burnleymik wrote:To be fair to Dyche this team should be stomping Sunderland into the ground. Not sure how you can lay this one at Dyche's door.

We have no idea what preparation or research he does on lower league opposition but this has happened so consistently it has to be laid at his door.

I delayed setting sail to Fiji so that I could watch the BBC Sport text-reports on line whilst I still had internet; I wish I'd set sail last night now (we're at Thursday morning here already)

Please let there not be 7 minutes of added time

Gibson manages to head the ball high and over, from our corner.....again.

An absolute disgrace of a performance, I just hope Dyche doesn't fudge over it.
Embarrassing

IanMcL wrote:This team should have won easily.
Questions.....

Agreed we made 10 changes,but Sunderland made 8,you would expect our back-up to be superior to a League 1 side,that's worrying if we pick up injuries.

Love Dyche to bits, but you'd be mad to not be laying our Cup form on his door.

League One 2nd String Sunderland, following equally rank losses against Accy, Lincoln, Burton and there's others I am forgetting (Port Vale?).

He doesn't want to be in these Cups and you can't help but wonder what discussions are held in the lead up to these games. I am not suggesting we are throwing these, but there's something not right.

A lot of 3/10 performances

It's all over. Embarrassing.

No wonder Long didn't get in the Sunderland team!

I am like you all very disappointed but it’s not Dyche’s fault

Maybe our squad is not as strong as we thought

So I guess our regular first eleven don’t have to worry too much about keeping their places

Burnley 1 Sunderland 3

one priority for sean dyche, and one only .premier league football, and rightly so.

IanMcL wrote:No wonder Long didn't get in the Sunderland team!

What because he wasn't there?

Dyche is 100% responsible for this. He picks the team, sorts the tactics, and motivates the players. He consistently fails to do this properly against inferior opposition in the Cups.

Lord Beamish wrote:Sunderland at Home should’ve been as good as a bye into the next round. If we can’t make a serious attempt at a run in the Cups whilst our stick is so high, then we never will. It’s a recipe for stagnation.

This attitude of let's just finish 17th every year and not bother with the cups will eventually be our downfall. Reminds me of West Brom under Pulis getting to 40 points and downing tools every season.

Was Dyche in attendance, or did he not bother turning up either?

A shameful night.

Madge not happy either. She has changed and is off back to her shoebox.

Bit ashamed to be honest...... thought we put out a decent team tonight, certainly up to the task, we ought to be though being a fairly established top flight team.

Ah well.

We'll forget all this after beating Liverpool on Saturday.

UTC!!

jrgbfc wrote:This attitude of let's just finish 17th every year and not bother with the cups will eventually be our downfall. Reminds me of West Brom under Pulis getting to 40 points and downing tools every season.

apart from when we finished 7th

Tribesmen wrote:Evening all from a very changeably Galway i must say .
So tonight i have a feeling it will end like most of these cup games in defeat , now it might go to pens but we will go out on the night , you know just for a change .

I told yer ....................

Think I’d rather this club pay a substantial fine than see us play another easily winnable league cup tie again.

Wile E Coyote wrote:one priority for sean dyche, and one only .premier league football, and rightly so.

I can't see how losing to so-called inferior cup opposition does anything to help our PL form TBH.

Thank christ there was no stream for me. Meant I drank more.

Please can we draw City away in the FA Cup again rather than lose to AFC Bury.

Defensive hoof ball style doesn’t work when you need to break down a defensive side, Pulis used to trump Dyche by parking the bus because we’re hopeless at ripping sides open. Absolute zero flair in attack, zero movement.

Can I ask all those who supported Hart when I was critiquing him last season please step forward and go again... he’s not good enough.

Wile E Coyote wrote:

Think you misunderstood. Not calling you a loser. Was implying “the club aren't bothered about this comp” is the attitude losers have.

I don’t personally believe our club think like that. But any club that does, isn’t going to achieve very much. Play to win!

jrgbfc wrote:This attitude of let's just finish 17th every year and not bother with the cups will eventually be our downfall. Reminds me of West Brom under Pulis getting to 40 points and downing tools every season.

Quite. The fans need something to cheer about. Of course a club like ours competing in the Premier League is great, but the novelty can and will wear off. A decent crack at the cup would give fans something to cheer about. There's always the FA cup...

We are concentrating on the league
Joe Hart in goal was always a recipe for disaster

So disappointing, I felt we finally had the squad depth, with that team that was out, to actually try in the cups this season.

The positive is, I understand 2,000 Sunderland fans turned up, only 5,000 of the faithful had their money robbed from them.

Rick_Muller wrote:Can I ask all those who supported Hart when I was critiquing him last season please step forward and go again... he’s not good enough.

They won't do that Rick - not until Pope makes an error, you know the score.

Wile E Coyote wrote:apart from when we finished 7th

Which was a complete freak.

Lord Beamish wrote:Dyche is 100% responsible for this. He picks the team, sorts the tactics, and motivates the players. He consistently fails to do this properly against inferior opposition in the Cups.

Surely questions need to be asked of the fringe players though? You'd think they would take the opportunity to impress and try and force their way into the starting eleven. Very disappointing.

Still if he keeps us up for another season don't think many people will care about the usual league cup ignominy

No surprise to be honest. Didn’t expect to be in the draw.

Too much possession!

Its a mentality thing. We lack it in Cups. Surprising as SD always goes on about player mentality Because of this attribute Forest Green held Bournemouth

On a positive it provides a few home truths-Hart & Vydra ????

Can't work out Chris Bodens updates-stating we played well

I was brought up in an era when the cups meant something, it’s sad that football is all about the league these days

LoveCurryPies wrote:Think you misunderstood. Not calling you a loser. Was implying “the club aren't bothered about this comp” is the attitude losers have.

I don’t personally believe our club think like that. But any club that does, isn’t going to achieve very much. Play to win!

I understood, but you watch Burnley and you know how committed they are to winning.The team are renowned for their hard work and effort.
Losing in this game tonight is irrelevant to the scheme of things.

SonofPog wrote:So disappointing, I felt we finally had the squad depth, with that team that was out, to actually try in the cups this season.

Tonight shows that we do not have that depth in the squad many of us thought.
which ever way you look at it Sunderland Reserves were better than our Reserves.

JohnDearyMe wrote:Surely questions need to be asked of the fringe players though? You'd think they would take the opportunity to impress and try and force their way into the starting eleven. Very disappointing.

Still if he keeps us up for another season don't think many people will care about the usual league cup ignominy

Even if we’d have won tonight, there was probably only McNeil in the starting 11 who would’ve started on Saturday.

jrgbfc wrote:Which was a complete freak.

any credibility your point has, just went straight down the bog with that comment.

Again 50 million on that pitch tonight - embarrassing or bad buys

The 1st eleven can sleep easily, that's for sure. What an opportunity tonight for our fringe players to give the Manager something to think about. Genuinely surprised at this result.

warksclaret wrote:Can't work out Chris Bodens updates-stating we played well

Did he tweet that at half time?

At least we will be on Sunderland part 3

Dyche put out a team that was more than capable of winning this game. He fielded players that many on here have demanded be given a chance. We were 1 up and Vydra hit the post from 4 yards. Game probably game over if that went in. Yet there is a constant conspiracy belief he doesn’t care about the Cups. Of course he does.
Most of them have confirmed why they’re not first choice on Saturday. At least that’s been clarified.
Move on . We have been a vast improvement in the league this season and that’s the most important upward trend.
And no I didn’t go tonight as i’m in Bournemouth. They managed to thrash Forest Green Rovers on penalties. The EFL cup us what it is. Get over it.