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Team v Sunderland

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:45 pm

Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Benson Koiki
Rodriguez Vydra
Subs
Barnes Cork Westwood Hart Wood and McNeil

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Aclaret » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:48 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Benson Koiki
Rodriguez Vydra
Subs
Barnes Cork Westwood Hart Wood and McNeil
Can't see Hart being happy playing second fiddle to a rookie from Leeds.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:49 pm

Drinkwater if Chelsea allow

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:49 pm

No Drinkwater or Brady or Defour???

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:51 pm

Hart
Bards Gibson long Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater* Brady*
jayrod vydra

** if fit subs if not
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:53 pm

Vydra starts, definitely.
Drinkwater comes to the bench, definitely.
Pope is 'rested' (had bugger all to do I know) - definitely. I'd go with Hart.
Taylor starts - definitely.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:56 pm

Drinkwater needs to start and not be dropped.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:57 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Drinkwater needs to start and not be dropped.
He may well do, but I'd be surprised. I think SD will bring him in possibly giving him 45 minutes.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:14 pm

FactualFrank wrote:He may well do, but I'd be surprised. I think SD will bring him in possibly giving him 45 minutes.
I suspect he will get the full 90 mins on Weds. Dyche said he is at the end of his personal pre-season now which means SD believes he is 90 mins fit.

So it is: Hart; Bardsley, Long, Gibson, Taylor; Lennon; Drinkwater, Hendrick, Brady (45 mins); Rodriguez, Vydra. 11 changes with no u23s used!!!

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:16 pm

Jesus. He’s the best player we have, maybe in my lifetime have ever had and people are debating putting him
I’m against a L1 side.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:17 pm

bfcmik wrote:I suspect he will get the full 90 mins on Weds. Dyche said he is at the end of his personal pre-season now which means SD believes he is 90 mins fit.
I hope so. However, I don't think he'll start vs Liverpool, regardless.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:20 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I hope so. However, I don't think he'll start vs Liverpool, regardless.
Agreed with you. He should do thought. He’s miles better than what we have.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:21 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Jesus. He’s the best player we have, maybe in my lifetime have ever had and people are debating putting him
I’m against a L1 side.
How old are you? 1?
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Squarepusher » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:22 pm

I'd quite happily see us make 11 changes for this one if we can.
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:24 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:How old are you? 1?
Older than you bla bla bla

But to give you an answer. 37. We’ve had no £35m premier league winners on in my lifetime watching burnley.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by SGr » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:26 pm

Danny Drinkwater at central midfield. That’s all I want to see.
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:26 pm

Hart,
Bardsley, Long, Gibson, Pieters
Lennon, Benson, Drinkwater (if allowed ), Brady (if fit)
Rodriguez, Vydra

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:26 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Agreed with you. He should do thought. He’s miles better than what we have.
I think it's a part of man management and when you're working with players face to face, morale and how a player feels plays a HUGE part. Sure - he can decide to throw out Cork and bring in Drinkwater, but it's not that straightforward and it's not going to go down well when Drinkwater has never started for us in a game.

Drinkwater needs to come on, maybe even a few times in a Prem game and show what he can do. Then SD has something to justify his decision.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:28 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I think it's a part of man management and when you're working with players face to face, morale and how a player feels plays a HUGE part. Sure - he can decide to throw out Cork and bring in Drinkwater, but it's not that straightforward and it's not going to go down well when Drinkwater has never started for us in a game.

Drinkwater needs to come on, maybe even a few times in a Prem game and show what he can do. Then SD has something to justify his decision.
Agreed. But why sign a 35m league winner if you aren’t willing to put peoples noses out.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by tim_noone » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:30 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Jesus. He’s the best player we have, maybe in my lifetime have ever had and people are debating putting him
I’m against a L1 side.
:o Jesus ?
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:32 pm

Right. I’m 37. Been watching for 27 years. Who have we had who is better.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:35 pm

Dyche said in his interview on Friday that Drinkwater would be in for the game on Weds

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:37 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Right. I’m 37. Been watching for 27 years. Who have we had who is better.
Defour
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:38 pm

Impossible to say if he's better or worse anyway really, he hasn't played a game for us.

The amount of money he was sold for 2(?) years ago, and the fact he was part of a side that won the PL are interesting but unfortunately not the be all and end all. The Drinkwater who won the title with Leicester would undoubtedly be the best player in the team but who's to say he hasn't got worse in the time he's been at Chelsea, not playing.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:38 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Right. I’m 37. Been watching for 27 years. Who have we had who is better.
In your lifetime no-one!

