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Post by tim_noone » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:33 pm

What's with all these Adults Blowing big plumes of Smoke up into the Air or out the car windows at traffic lights and junctions etc? Is enjoyment gained by them getting the Biggest cloud ...a bit like Kids get with Bubbles or is there something else going on?
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Post by basil6345789 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:53 pm

Carcinagenic, stay clear.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:55 pm

Puff the magic dickhead
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:05 pm

They all look ridiculous. Like big babies. And the stuff is probably much worse for you than tobacco.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:08 pm

They believe it helps them quit and will be less harmful, but there's very little knowledge about long-term effects etc.
If someone really wanted to quit smoking then they wouldn't vape.

Kids also use them because they seem to think it's cool :roll:
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:51 pm

cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.

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Post by mkmel » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:14 pm

If they are driving and not just passengers then surely they are not being in complete control of the car and should be prosecuted

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:20 pm

Story on fb today about a Texan lad whos’ lungs stopped functioning because of the chemical mixture he was inhaling. Could be total ******** but I wouldn’t write it off. Far too soon for saying these things are safe.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:19 pm

Putting anything into your lungs other than what's needed isn't good for you.
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Post by ReddishClaret » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:32 pm

If you don't use them why bother? You breathe in diesel & petrol fumes and aircraft fuel still has lead in it!

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:57 pm

Smoke cigs. Taste awesome and make you look cool!

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Post by dushanbe » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:14 pm

Douche flutes

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Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:18 pm

tim_noone wrote:What's with all these Adults Blowing big plumes of Smoke up into the Air or out the car windows at traffic lights and junctions etc? Is enjoyment gained by them getting the Biggest cloud ...a bit like Kids get with Bubbles or is there something else going on?
Were you following the same one we were through Barrowford at about 4.45pm Tim :lol: :lol: :lol:

Every few seconds a huge plume of noxious vapour exuded the car in front and all we could smell was bloody pear drops ffs in ours :lol: :lol: :lol:

God help them in the future it must be rotting their lungs as much as smoking Cigarettes

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:23 pm

mkmel wrote:If they are driving and not just passengers then surely they are not being in complete control of the car and should be prosecuted
Smoking is the one thing they're refusing to ban people from doing whilst driving yet it's the most common thing you see driver's doing....

Most be some money somewhere making sure that law is never made.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:24 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.
Yeah and many moons ago smoking was classed as good for you.

The NHS shouldn't be advocating e-cigs because they haven't got a clue about long term effects.
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Smoking is the one thing they're refusing to ban people from doing whilst driving yet it's the most common thing you see driver's doing....

Most be some money somewhere making sure that law is never made.
Tbh using mobile phones along with eating and picking their nose is the most common thing you see drivers doing at the wheel. :shock:

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:25 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yeah and many moons ago smoking was classed as good for you.

The NHS shouldn't be advocating e-cigs because they haven't got a clue about long term effects.
How do you know the NHS don’t have a clue about the long term effects?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:31 am

Rileybobs wrote:How do you know the NHS don’t have a clue about the long term effects?
Simply because they haven't been that popular for long enough, so unless you're considering approx 10 years or so long term, then no one really knows.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:53 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Simply because they haven't been that popular for long enough, so unless you're considering approx 10 years or so long term, then no one really knows.
Unless the medical industry have ways of simulating long-term usage of a product to analyse its effects.

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Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:28 pm

For the Vapers out there

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321960.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:15 pm

New legislation is due to come out this year or next.

Wont be long before theyre clamped down on. They arent even bloody regulated.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:25 pm

tim_noone wrote:Tbh using mobile phones along with eating and picking their nose is the most common thing you see drivers doing at the wheel. :shock:
To be fair, driving is the thing you most commonly see them doing. Not always driving well though, it has to be said.
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Post by Hipper » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:52 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... g-disaster" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

As this is a relatively new industry it is a bit disappointing that the companies concerned haven't looked into the recycling aspect.

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Post by JohnMac » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:40 am

In the top two of my 'pet hates' currently, alongside this generation of hands down shorts/tracksuit bottoms fondling themself in public.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:25 am

JohnMac wrote:In the top two of my 'pet hates' currently, alongside this generation of hands down shorts/tracksuit bottoms fondling themself in public.
It's not only this generation ....agreed wtf is that all about!!
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Post by ClaretDiver » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:30 am

Even worse when walking down the street behind one of them you get a full face of it!!!

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Post by basil6345789 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:35 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:New legislation is due to come out this year or next.

Wont be long before theyre clamped down on. They arent even bloody regulated.
Frightening - most of the chemicals (usually anti-freeze, etc), come from China. They know how to sell you crap and not care. Same for their tattoo inks, as I keep saying.
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Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:40 pm

Its not just the sh1t chemicals in them or the disgusting smell...

