Keith Treacy article in Irish Indep.
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Keith Treacy article in Irish Indep.
Thankfully seems to be getting over his demons......good luck to him.
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I was surprised to read that he is only 30. Should still have a few years left in him if he can get his sharpness back.
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I never took to Keith after seeing him out celebrating scoring against us for Preston.
Key st in Clitheroe and he could barely stand up. Taking all the applause and compliments from the Rovers fans.
He was poor at Burnley with the odd glimmer of hope he could come good, a big ego to go with it apparently and he was adamant Dyche would come crawling with a contract renewal after the Player of the year awards do.
But it's great to see him off the booze for his families sake.
Key st in Clitheroe and he could barely stand up. Taking all the applause and compliments from the Rovers fans.
He was poor at Burnley with the odd glimmer of hope he could come good, a big ego to go with it apparently and he was adamant Dyche would come crawling with a contract renewal after the Player of the year awards do.
But it's great to see him off the booze for his families sake.
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I'm not sure how much he could have been celebrating after throwing away a two goal lead to lose, unless I'm forgetting another goal he scored for them against us?Quickenthetempo wrote:I never took to Keith after seeing him out celebrating scoring against us for Preston.
Key st in Clitheroe and he could barely stand up. Taking all the applause and compliments from the Rovers fans.
He was poor at Burnley with the odd glimmer of hope he could come good, a big ego to go with it apparently and he was adamant Dyche would come crawling with a contract renewal after the Player of the year awards do.
But it's great to see him off the booze for his families sake.
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"I was finished early, my career was finished when Eddie Howe was there (Burnley). Sean Dyche resurrected me, Eddie Howe had more or less finished me off. When Sean Dyche came in he lifted me to a level I didn't think I had, but a contract offer fell through and I lost that hunger again."
Interesting to know. Shows what a great manager is.
Interesting to know. Shows what a great manager is.
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Do you not think players celebrate personal glory?Fretters wrote:I'm not sure how much he could have been celebrating after throwing away a two goal lead to lose, unless I'm forgetting another goal he scored for them against us?
It's only like former Clarets scoring against Blackburn, Burnley fans love it.
How much he was celebrating I couldn't tell you, but it looked like he had been on a 3 day bender about 4 hours after a match.
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Quickenthetempo wrote:Do you not think players celebrate personal glory?
It's only like former Clarets scoring against Blackburn, Burnley fans love it.
How much he was celebrating I couldn't tell you, but it looked like he had been on a 3 day bender about 4 hours after a match.
I believe the match got in the way on regular occasions
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Wish him all the very best and really pleased to hear that he’s been able to get his life sorted out.
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One of the most technically gifted I've seen. A real shame.
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http://greenscene.me/2011/08/keith-trea ... o-burnley/
Nailed the Barnes celebration years ahead of time.
Nailed the Barnes celebration years ahead of time.
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I agree had something really good about him and no doubt a talented player
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He promised much but delivered rarely....
When he was at Rovers I got called out to let a young lady back into the apartment she and Keith shared at Brockhall after she had locked herself out. Obviously the girl that went on to be his wife.
Hope he sorts himself out ... still a relatively young player with talent (assuming he lets that side come out*)
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When he was at Rovers I got called out to let a young lady back into the apartment she and Keith shared at Brockhall after she had locked herself out. Obviously the girl that went on to be his wife.
Hope he sorts himself out ... still a relatively young player with talent (assuming he lets that side come out*)
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What a horrible thing to say about someone with mental health issues. Shocking.Bosscat wrote:and not the arrogant alcohol fuelled fool he had become)
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Apologies Tony have edited it out.....ClaretTony wrote:What a horrible thing to say about someone with mental health issues. Shocking.
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Seen a youtube interview with him where he basically says he didn't enjoy playing at all and a lot of the time he was holding back rather than playing the game he was naturally capable of. Really big shame and I hope as others have said he is in a better place now and does not come to have big regrets later in life.
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It's a shame Eddie didn't have the professional understanding and patience of Keith's problems as obviously Sean did. I really hope Keith can get back into the game.
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Treacy's own quote here:
Clubs treated him poorly but he also looks within. It's back to the theme of too much too young. He'd achieved his goals early and lacked the desire to carry on.
"I was always motivated by fear, I was afraid of Mark Hughes or Sean Dyche or Souness. Eddie Howe tried the other way, he was nice to me and he never got anything out of me, I didn't have that fear factor," Treacy says of his former managers.
Clearly, Howe couldnt get anything out of him given his style, but I'm not sure all the blame lies with Howe.
