Ash for England?

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:23 pm

Has to be u see consideration with this form?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:28 pm

You DO know he’s Austrian right?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:28 pm

bobinho wrote:You DO know he’s Austrian right?

But he's not played any games for them

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:31 pm

bobinho wrote:You DO know he’s Austrian right?

He’s English

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:31 pm

I am sure he is Irish .........

ClaretSteve · Post by **ClaretSteve** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:32 pm

He’s any nationality he wants

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:34 pm

If Barnes says he wants to play for Brazil, the rules will be changed for Barnes.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:34 pm

bobinho wrote:You DO know he’s Austrian right?

Well since he had his application for his Austrian passport rejected and both his parents are English then I guess he can play for England

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:40 pm

Tribesmen wrote:I am sure he is Irish .........

He was born in Bath and has a strong West Country accent

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:18 pm

Are you mad?

He doesn't play for "a big club"

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:30 pm

fanzone wrote:Are you mad?

He doesn't play for "a big club"

Yeh well my thinking was that remember at the start of last season Glen Murray was scoring a few for Brighton and there were calls for him to be selected

4 in 3

Just sayin

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:37 pm

When Abraham scored 2 for Chelsea, the chance was gone. Even though our Ashley is twice the player.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:50 pm

fanzone wrote:Are you mad?

He doesn't play for "a big club"

Neither did Tom, Pope, Tarks. Mee ought to follow.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:51 pm

Barnes' Premier League stats since the turn of the year
Goals scored: 13 (third most)

Shots on target: 27 (second most)

Big chances: 20 (second most)

Duels won: 182 (second most)

Aerial duels won: 110 (fifth most)

Chances created: 13

Shot conversion rate: 29.55%

Barnes keeping pace with Aguero & Mane

To say Barnes has enjoyed a productive 2019 would be an understatement and perhaps an insult to his attacking prowess, as he is very much keeping pace with some of the division's most potent finishers.

As it stands, only Liverpool's Sadio Mane and Manchester City's Sergio Aguero have found the onion bag more times than Barnes since the turn of the year, with the duo netting 15 and 16 goals respectively to the Englishman's 13.

Dissecting that statistic a little further reveals the true scope of Barnes' insatiable form: he has outscored the likes of Mohamed Salah, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Harry Kane, despite not possessing the world class talent behind him to unlock doors and create countless chances.

But any fear that this stellar spell was just a flash in the pan has been well-and-truly dispelled in these formative Premier League stages, with the 29-year-old already boasting four goals to his name, while having the fourth-best goals per 90 minutes ratio (1.4) and best shots per 90 (4.6 for players with 200+ minutes).

What's even more impressive is not just Barnes' form in front of goal, but his overall gameplay, with the old school forward possessing that Diego Costa-esque bullishness which gives defenders nightmares for weeks.

Indeed, traditional No 9s are in vogue at the minute, and Barnes is a standard-bearer of these throwback centre-forwards, but if he keeps up his sensational form, he could be this season's surprise Golden Boot package.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:53 pm

I’d love to see it but it would be a sad state of affairs if England didn’t have better options.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:54 pm

Selfishly I hope not, there is the injury risk plus his head could get turned. I don't think he is a Southgate style player either.

Rumpelstiltskin · Post by **Rumpelstiltskin** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:26 pm

If he played for another club he would probably be in contention for an England call up...Not while he is a Burnley payer...No one likes us etc...

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:31 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:I’d love to see it but it would be a sad state of affairs if England didn’t have better options.

Best buy you a box of Kleenex then!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:38 pm

he's far too aggressive for international footy nowadays

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:he's far too aggressive for international footy nowadays

Aye and thats why we love him. Crouch was so complimentary about him.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:03 pm

There was even a ManUre fan on the 5live phone in on Sunday evening saying they would like him playing for them.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:05 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:Best buy you a box of Kleenex then!

Why’s that then?

