ARTICLE: Pope back in England squad

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:26 pm

Nick Pope called up and Jeff Hendrick, Kevin Long & Bailey Peacock-Farrell

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Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:28 pm

England's no1

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:30 pm

Southgate commented that he was an old fashioned keeper but keeps the ball out of the net!

disappointed that Tarks isn't selected but the 'fashionable Villa' Mings is!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:30 pm

To be honest, not sure what Tarky has to do to get in given his early season performances.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:32 pm

Mings inclusion is a joke but has looked well in highlights i have seen

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:45 pm

Dissapointing for Tarky and Mee.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:46 pm

ClaretAL wrote:Dissapointing for Tarky and Mee.

I don't think we are going to see Ben Mee get into an England squad. He's not the type of Southgate selects. Very disappointing for Tarky.

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:To be honest, not sure what Tarky has to do to get in given his early season performances.

Probably move to what is perceived to be a more fashionable club. I've only seen him on TV, but thought he was playing at least as good as when he was previously selected for international duty.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:51 pm

The non inclusion of Tarks is hilarious, can only be that he under performed in previous call ups during training

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:52 pm

On form, Barnes should be in for Wilson and Tarks for Keane. Sadly I don't think Ben will ever get a call up, even though he is the perfect Foil for a Tarks or Keane.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:53 pm

He's been as good as I've seen him recently, and is a far better player than Mings in my opinion. I'm sure there's fans at every premier league club confused by some decisions but he cant pick them all.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:54 pm

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Charlie's had his say too. Might be somewhat drawn from personal experience....

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:04 pm

OMG Sterling in stead on Lennon!

#bigclubbiased #fucksouthgategetstrachanin

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Suratclaret wrote:Probably move to what is perceived to be a more fashionable club. I've only seen him on TV, but thought he was playing at least as good as when he was previously selected for international duty.

Better I think. He’s been outstanding.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Mings is 6’5”. Mee isn’t. Southgate loves monsters at the back, see Stones, Maguire, Keane.
Mings has played 35 matches since 2015, only 20 of them in the PL and not all of them succesful. This is a dreadful decision. He is the current flavour of the month.
Ben Mee will never play for England and whilst they throw caps around like confetti that is outrageous. He is a proven PL defender who makes the guy next to him look good.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:33 pm

Southgate sticks with players from his U21 days, primarily...even if they fail to deliver, they do dazzle him.

He has had Tarkowski. He is trying Mings. Nothing in that.

Mee doesn't fit - just an excellent defender. Southgate likes less able, error strewn passers.

Well done to Nick.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Funny how a team of lesser players at Northern Ireland do so well as a team.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I don't think we are going to see Ben Mee get into an England squad. He's not the type of Southgate selects. Very disappointing for Tarky.

Ben Mee is like Steve Bruce was, does the dirty stuff really well but isn't deemed good enough on the ball to get picked for England. Leaving Tarks out is a bigger joke, especially given that he has regularly played with two of the England keepers. Surely it is beneficial to try and pick players who are familiar with each other where possible.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:00 pm

Good for Pope. On this occasion based on form Tarkowski should be in it.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:39 pm

Pleased for Pope but hope that doesn’t mean Hart playing league matches.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:58 pm

Mings in an England squad - the world has gone mad. Absolutely shocking.

Tarka and Mee just need to carry on as they are, they'll get there eventually

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:16 pm

He isn't going to pick Ben Mee, it's simple as that.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:38 pm

jrgbfc wrote:He isn't going to pick Ben Mee, it's simple as that.

And, to be honest, Ben Mee doesn't fit the modern template for a CB.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:45 pm

Dyched wrote:OMG Sterling in stead on Lennon!

#bigclubbiased #fucksouthgategetstrachanin

Hahaha. Dyched has just compared Raheem Sterling to Tyrone Mings.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:36 pm

Always mixed feelings for me when the internationals squads are announced. Brings great kudos to the club when players are selected and I’m sure it helps “round” and add to their experience.

