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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:37 am
by ElectroClaret
Harris gone for 13.
28-2.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:44 am
by tiger76
Broad's on fire this morning,Jofra not so much,Smith's arrival might get him going though.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:51 am
by Foulthrow
Longsidelenny wrote:Any suggestions how to get 20cans of cider into old Trafford without drinking it first cheers in advance up the colne
Get a pen, cross out the word ‘Strongbow’ and replace with ‘Appletise’. Job done.

Avoid drinking it all first by simply bringing 40 cans with you instead of 20.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:13 pm
by RVclaret
Apart from Broad, England have been surprisingly flat. Australia’s morning and if these two are still together by tea then the test could be out of reach.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:07 pm
by tiger76
The rain's stopped but i don't see play starting anytime soon.

Good morning for Australia,this duo are the glue for Australia's batting.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:13 pm
by Longsidelenny
tiger76 wrote:The rain's stopped but i don't see play starting anytime soon.

Good morning for Australia,this duo are the glue for Australia's batting.
When we start need a good hour to get back in the game

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:19 pm
by Foulthrow
Overton hasn't impressed me. Seems a strange selection, not that quick, doesn't do a great deal with the ball and not that impressive of a batting average to really be considered an all-rounder. Smacks of a 1990s 'bits and pieces' selection.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:28 pm
by tiger76
Foulthrow wrote:Overton hasn't impressed me. Seems a strange selection, not that quick, doesn't do a great deal with the ball and not that impressive of a batting average to really be considered an all-rounder. Smacks of a 1990s 'bits and pieces' selection.
If they wanted another seamer,i'd have opted for Sam Curran,he offers with bat and ball,and provides balance to the side.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:53 pm
by Local cricketer
Longsidelenny wrote:When we start need a good hour to get back in the game

Did you get the cider in?

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:13 pm
by Longsidelenny
Got 12 cans in bought a bag with a false section in it well worth it very dear drinking in the ground covers still on I’ve got a rock on only 3 o’clock up the colne

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:13 pm
by jrgbfc
Think they'll be struggling to get back out today.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:04 pm
by tiger76
Play just resumed,that rain break came at a good time for England,gives the bowlers a rest and the batsman have to start again,need one or both of these out soon.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 pm
by claret wizard
On for 12 mins.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:07 pm
by willsclarets
Shambles. Who'd have thought a test match in September at Old Trafford might have a few weather issues

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:57 pm
by FCBurnley
Great delivery by Overton to bowl the guy whose name I cant spell. But overall Aussies on top and England flat.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:09 pm
by jrgbfc
Looks absolutely freezing sat in the crowd :lol:

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:15 pm
by tiger76
170-3 all over for the day,Smith and Head unbeaten.

A few early strikes tomorrow could change things.but Australia's day today.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:30 pm
by willsclarets
tiger76 wrote:170-3 all over for the day,Smith and Head unbeaten.

A few early strikes tomorrow could change things.but Australia's day today.
Ordinarily I wouldn't be worried given the pitch, but even if they make 400 they could still knock us over for 200. That said if we get on a roll their tail could disappear, our bowlers should be aiming to get them out for 280

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:23 am
by Bosscat
Broad strikes again Head LBW

183-4

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:39 am
by Dark Cloud
It wasn't actually that cold there yesterday, but it's so frustrating that we got a really good morning session, but ultimately what amounted to about half a days cricket because of the crappy weather and then today I'm sitting here watching on the box and the sun is beating down! :cry: :cry:

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:21 pm
by Spijed
I think it's fair to say that Smith will become the greatest batsman ever.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:23 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Spijed wrote:I think it's fair to say that Smith will become the greatest batsman ever.

Greatest ever in this series or history of the game ?

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 pm
by Spijed
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Greatest ever in this series or history of the game ?
All time. He might not get the most runs due to his suspension but it wouldn't surprise me to see him being regarded as the best ever because of his ability to stay around the middle and score runs.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:59 pm
by FCBurnley
Spijed wrote:I think it's fair to say that Smith will become the greatest batsman ever.
I think it is also fair to say that he is also an aggravating little **** and will forever be a convicted cheat

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:05 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Now lets get the rest out cheaply


FFS :D no ball from the spinner

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:06 pm
by ClaretDiver
That's a BIG wicket!