How many have exploded etc or set on fire when recharging the batteries.....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... h-44161348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by ClaretDiver » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:55 am

basil6345789 wrote:Frightening - most of the chemicals (usually anti-freeze, etc), come from China. They know how to sell you crap and not care. Same for their tattoo inks, as I keep saying.
Tattoo inks from China are a major issue!

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:35 am

They should make a farting noise when the clouds of smoke billow forth. That would be fun.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:10 am

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... ve-deaths/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:23 pm

Fumes dont affect the non smoker too much
It affects their lungs like fags do

Leave em to it.

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Post by Damo » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:34 pm

Makes me laugh when people say they have given up smoking, when all they have done is swapped fags for vaping.
Another thing with people who use these, is that they never seem to have them out of their mouths. It cant be any better for you when they cant string a sentence together without having a mid sentence blast
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Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:39 pm

THC's (found in cannabis) are the problem in these Yank E-cigs ....... some brightspark invented a druggie version and its killing people

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:39 pm

Damo wrote:Makes me laugh when people say they have given up smoking, when all they have done is swapped fags for vaping.
Another thing with people who use these, is that they never seem to have them out of their mouths. It cant be any better for you when they cant string a sentence together without having a mid sentence blast
its great to read what the smug, and righteous say about other people.
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Post by SammyBoy » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:46 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:its great to read what the smug, and righteous say about other people.
This thread suggests to me that there’s nothing more satisfying than pointing out the shortcomings of others.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:47 pm

It is, Wile E.
Those vaping morons deserve all the stick they get. Ooooh, you can get strawberry and bubble-gum flavour, you know. :roll:
*****, the lot of 'em.
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:57 pm

sounds like there's a few vegetarian jogging types on here, the ones forever looking at their expensive watches checking their PB times.
Dull as ditchwater and doubtless office bores.
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:51 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:It is, Wile E.
Those vaping morons deserve all the stick they get. Ooooh, you can get strawberry and bubble-gum flavour, you know. :roll:
*****, the lot of 'em.
:lol: :lol:

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:04 pm

People, quite rightly become aware of the risks from smoking related to cancer and heart disease but COPD is also a killer. Breathing anything in other than fresh air into your lungs can result in some form of COPD, I can't believe vaping would be any different.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:31 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:sounds like there's a few vegetarian jogging types on here, the ones forever looking at their expensive watches checking their PB times.
Dull as ditchwater and doubtless office bores.
I'm definitely not a veggie and I'm not a running type either.
Nor do I work in an office anymore.
I've never smoked either.

I do however think that smoking is for idiots and vaping makes people look like a idiot.
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Post by 1fatclaret » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:38 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:cobblers, NHS advocates them as a substitute , also I packed in smoking with e -cig 18 months ago.
NHS also advocates nicotine patches, gums and liquids, although the success rates are abysmal.

You still on the E-cigs?

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Post by Culmclaret » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:03 pm

I chair a county tobacco control alliance. The advice of our consultant lung specialist is that is far too early to say that e cigarettes are significantly safer than tobacco. His view is that they are likely to be safer than smoking tobacco but not that much. As others have suggested, taking hot chemicals into your lungs is unlikely to be beneficial
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Post by bfccrazy » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:11 pm

I smoke cigarettes yet refuse to puff away at an ecig.

Since the first ones I saw years ago had the little “poison” signs on the bottle which said “if ingested then seek medical help immediately” - So if you can’t drink this stuff and it’s that bad for your body then breathing it in can’t be all too good.

For me it’s a “better the devil you know” kind of attitude to smoking a cigarette. I know the risks and choose to do it anyway which I guess is more fool me.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:21 pm

forget the clowns who are on their high horses because they have never been addicted , its been proven that around 3 million have quit ciggys using e-cigs.
Granted, they may not be safe, and time will tell, but the NHS advocate them as a viable alternative. They back up their decision to do so by stating tests have been carried out , and the risks are way lower than tobacco. I can see its best not to do either, but it does seem a better option to vape if it gets someone of the fags.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:40 pm

I always thoughts that an E Cig was a sort of "weaning off" device after cigarettes. You stop cigarettes completely then go to the e Cig then onto nothing at all.

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Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:52 pm

E-cigs helped me quit proper cigarettes. Then weaned down to being totally nicotine free. When used properly, they can be a very effective stop smoking aid.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:02 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:I always thoughts that an E Cig was a sort of "weaning off" device after cigarettes. You stop cigarettes completely then go to the e Cig then onto nothing at all.

For a lot of people they do work like that, the nicotine itself is addictive, therefore the available liquids come in different strengths.
It is supposedly preferable to gradually reduce the nicotine level until it stops any cravings. clearly many continue on the higher strength stuff because its a hard habit to break.

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:03 am

Bosscat wrote:THC's (found in cannabis) are the problem in these Yank E-cigs ....... some brightspark invented a druggie version and its killing people
Erm, it's practically impossible to overdose off THC, you'd need to smoke/eat an absolute stupid amount of weed

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Post by Rick_Muller » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:52 am

Worth a watch...

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