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:23 pm

fanzone wrote:Are you mad? He doesn't play for "a big club"

Should he keep playing/scoring like he is, he might well do come next January

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:44 pm

I can't find it now but the other day I saw a rumour that Spurs are interested in Ashley Barnes

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:47 pm

mkmel wrote:I can't find it now but the other day I saw a rumour that Spurs are interested in Ashley Barnes

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.foot ... arget/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:59 pm

Stayingup wrote:Aye and thats why we love him. Crouch was so complimentary about him.

agree 100%, he represents everything I love about football, however FIFA prefer pony tailed wankers who fall over at the slightest touch.

Fenwick · Post by **Fenwick** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:08 pm

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theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:14 pm

bobinho wrote:You DO know he’s Austrian right?

Hes british ya tit

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:21 pm

Yeah, I know he’s British, but he qualified to play for Austria (like loveable cockney Tony Cascarino qualified for the Republic of Ireland cos he’d once been on a stag do in Dublin) and I think they came to look at him.

Obviously nothing materialised...

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:22 pm

Moneyball style player. His statistics are fantastic and if you actually pay close attention to his contributions on the pitch there is no denying he has fantastic skill and technique. But luckily for us he’s not very fashionable, I don’t know the reasons why, but he’s unlikely to attract the top clubs or indeed the England manager.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:10 am

Rileybobs wrote:Moneyball style player. His statistics are fantastic and if you actually pay close attention to his contributions on the pitch there is no denying he has fantastic skill and technique. But luckily for us he’s not very fashionable, I don’t know the reasons why, but he’s unlikely to attract the top clubs or indeed the England manager.

Agreed. If his name was Barninho having signed from Corinthians for 15m I am sure the league and pundits would be wetting themselves over him.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:23 am

bobinho wrote:Yeah, I know he’s British, but he qualified to play for Austria (like loveable cockney Tony Cascarino qualified for the Republic of Ireland cos he’d once been on a stag do in Dublin) and I think they came to look at him.

Obviously nothing materialised...

I thought I'd read somewhere that the Austria thing didn't materialise because he didn't actually meet the rules for qualification

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:26 am

Vegas Claret wrote:I thought I'd read somewhere that the Austria thing didn't materialise because he didn't actually meet the rules for qualification

By most modern rules he did but not by the right wing Austrian rules. This is acceptable because Ash doesn’t play right wing.

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:05 am

This is a stupid as them Norwich fans who think Barcelona are going to nab Pukki off them as he’s scored a few in the first couple of games of the seasons. Barnes won’t play for England while at Burnley that’s for sure. He’s too old now anyway. Southgate will play Abraham, even though he’s nowhere near good enough, but he plays for ‘Frank Lampard’s Chelsea’ as they are now known.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:46 am

Don't think he will play for England while with us and I don't want him to. Don't want him in the shop window. He's our golden goose that keeps giving (I never thought I'd say that at one time) and I don't want anything to spoil what we've got going on just now.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:03 am

If the ash before the oak
Then we shall have a soak
But if the oak before the ash
Then we shall have a splash

I expect the Ash has had his day for a Cap
Unless it was from Holland

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:19 pm

bobinho wrote:Yeah, I know he’s British, but he qualified to play for Austria (like loveable cockney Tony Cascarino qualified for the Republic of Ireland cos he’d once been on a stag do in Dublin) and I think they came to look at him.

Obviously nothing materialised...

A bit like Andy Townsend who uses phrases like 'us and we' when covering England games

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:28 pm

Not sure he is an England style striker. If he starts notching a lot of goals this season ( early days yet) he won’t be ignored though. His all round game suits us and I personally like a ‘Costa’ like centre forward.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:15 am

If he did play for England, it would remind me of Steve Bull playing.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:43 am

I think it would be an advantage as a striker, that he offers something no other England forward does. Bringing like for like strikers on doesn't frighten the opposition. I'd try him, but I dont think Southgate will.
I'd also be seriously worried about holding onto him, if he ever did.