Clubs treated him poorly but he also looks within. It's back to the theme of too much too young. He'd achieved his goals early and lacked the desire to carry on.
"I was always motivated by fear, I was afraid of Mark Hughes or Sean Dyche or Souness. Eddie Howe tried the other way, he was nice to me and he never got anything out of me, I didn't have that fear factor," Treacy says of his former managers.
Clearly, Howe couldnt get anything out of him given his style, but I'm not sure all the blame lies with Howe.
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I recall when we signed him, then Preston manager Phil Brown said Eddie Howe wouldn't be good for him and wouldn't be able to handle him. I know Brown had issues with Howe but he was proved right and I believe the situation between Howe and Treacy was awful. I think we saw the result of that when he scored at Bournemouth.beddie wrote:It's a shame Eddie didn't have the professional understanding and patience of Keith's problems as obviously Sean did. I really hope Keith can get back into the game.
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There are two things I remember from that game against Preston:
1. an impressive Treacy
2. that female Preston fan crying her heart out after the game
1. an impressive Treacy
2. that female Preston fan crying her heart out after the game
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A serious topic about a player who has suffered with mental illness and some posters still cant help but use it as an opportunity to slag off Eddie Howe - Pathetic
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Just for the record.
Eddie is carving a decent career out in the premier league without being horrible or nasty to Keith.
Eddie is carving a decent career out in the premier league without being horrible or nasty to Keith.
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SD obviously comes out of this with great credit and it's a perfect example of why he's an exceptional manager.
However it's grossly unfair to criticise EH unless you're someone who happens to be ITK and has actually managed someone with mental health issues. It's an incredibly difficult and complex area and however hard you try to do what you think is the right thing there's no guarantee it actually is the right thing because each situation can and does have its own individual - possibly unique - circumstances.
However it's grossly unfair to criticise EH unless you're someone who happens to be ITK and has actually managed someone with mental health issues. It's an incredibly difficult and complex area and however hard you try to do what you think is the right thing there's no guarantee it actually is the right thing because each situation can and does have its own individual - possibly unique - circumstances.
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You see this in all walks of life. A good manager or rather good man manager will get the best out of any character type.Papabendi wrote:Treacy's own quote here:
Clubs treated him poorly but he also looks within. It's back to the theme of too much too young. He'd achieved his goals early and lacked the desire to carry on.
"I was always motivated by fear, I was afraid of Mark Hughes or Sean Dyche or Souness. Eddie Howe tried the other way, he was nice to me and he never got anything out of me, I didn't have that fear factor," Treacy says of his former managers.
Clearly, Howe couldnt get anything out of him given his style, but I'm not sure all the blame lies with Howe.
Some are only capable of managing in their comfort zone though
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Perhaps we could get Sean Dyche to have a look at the Irish backstop problem.Papabendi wrote:Treacy's own quote here:
Clubs treated him poorly but he also looks within. It's back to the theme of too much too young. He'd achieved his goals early and lacked the desire to carry on.
"I was always motivated by fear, I was afraid of Mark Hughes or Sean Dyche or Souness. Eddie Howe tried the other way, he was nice to me and he never got anything out of me, I didn't have that fear factor," Treacy says of his former managers.
Clearly, Howe couldnt get anything out of him given his style, but I'm not sure all the blame lies with Howe.
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I liked to watch Keith Treacy. He was exceptional.
However, he was not exceptional as often as he could have been, for sad reasons.
Howe wrote him off. Dyche did not.
However, he was not exceptional as often as he could have been, for sad reasons.
Howe wrote him off. Dyche did not.
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That goal he scored against us was a cracker.
Thought he had bags of talent and that 400k was a steal. Real shame for him it didn't work out for him (and us, of course)
Thought he had bags of talent and that 400k was a steal. Real shame for him it didn't work out for him (and us, of course)
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Not disputing that Dyche handled Treacy’s problems better than Howe, but from memory he started less than 10 games in his season and a half under Dyche and was released when his contract expired.
Let’s not get too sentimental about all this. It was no movie-script reincarnation.
I’m glad he seems to be overcoming his problems though.
Let’s not get too sentimental about all this. It was no movie-script reincarnation.
I’m glad he seems to be overcoming his problems though.
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Many of us on this board will have had in the past , or are having presently, mental health problems without being very talented at anything in particular. KT was undoubtedly an extremely talented footballer and it must be so frustrating to realise that because of other issues, that talent is not being fulfilled. Managing such an individual will never be an easy task and given the pressures in modern day football for managers and players alike, it will inevitably mean that some will not fulfill their potential.
Hope KT builds a good life for himself.
Hope KT builds a good life for himself.
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