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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:58 pm

Shouldn’t have mentioned losing a wicket. We’ve done just that. Burns gone.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:59 pm

Very true. He has batted for 64 overs though and he is being replaced by our previous opener, Jason Roy, surely nothing can go wrong now!

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:00 pm

Tired looking shot by Burns but he has done his job.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:04 pm

Burns caught Smith b Scholes 81

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:14 pm

Root gone now - once again failed to take a 50 to a century

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:14 pm

Root now
Is collapse on

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Aclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:16 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Root now
Is collapse on
It usually is Dave.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:18 pm

Yea. The guy batting at 6 is rubbish

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:38 pm

Collapse underway - Roy gone 196/5

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:43 pm

How all the good work of earlier now means so much less.
England Test side of 2019.
Bit like watching the 1990s lot.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:43 pm

he doesn't know how to defend, I think whilst we all wanted him in the test squad after the WC we also knew this was a potential mistake.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:46 pm

will we avoid the follow on? I suspect not

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by CBT » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:51 pm

Off for bad light
Bit of a break for England

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:will we avoid the follow on? I suspect not
Can't see Australia enforcing the follow on as they would have to bat last on that pitch. I think they would try and score quickly, lead of around 400. Even with Ben Stokes, I doubt even he couldn't save them twice.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:55 pm

True

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:56 pm

The Aussies have bowled really well this last session.

Roy played some good shots in his 22 but got a great ball. You simply can't react to movement off the seam that late.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:58 pm

Spijed wrote:Can't see Australia enforcing the follow on as they would have to bat last on that pitch. I think they would try and score quickly, lead of around 400. Even with Ben Stokes, I doubt even he couldn't save them twice.
That decision will be based on weather forecast Vs how must rest the 4 man bowling attack needs.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Aclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:09 pm

I can't believe Mrs Aclaret has stormed off upstairs to watch Emmerdale just as the T20 came on, I've only been watching the cricket since lunch time !
Some women eh.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:17 pm

Aclaret wrote:I can't believe Mrs Aclaret has stormed off upstairs to watch Emmerdale just as the T20 came on, I've only been watching the cricket since lunch time !
Some women eh.
My missus used to do that but she doesn't do it anymore -----we moved into a bungalow! :D
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:27 pm

Aclaret wrote:I can't believe Mrs Aclaret has stormed off upstairs to watch Emmerdale just as the T20 came on, I've only been watching the cricket since lunch time !
Some women eh.
Did she make you a brew before she left? ;)

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by willsclarets » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:29 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The Aussies have bowled really well this last session.

Roy played some good shots in his 22 but got a great ball. You simply can't react to movement off the seam that late.
You get good balls in test cricket, but his forward defence is non-existent. He made the ball look better than it was to a top order batsman. He's not a five day player even in at 4 with an old ball.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Aclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:35 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Did she make you a brew before she left? ;)
That's just it Buxton, she said bring me a brew up IF you get a minute, just to rub it in. I will do between innings, I'm not that bad a husband :D
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by CleggHall » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:42 pm

Try as they might Denly and Roy are not test class cricketers, time to try a couple of others.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Aclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:45 pm

Frustrating, as there is a good cricketer in Roy but not sure how long we can stick with him.
He's not the only one not performing at the moment.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:14 pm

Aclaret wrote:That's just it Buxton, she said bring me a brew up IF you get a minute, just to rub it in. I will do between innings, I'm not that bad a husband :D
Good lad! :lol:

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:29 pm

CleggHall wrote:Try as they might Denly and Roy are not test class cricketers, time to try a couple of others.
I think Roy needs a go in the winter against lesser attacks.

But who knows which way the team will go after the ashes?
It could be a clean sweep of changes.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:14 pm

Those 3 wickets in the last hour have tilted the balance in the Aussies favour,shame as Burns and Root battled really hard most of the afternoon,new ball in 8 overs to face as well,England have to battle and try and get to teatime tomorrow,one more big partnership and the game is still alive,but that's asking a lot against this attack.

