yes that was a rhetorical
The bowling has been top class tbf,but you have to combat that in test cricket.
At this rate England will be bowling again before the end of the day
Denly overturns an LBW decision thank goodness,Hazlewood is reeking havoc with the new cherry.
England just need to ride this spell out and it should become easier i hope.
Yes that was a rhetorical
The bowling has been top class tbf,but you have to combat that in test cricket.
At this rate England will be bowling again before the end of the day
Denly overturns an LBW decision thank goodness,Hazlewood is reeking havoc with the new cherry.
England just need to ride this spell out and it should become easier i hope.
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Batting like it's one more game on Rocket League before bedtime instead of a marathon session on Europa Universalis IV
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Thats Roys last test for a while ....well it should be
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You can't judge a score until both sides have batted. The Australian score looked well below par but given the propensity for England to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it may be a half decent score...
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Root got a really good ball. Roy got himself out again. Very different.RVclaret wrote:Can hardly have a go at Roy when his captain is in no better nick!
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Shocking, if it wasnt the norm.fatboy47 wrote:Chasing anothrr wide one needlessly...thanks Jason....don't ring us.
The lack of technique is ridiculous, no moving your front foot to the pitch of the ball, just stand still and slash at it.
There are kids playing U11 cricket who know better than that.
I give up on this lot, they are ****.
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Game could be over at this rate by tomorrow lunchtime
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I don't disagree but who replaces him,Root has to revert to 4,putting him up to 3 clearly hasn't worked,i'd be tempted to promote Stokes to 3,he's shown that he's got the technique and temperament to play a proper test innings,you could have Roy at 5/6 but he can't open that much is evident.The Enclosure wrote:Thats Roys last test for a while ....well it should be
Who partners Burns at the top of the order,i haven't a clue TBH,but the selectors need to find someone,otherwise England will continually be 2 down for nothing.
The only name that comes to mind is Ollie Pope,but it's a big ask bringing him in mid-way through an Ashes series,he must be on the radar surely,he was called up as Roy's cover so he has to be knocking on the door.
20-3 Burns gone now to a short ball,this is madness,we might even trail on 1st innings at this rate.
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Roy might not want to play test cricket anyway. Has anyone actually asked him that?
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
I know it's easy to slag Roy off and his technique but if Burns opens you need to balance it with an attack minded batter.
You can't just let bowling attacks bowl at you.
The entire batting line up looks out of nick though, which is a big problem.
You can't just let bowling attacks bowl at you.
The entire batting line up looks out of nick though, which is a big problem.
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3 down, another play at a ball that could be left. I can imagine Geoffrey will be going spare at what he is seeing......
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Re: England v Australia 3rd Ashes Test
Without doubt the two worst batting line ups in test cricket
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179 looks a huge total to chase down at the moment
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Worse than Afghanistan or Zimbabwe??Stproc wrote:Without doubt the two worst batting line ups in test cricket
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Ben Stokes - what an awful shot
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If England need anything towards 200 in the last innings I fear the Ashes will be lost!
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I was gonna take it steady tomorrow and not start on the booze till lunch as thought it might be a long afternoon with play finishing around 7pm. The way this is going gonna be getting straight on it when we meet for Breaky in the Oak early doors!!