Jamie Carragher just now describing Chris Wood and Ashley Barnes

Classless tosser

That's how they looked tonight unfortunately

Well done understanding what he was saying. I can never tell.

He was hardly beckenbauer himself.

Chris Wood were absolutely appalling tonight, the decision to bring Barnes off was baffling

Will he gob out of the window of his car at some kid on his way home ?

Hes absolutely spot on, but our tactics showed them as that.
We didnt win a single header, the persisted to do it for the entire 93 minutes.

fanzone wrote:Chris Wood were absolutely appalling tonight, the decision to bring Barnes off was baffling

My thinking was that Dyche knew the game was lost and was A) saving Barnes and B) giving Wood a confidence boost by keeping him on.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:My thinking was that Dyche knew the game was lost and was A) saving Barnes and B) giving Wood a confidence boost by keeping him on.

Saving Barnes for the game in two weeks?

fanzone wrote:Saving Barnes for the game in two weeks?

Always a chance of picking up an injury later on in a game.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:My thinking was that Dyche knew the game was lost and was A) saving Barnes and B) giving Wood a confidence boost by keeping him on.

C) ****#ng Vydra off even more.

How many straws are you clutching.

fanzone wrote:Saving Barnes for the game in two weeks?

Or from a possible booking or red card or injury.

It is still disrespectful and not something that a football pundit should be saying

Wood played as well as most and better than some

The most baffling decision was not to change it much earlier. We were pretty poor second half - Jayrod should’ve been on before the hour.

scouseclaret wrote:The most baffling decision was not to change it much earlier. We were pretty poor second half - Jayrod should’ve been on before the hour.

I think you could have brought Jayrod on as a 12th player and we still wouldn't have got past Virgil and his defence.

I would not have minded if he said that today Barnes and Wood were ineffective

But to call them two big lumps up front showed a total lack of respect by a football pundit

For those who didn't hear the Carragher interview - (I can't stand him by the way) - maybe his choice of words was perhaps a little unfortunate, but he was essentially correct, and he described us on two occasions as outstanding, so let's not show ourselves to be "classless" losers.
He was very complimentary about us.

I’m spitting feathers at his remarks what is he spitting and at who tonight?

Yes afterwards he was very complimentary of Burnley and Sean Dyche

But those are the exact words that he used to describe Ashley Barnes and Chris Wood which any way you look at it is disrespectful to our two strikers

MACCA wrote:Hes absolutely spot on, but our tactics showed them as that.
We didnt win a single header, the persisted to do it for the entire 93 minutes.

No he didnt; Rodriguez came on for Barnes. Personally I would have binned Woods instead.

BennyD wrote:No he didnt; Rodriguez came on for Barnes. Personally I would have binned Woods instead.

Yes we did. I'm on about tactics not personel

If you are so accomplished on the subject, I assume you manage a Prem team. Which one?

They should both have been subbed in my opinion, we had nothing to lose by throwing on both JayRod and Vydra with 30 minutes left

fanzone wrote:Chris Wood were absolutely appalling tonight, the decision to bring Barnes off was baffling

Barnes always gets found out against bigger CLASS defensive players
Love Barnes as much as everyone does but be interesting to know how many he's scored against van diyk,fellani and more recently the frizzy haired freak from arsenal(guendiza?)
1 last week I know at least

The strikers thrive on good service.... where was it ?

CBT wrote:Barnes always gets found out against bigger CLASS defensive players
Love Barnes as much as everyone does but be interesting to know how many he's scored against van diyk,fellani and more recently the frizzy haired freak from arsenal(guendiza?)
1 last week I know at least

IIRC, Barnes has scored against all of the big 6. How many can say that?

Hasn't Barnes got 13 goals against the so called "Big six"?

What with not being able to understand most of what he says, I'm not sure Carragher wasn't talking about that Penelope Cruz film on the telly last night.

Unlike some, Barnes never looks over-awed regardless.

It was like we had some football tourists out for us today.

Can we just appreciate that Chris Wood successfully dribbled past Van Dijk, which didn’t happen in the whole of last season. He actually had a few good touches and just couldn’t find the finishes on his left foot.

dougcollins wrote:Unlike some, Barnes never looks over-awed regardless.

It was like we had some football tourists out for us today.

Spot on, showed them far too much respect and looked over-awed and nervous all game.

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Wood played as well as most and better than some

No he didn't, he was by far our worst player.

They weren't two big lumps a few weeks ago when we beat Saints, gave it a good go at Arsenal and should have won last week at Wolves.
They've been shown up against arguably the best defence in the world and an individual mountain just awarded the best player in the world.
Stop being so fickle people!!