Root played well but again failed to convert a good start,that's the major difference between him and Smith,once Smith gets set he usually goes big,3rd time in this series Root has got to 50 and failed to kick on.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:01 pm

I know he should be tougher, like most of the Aussies seem to be but they roughed Root up a real treat and took him out. Very interesting day coming up tomorrow. Hoping that Stokes gets good rest tonight and has the eye of the tiger in the morning. Surely going to need it. If we can last until mid/late afternoon should line up a cracker on Sunday. Glad we got some ticket now and booked Monday off ;)

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:22 am

Why do Sky commentators insist on singling out every batsman that comes to the crease just to repeat the same old mantra?
"Joe Root is most vulnerable when he first comes to the crease", "They need to get Jason Roy early that is when he is at his most vulnerable", the same comments will be applied to Ben Stokes, Johnny Bairstow and Jos Buttler. Obviousy Cricket Viz must tell them that every batsman is most vulnerable in the early part of their innings so they pass this astounding piece of information on to the viewers.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:02 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:I know he should be tougher, like most of the Aussies seem to be but they roughed Root up a real treat and took him out. Very interesting day coming up tomorrow. Hoping that Stokes gets good rest tonight and has the eye of the tiger in the morning. Surely going to need it. If we can last until mid/late afternoon should line up a cracker on Sunday. Glad we got some ticket now and booked Monday off ;)
There's a few things you can say about Root about his captaincy and failure to convert 50s into 100s but questioning his toughness after he had his plastic box broke on him and hit on the knee where there wasn't much protection is wide of the mark.

Often plays through bad back pain as well.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by CleggHall » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:38 am

Root and Stokes are our only test class batsmen, Smith and Labuschagne for the Aussies.
Theirs are better than ours as are their bowlers, we are currently very weak at test cricket.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:02 am

What time is the first ball?

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:08 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:What time is the first ball?
Its started.
Has to be over before midnight though, or Cinders gets upset. :D
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:25 am

New ball due 212-5 England have overtaken Steve Smith :)

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:28 am

tiger76 wrote:New ball due 212-5 England have overtaken Steve Smith :)
:lol:

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:46 am

A life for Stokes on 19,this new cherry's swinging everywhere,and the cloud's rolling in need to see this spell off hopefully.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:50 am

tiger76 wrote:A life for Stokes on 19,this new cherry's swinging everywhere,and the cloud's rolling in need to see this spell off hopefully.
We didn't . :lol:

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:54 am

I think this could be the best bowling attack the Aussies have sent over here.
Just no let up at all, even with the two on the sidelines.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:56 am

Terrible shot from Bairstow AGAIN,why on earth is he aiming a big drive in this situation,Jason Roy fell in exactly the same fashion,i've nothing against playing attacking shots,but pick the right ball to hit FGS.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:14 pm

And now Stokes gone 243/7 and it’s looking likely that Australia will have the follow on option.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:19 pm

Not watching so don’t know what the conditions are like but surely the Aussies will enforce the follow-on and give themselves as much time as possible to take the 10 wickets.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:33 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Not watching so don’t know what the conditions are like but surely the Aussies will enforce the follow-on and give themselves as much time as possible to take the 10 wickets.
We now need another 42 to take that option away from them but I’m not sure we will get them.

Basically there are just over five sessions left so if they get the chance and don’t enforce it then they won’t be able to bat for long.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:34 pm

And Archer gone - he’s no batsman.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:35 pm

If they can't force the follow on, and say they are in to bat after tea, how early can they declare?

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:39 pm

This England team was very overrated going into this series,and the Australians underrated end of really.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:42 pm

After Stokes’ heroics in the last test I don’t think the Aussies would want to set England much less than 400. Enforcing the follow on would be the best option for them as they could easily topple us for 200 and not have to worry about risking the draw.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:52 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Bumble ..

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:After Stokes’ heroics in the last test I don’t think the Aussies would want to set England much less than 400. Enforcing the follow on would be the best option for them as they could easily topple us for 200 and not have to worry about risking the draw.
Doubt they could get a 400 lead too much before the end of today to be honest and they will want longer than that to bowl us out.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by tiger76 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:02 pm

The longer England can prolong this 1st innings the better,takes time out of the game,and the runs are useful as well,the closer we can get to their score the longer they'll have to bat,ideally England don't want to start their 2nd innings today if possible.

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:03 pm

278/8 at lunch - another 20 required to avoid follow on

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