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:08 pm
by ClaretDiver
Damn!

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:17 pm
by FCBurnley
I repeat he is an aggravating little t***. He gets so lucky then hits the ball 6 feet behind the wicket to knock it away from Bairstow. It’s beyond funny now

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:40 pm
by tiger76
How the bleeding hell can a spinner bowl a no ball that's criminal,the way this test is heading England will be fighting to salvage a draw.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:48 pm
by FCBurnley
Archer is innocuous so far in this test

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:49 pm
by Steve1956
Spijed wrote:I think it's fair to say that Smith will become the greatest batsman ever.
But still be best known for being a cheat

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:54 pm
by FCBurnley
We are already just playing for a draw. Aussies will score over 400 for sure

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:44 pm
by tiger76
Yikes a wicket at last Paine gone 1st ball after tea for 58,379-6 with him that shall not be named on 179*,having just smashed a Jack Leach full toss for 6,i wonder if the Aussies will try and get some quick runs and get England in tonight for a tricky half hour.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:58 pm
by kentonclaret
Obviously Steve Smith and the Australia team have not read the script.

It was supposed to be England that had the upper hand and all the momentum (according to pundits and media pre match).

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:07 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Vaughan said earlier on the radio that there had been harsh words in the dressing room over the attitude of some players yesterday. He didn’t elaborate and nobody quizzed him further on it.

Any other stories doing the rounds on who it was aimed at and why?

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:10 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Joe Root is just hopeless as captain when things go against us.
Let’s the game drift and drift so often.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:15 pm
by Hibsclaret
TheFamilyCat wrote:Vaughan said earlier on the radio that there had been harsh words in the dressing room over the attitude of some players yesterday. He didn’t elaborate and nobody quizzed him further on it.

Any other stories doing the rounds on who it was aimed at and why?
Vaughan’s another one who always has something to say....

He usually has a go at Bairstow tbh

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:15 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
FCBurnley wrote:We are already just playing for a draw. Aussies will score over 400 for sure
We will only manage a draw if the weather intervenes.
I agree that the Aussies will score over 400 --not difficult because they are 395 now!
Starc and Lyons will see us off for less than 200 and we will be fighting another uphill battle, whether we are asked to follow on or not.
I hope that this is not the case, however, our batting is very brittle and our cricket in this series has not been very good.
Jason Roy needs to score a hundred because he has dropped that many catches during the series he owes us more than that!

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:21 pm
by ClaretTony
Poor forecast tomorrow might help. Will make it more difficult for them to bowl us out twice.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:26 pm
by ClaretTony
Double ton for Smith.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:27 pm
by ClaretTony
Don’t know what the record is in a series but he’s nearly 580 runs and this is just his fourth innings.

Leading run scorer now in 2019 which is incredible

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:29 pm
by kentonclaret
I heard on commentary recently that his number of runs scored in 12 Ashes innings is almost identical to Don Bradman, Maybe even better after this double hundred.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:31 pm
by ClaretTony
Bradman scored over 5,000 Ashes runs and he scored not far short of 1,000 in one series. He must have been exceptional.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:33 pm
by JTClaret
ClaretTony wrote:Don’t know what the record is in a series but he’s nearly 580 runs and this is just his fourth innings.

Leading run scorer now in 2019 which is incredible
D Bradman - 974
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:33 pm
by FCBurnley
First time I have ever seen the bowling side declare !!!

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:40 pm
by ClaretTony
Smith finally gone

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:43 pm
by FCBurnley
Embarrassing

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:45 pm
by kentonclaret
Steve Smith has become the first batsman (from either country) to score 500 runs in three consecutive Ashes Series.

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:53 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
When I said that Starc and Lyon would see us off ---I meant with the ball ----they are doing it with the bat too!

Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:53 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Hibsclaret wrote:Vaughan’s another one who always has something to say....

He usually has a go at Bairstow tbh
I agree. I don’t particularly like him as a commentator and find him to be a bit of an odd character to be honest.

And I tend to think that anything said behind closed doors should stay there but it caught my attention as it was attitude being questioned. Archer’s pace was down; could be a backlash from players about Woakes being dropped; Denly possibly not happy about being pushed up to open. Obviously i’m speculating but trying to think who’s attitude was being questioned and why.