REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

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REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:17 am

Burnley v Sunderland report

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:48 pm

Good report but what is worrying is how much had been spent on those 11 players who played and wages - no wonder the board will not sanction anymore big spending.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:58 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Good report but what is worrying is how much had been spent on those 11 players who played and wages - no wonder the board will not sanction anymore big spending.
What rubbish.

Are you suggesting the board don't trust SD on spending money?

By your logic any Premier league side that gets knocked out by lower league opposition has a manager who isn't any good at buying players!

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:00 pm

Spijed wrote:What rubbish.

Are you suggesting the board don't trust SD on spending money?

By your logic any Premier league side that gets knocked out by lower league opposition has a manager who isn't any good at buying players!

Er yes i do as the amount of money those players cost for a club of our size should be pushing for a regular 1st team spot - these are way off

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Braindead » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:02 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Er yes i do as the amount of money those players cost for a club of our size should be pushing for a regular 1st team spot - these are way off
Well seven of them are in the first team squad every week are they not......?

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:05 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Good report but what is worrying is how much had been spent on those 11 players who played and wages - no wonder the board will not sanction anymore big spending.
You do spout some crap don’t you? Bet you loved it last night, losing to Sunderland so you could have yet anothe go.
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:06 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Er yes i do as the amount of money those players cost for a club of our size should be pushing for a regular 1st team spot - these are way off
Do you really think the board would risk alienating the best manager in decades?

Funny how they sanctioned the spending on Wood, Brady, Hendrick, Vydra etc.

As for players being way off, what do you think of the squads of Palace, Everton & Bournemouth as they clearly struggled as well?

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You do spout some crap don’t you? Bet you loved it last night, losing to Sunderland so you could have yet anothe go.
Not really just commenting on the money that has been given and spent and none pushing for a regular spot - not good for the club at all

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:16 pm

Surely any "big money" spent would be to improve the current first XI - not for squad building.

Anyway, as I have just put on the match ratings thread, I am still struggling to get my head around that second half performance after a first half hour that was really promising and, at times, really good to watch.
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:17 pm

Suppose a good job Brady and Defour were not playing as would have been an almost 70 million team - thats madness
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:18 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Suppose a good job Brady and Defour were not playing as would have been an almost 70 million team - thats madness
Drivel, drivel and more drivel
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:22 pm

The BIG worry imo is that we were not even playing Sunderland first XI.
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:23 pm

Apart from Hart I wouldn’t be concerned if we had to start with any of the others at weekend.

We are just collectively useless when we make wholesale changes.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Drivel, drivel and more drivel

Come on take your clarets specs off once in a while - your report said the display was in your own words "embarrasing"
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:25 pm

It just highlights what is wrong with our recruitment or should i say lack off

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:26 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Apart from Hart I wouldn’t be concerned if we had to start with any of the others at weekend.

We are just collectively useless when we make wholesale changes.
I’d agree with that. That second half was horrible last night but if we put some of those players in at weekend they would probably be fine. Conceded two goals badly from well worked corners and we didn’t offer any real response then.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:27 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Apart from Hart I wouldn’t be concerned if we had to start with any of the others at weekend.

We are just collectively useless when we make wholesale changes.
Agreed, that's probably why you see so many Prem teams struggling in the early rounds.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by slw » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:30 pm

is it true that we had 8 internationals in the side last night? If so they certainly didnt turn up. :?

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:03 pm

Spijed wrote:Do you really think the board would risk alienating the best manager in decades?

Funny how they sanctioned the spending on Wood, Brady, Hendrick, Vydra etc.

As for players being way off, what do you think of the squads of Palace, Everton & Bournemouth as they clearly struggled as well?

But they have backers remember !!

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:25 pm

I think there is a lot to be made from having no natural leader on the pitch. There is not a cat in hell chance that the marking for the 2 corners had Mee or in the past Heaton been on the pitch as they would be looking and directing. Head scratcher really does do it justice.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:35 pm

slw wrote:is it true that we had 8 internationals in the side last night? If so they certainly didnt turn up. :?
199 caps between them apparently

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Spijed » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:36 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:But they have backers remember !!
And that proves that they find it no easier to win matches with their second eleven than we do.
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:53 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Er yes i do as the amount of money those players cost for a club of our size should be pushing for a regular 1st team spot - these are way off
There's a huge difference between having a pool of players (basically one for each position) who may be called upon individually to replace a 1st team regular than to pitch 10 of them out there at once.
i do believe, though, that we are victims of a lack of rotation in the first team, this can't be doing our squad players much good, can it?
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by lakesider » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You do spout some crap don’t you? Bet you loved it last night, losing to Sunderland so you could have yet anothe go.
Think you've got to give some credit to a very hard working Sunderland side, in particular their wingers who gave Bards and Charlie a torrid time. Also Bards, Long, Taylor and Gibson looked very ring rusty. Possible victims of sticking to a regular 11. Difficult one that as that's our main strength i.e. same tight knit 11 who are fit, experienced and know each others game back to front ( could you see those last 2 Sunderland goals happening with Tarks and Mee in there?). My worry is hopefully it won't put us off getting Drinkwater some more game time. He looked class for the first 30 minutes and was at the heart of everything. Agree with a few on here that we never seem to fare well when we do wholesale changes.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:48 pm

It's probably less about the ability of our second eleven and more about motivation. This sort of performance and result happens far too often to be just about ability.

Of course I understand it, as do most fans when you look at the attendance.

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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by 4:20 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:38 pm

Did one on Twitter earlier but don't want to milk the Indiana Jones theme so am posting it on here so it doesn't go to waste. Was a bit down for a couple of minutes after the match but this image popped in my head and made me chuckle..
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:53 pm

4:20 wrote:Did one on Twitter earlier but don't want to milk the Indiana Jones theme so am posting it on here so it doesn't go to waste. Was a bit down for a couple of minutes after the match but this image popped in my head and made me chuckle..
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Yeah, it's proper hilarious is that.

:roll:
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Re: REPORT: Another League Cup disaster

Post by 4:20 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:17 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Yeah, it's proper hilarious is that.

:roll:

Nice to meet you, Buzz Killington.

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