On the other hand it increases the injury risk with extra games and puts them in the shop window.

I’m on the fence.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:20 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Hahaha. Dyched has just compared Raheem Sterling to Tyrone Mings.

I actually compared Sterling to Lennon.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:56 pm

Congratulations, Nick Pope.

Who do we think Southgate will choose if Pickford gets a knock in training?

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tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:34 am

Paul Waine wrote:Congratulations, Nick Pope.

Who do we think Southgate will choose if Pickford gets a knock in training?

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John Spicer

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:54 am

Dyched wrote:I actually compared Sterling to Lennon.

That doesn't help. I gathered from the tone of your post that you were satirising Burnley fans' view that Barnes was better than Wilson. If you were genuinely suggesting that Lennon is better than Sterling ...

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:To be honest, not sure what Tarky has to do to get in given his early season performances.

Join a bigger more fashionable club. Its misjustice Tarka not getting picked.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:53 am

Always thought it would benefit England if the 2 centrebacks and goallie were from the same team (providing they were on form of course). Pope / Heaton with Tarks and Mee in defence would be solid. The exclusion of Barnes up front is laughable.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:55 am

McNeil had a brilliant half season yet didn't get near the full England squad. Mason Mount has had three good games so far this season yet gets in despite playing far fewer matches.

Just shows the bias towards the bigger clubs.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:01 am

Stayingup wrote:Join a bigger more fashionable club. Its misjustice Tarka not getting picked.

You mean like the one he, Heaton, Keane, Cork & Pope were all playing for when they got their first call ups.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:02 am

Spijed wrote:McNeil had a brilliant half season yet didn't get near the full England squad. Mason Mount has had three good games so far this season yet gets in despite playing far fewer matches.

Just shows the bias towards the bigger clubs.

Maybe he has taken into account Mount's previous seasons - 60+ league games played. If he was only taking 2019/20 into account then he wouldn't be selecting McNeil.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:04 am

Southgate has seen plenty of our games, it's not as if he's ignoring our players. Does anyone seriously believe that any international manager would not include a player he thought good enough on the basis of which club they play for?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:10 am

Sutton-Claret wrote:Always thought it would benefit England if the 2 centrebacks and goallie were from the same team (providing they were on form of course). Pope / Heaton with Tarks and Mee in defence would be solid. The exclusion of Barnes up front is laughable.

But when they play for us they have 2 full backs who barely cross the half way line and 2 holding midfielders who don't really go anywhere. Throw in our wide players who do plenty of defensive work and lots of the time when we defend we have 8 men in a defensive shape, which they wouldn't have for England. Anyone with any pace would roast them alive.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:38 am

boatshed bill wrote:Southgate has seen plenty of our games, it's not as if he's ignoring our players. Does anyone seriously believe that any international manager would not include a player he thought good enough on the basis of which club they play for?

Theo Walcott got picked for the squad by Sven despite never having played, probably because he'd signed for Arsenal

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:44 am

Why all this calamity for Mee not being selected? He’s nowhere near good enough to play international football for England. A very brave defender who puts himself on the line but that’s all he has. Far too slow and not big enough for a starters and not the most comfortable on the ball it’s perfectly easy to see why he’s never being selected. Our defensive shape makes Mee look way better than he actually is, he’s of no use if he’s in a team who play expansive football.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:44 am

Spijed wrote:Theo Walcott got picked for the squad by Sven despite never having played, probably because he'd signed for Arsenal

Sven is not Southgate. There is no agenda against our players!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:25 pm

Spijed wrote:Theo Walcott got picked for the squad by Sven despite never having played, probably because he'd signed for Arsenal

He’d played but it was limited experience but it was a ridiculous selection

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:19 pm

Dyched wrote:I actually compared Sterling to Lennon.

No you didn’t