In my lifetime though, I have seen players such as Martin Dobson, Jimmy McIlroy, Trevor Steven, Doug Collins, Martin O'Niell and many others who were as good as Drinkwater - especially if we look at Drinkwater's stats since LCFC won the PL

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:42 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Defour
Superb player.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by jedi_master » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:45 pm

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Hendrick Brady (if fit?)
Vydra Rodriguez
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:47 pm

jedi_master wrote:Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Hendrick Brady (if fit?)
Vydra Rodriguez
That is some second eleven.
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:48 pm

Quicknick wrote:That is some second eleven.
Imagine if we could select defour too

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:37 pm

Lennon and JR offered nothing today hopefully they will find some form.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:44 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:Lennon and JR offered nothing today hopefully they will find some form.
We'll never see the Lennon of Spurs, darting down the wing. Why? Not completely sure as wasn't it against Bournemouth when he sprinted like Usain Bolt to set up a goal?
Perhaps Dyche originally did order him to dart down the wing and knew his legs, overall, had gone and he just couldn't do it.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:04 pm

bfcmik wrote:Martin O'Niell and many others who were as good as Drinkwater - especially if we look at Drinkwater's stats since LCFC won the PL
Brian O’Neil was way better.
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:12 pm

I've seen enough of Drinkwater to know he has a better technical ability, vision, control and passing than Westwood or Cork.

He will be on the bench for a few games though, and rightly so.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:17 pm

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Hendrick McNeil (needs to find some form)
Vydra Rodriguez

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Hendrick McNeil (needs to find some form)
Vydra Rodriguez
If we start with that 11 then my cock's a kipper.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:39 pm

FactualFrank wrote:If we start with that 11 then my cock's a kipper.
I agree, but this thread is about who we would like to see play not who we think will play !!

I'll not comment on your other issue :lol:

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by EarbyClaret » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:35 am

Drinkwater to start and assuming all goes well on the bench Saturday. Taylor also with a chance to stake a claim for a PL start. Good opportunity for Jay and Lennon too. They've been criticised by some for their contributions in the last two games but on both occasions have come on at a stage where midfield control has passed to the opposition so very difficult to make a meaningful impression.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:02 am

Outside chance for Richardson and Benson on the bench too, perhaps?

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by MDWat » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:03 am

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Rodriguez Vydra

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by LoveCurryPies » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:16 am

I would play Drinkwater from the start. Sean needs to see what he brings to the team and as soon as possible. Preferably for a full 90 mins or pull him off if he tires.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:28 am

Aclaret wrote:Can't see Hart being happy playing second fiddle to a rookie from Leeds.
Tough ****, I'd be happy
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:51 am

MDWat wrote:Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Drinkwater Brady
Rodriguez Vydra
This

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:59 am

Gibson wasn't on the bench yesterday, is he injured?

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Bosscat » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:09 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:I would play Drinkwater from the start. Sean needs to see what he brings to the team and as soon as possible. Preferably for a full 90 mins or pull him off if he tires.
Sean has seen what he can bring to the team .... in the under 23's game last Monday and the game on Thursday at Barnfield v AFC Fylde.....

I reckon DD (or as Sean calls him Drinky) will start on Wednesday

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:18 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:I would play Drinkwater from the start. Sean needs to see what he brings to the team and as soon as possible. Preferably for a full 90 mins or pull him off if he tires.
Too much expectation is being heaped on this lad already. He is a journeyman footballer who was an important part of a very successful “one season wonder” Leicester team. He played alongside N’Golo Kanté and had the speed of Jamie Vardy and Riyad Mahrez to turn his passes into worldies. He played for England 3 times on the strength of it.

Chelsea have only played him 12 times over 2 seasons since and are now looking to off-load him.

I really, really hope that Danny will be a huge success for us under Sean Dyche, but I fear that, if he does resurrect his Leicester City form, he will be sold on by Chelsea in January.

In the meantime we should welcome him as we do most other new signings and let him earn his Claret shirt before we hail him as the new Messiah.
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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:23 am

Well two better players would be Wright and Gaza although not when they were playing for us and Drinkwater was excellent but only time will tell if he still is
Had a long time out and has had personal issues so only time will tell how good he is now

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by turfytopper » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:04 pm

Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Benson Hendrick
Vydra Rodriguez

Make that 11 changes.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by tim_noone » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:59 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:I would play Drinkwater from the start. Sean needs to see what he brings to the team and as soon as possible. Preferably for a full 90 mins or pull him off if he tires.
Also Vydra......

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:00 pm

I'd be inclined to play Wood in the hope that he finds his shooting boots to restore a bit of confidence within himself.

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Re: Team v Sunderland

Post by Bosscat » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:01 pm

turfytopper wrote:Hart
Bardsley Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Drinkwater Benson Hendrick
Vydra Rodriguez

Make that 11 changes.
Not such a bad call tt m8 I wouldn't mind watching that team Wednesday evening ;)
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