soft penalties spoiling the game

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soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by claretnproud » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:56 pm

lost count of how many soft penalties we have conceded now in last season or 2. No good bringing in var etc when the attacking team is looking for contact continuously. I wonder how many points we have lost from this during that period?

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:59 pm

Lots usually v Arsenal and PNE
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:19 pm

How many soft ones have we had in last 5 seaons?

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:29 pm

mdd2 wrote:How many soft ones have we had in last 5 seaons?
Vokes handball at Swansea!
Ashley Barnes being wiped out by the Southampton keeper ----oh wait ---he got booked for diving!

It will all even out with VAR, the saviour of the game which, it is obvious, stops all discussion about the actual game because everyone just talks about VAR now.
Goals like the Man City one last week can be disallowed because the ball brushed the attacking player's arm, however, if it had brushed the defender's arm, it would not have been given as a penalty but, if the ball had continued as it did, the goal would have stood. Great logic!

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:39 pm

I blame it all on the invention on the video recordings that let pundits debate the officials decisions and then joe public gets involved and we demand better decisions that benefit us but not them, refusing to accept the officials who officiate may get it wrong.
When I rewrite the rules of the game rule 1 will be only the Captain can speak to the referee and no one other than the referee can speak to the refs assistants. Penalty a straight red card and six game ban which should allow refs to do their jobs unimpeded
No VAR or goal line technology
But all that is pie in the sky sadly
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:48 pm

mdd2 wrote:I blame it all on the invention on the video recordings that let pundits debate the officials decisions and then joe public gets involved and we demand better decisions that benefit us but not them, refusing to accept the officials who officiate may get it wrong.
When I rewrite the rules of the game rule 1 will be only the Captain can speak to the referee and no one other than the referee can speak to the refs assistants. Penalty a straight red card and six game ban which should allow refs to do their jobs unimpeded
No VAR or goal line technology
But all that is pie in the sky sadly
They would then be arguing about which pies in the sky are the best!
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:56 pm

No contest due to the pea soup fog
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Spijed » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:17 pm

The problem is often that slow motion replays make the contact look far worse than it actually is.

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by RammyClaret61 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:54 am

But all contact is not a foul.
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:11 am

Rammy has it.

The phrase I hate is, "There was clearly contact!"
So what? That doesn't make it a foul.

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:50 am

I think soft free kicks and cards have ruined the game more than the occasional soft penalty. I find it bizarre you can’t really challenge a goalkeeper in the air, they just fall over and know they will get the free kick.

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Sproggy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:07 am

JimmyRobbo wrote:Rammy has it.

The phrase I hate is, "There was clearly contact!"
So what? That doesn't make it a foul.
....closely followed by "he was entitled to go down".
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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by Bullabill » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:18 am

JimmyRobbo »

"Rammy has it."

No, he doesn't. He would have if he'd said 'Not all contact is a foul'.

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by houseboy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:36 am

JimmyRobbo wrote:Rammy has it.

The phrase I hate is, "There was clearly contact!"
So what? That doesn't make it a foul.
Agree with this exactly. Contact doesn't matter - the question is was it a foul - to the best of my knowledge football is a contact sport and touching a player, anywhere on the pitch, has never been made illegal as far as I know. Hate that phrase. Before long penalties will be awarded for players being offended at another player invading their 'personal space'. What happened to the 'man's game'?

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:38 pm

Sproggy wrote:....closely followed by "he was entitled to go down".
Sproggy that is exactly what I was going to type.

I despise it.

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Re: soft penalties spoiling the game

Post by thelaughingclaret » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:36 pm

Hendricks at United at the one on Sunday are two that spring to mind. When it gets late on and the opposition need a goal they are all looking for any kind of contact as now contact is a penalty. Don’t give the referee(s) a decision to make! Don’t touch them. If they score they score but if you touch them it’s a certain pen and probably a certain goal. This is something Dyche really needs to work on with the players. That is when Dyche isn’t at festivals the day before games of course.

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