The spitting Scouser was praising them the other week
Its a shame hes allowed anywhere near our screen .To quote a scouse expression.
Hes got more faces than Big Ben

Woodleyclaret wrote:The spitting Scouser was praising them the other week
Its a shame hes allowed anywhere near our screen .To quote a scouse expression.
Hes got more faces than Big Ben

For the record, the scouse expression that you refer to is, ‘he’s got more faces than Big Ben’

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Wood played as well as most and better than some

Agreed.
Barnes spent the game throwing himself about by bouncing off their big lads and whining to the referee. I normally rate Barnes but he was out of his depth, unusually for him, today.

If Barnes is up against a top class centre half who won't be bullied then he doesn't really offer much.

Anybody would think we were up against the champions of europe yesterday and not laking a pub team!

CBT wrote:Barnes always gets found out against bigger CLASS defensive players
Love Barnes as much as everyone does but be interesting to know how many he's scored against van diyk,fellani and more recently the frizzy haired freak from arsenal(guendiza?)
1 last week I know at least

Now someone has pointed out that he has scored against all the big teams have you changed your view about him always getting “found out against class defensive players” ?

The truth of it is that on a number of occasions defenders who cost 100 times plus more than Barnes do often get the better of Barnes and many other centre forwards they play against. And the other truth is that sometimes against all the odds Barnes gets the better of them.

There will be fans of every team outside the top 6 or 7 saying the same thing every week.
Did you see £20m Danny Ings yesterday ? He was embarrassingly poor - there was one point that he tried to push the ball past Lindelof and beat him for pace that if you didn’t know who he was you’d think he was a Sunday league player !

jrgbfc wrote:If Barnes is up against a top class centre half who won't be bullied then he doesn't really offer much.

What does that even mean ?
Barnes has been brilliant all season and had lots of players and pundits saying he should have been in the England squad.
He has one poor game against the best defender in the world and a player favourite to be picked as the best player in the world and you get sh-ite like this posted.

Exactly which centre halfs “won’t be bullied” ?

TVC15 wrote:What does that even mean ?
Barnes has been brilliant all season and had lots of players and pundits saying he should have been in the England squad.
He has one poor game against the best defender in the world and a player favourite to be picked as the best player in the world and you get sh-ite like this posted.

Exactly which centre halfs “won’t be bullied” ?

It means what it says. A massive part of Barnes game is being physical, trying to bully defenders. If he can't do it he's far less effective. It's not difficult to understand. And outside of Burnley I don't think there's too many people pushing for him to be in the England squad.

jrgbfc wrote:It means what it says. A massive part of Barnes game is being physical, trying to bully defenders. If he can't do it he's far less effective. It's not difficult to understand. And outside of Burnley I don't think there's too many people pushing for him to be in the England squad.

It’s meaningless because all defenders are bullied at some point - it’s just some more than others. Few teams do not have a big strapping centre back who on the face of it looks like he “won’t be bullied”....look at the freak who plays for Southampton - he didn’t get bullied by Rashford yesterday and had a great game yet he was awful against Barnes.

Wolves have got Boly - he’s a beast of a centre back who very rarely gets bullied by centre forwards - how did Barnes do against him last week ?

It’s nothing to do with what you are saying. It’s simply that players like Van Dyke will for the vast majority of games dominate all forwards they play against because they are so good. Lesser players like Luiz will sometimes look world beaters but often won’t - including a few times against Barnes.

now this a big lump!

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Perhaps he was referring to Kenny Dogleash's Daughter Kelly Cates

Bosscat wrote:Perhaps he was referring to Kenny Dogleash's Daughter Kelly Cates

leave her alone - she's got where she is on merit...nowt to do with her famous dad!

TVC15 wrote:Now someone has pointed out that he has scored against all the big teams have you changed your view about him always getting “found out against class defensive players” ?

The truth of it is that on a number of occasions defenders who cost 100 times plus more than Barnes do often get the better of Barnes and many other centre forwards they play against. And the other truth is that sometimes against all the odds Barnes gets the better of them.

There will be fans of every team outside the top 6 or 7 saying the same thing every week.
Did you see £20m Danny Ings yesterday ? He was embarrassingly poor - there was one point that he tried to push the ball past Lindelof and beat him for pace that if you didn’t know who he was you’d think he was a Sunday league player !

Not changed my view on him massively underrated
Edited my post before anyone else commented when I remembered his goal from last week(wasn't aware of his record against top six which I think I stated)
Was answering a post as to way he was subbed instead of wood and I think it was because of my point of him being neutralised by van dijk
But accept I worded my post a little wrong
Think jrbfc sums it up better than I did