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EFL trophy

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:54 pm

Why don't we enter an U21 team - anyone know why not

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by dougcollins » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:58 pm

Is an under 21 team allowed to win it?

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Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:14 pm

We do not have a Category 1 Academy

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:24 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:We do not have a Category 1 Academy
and we shouldn't be supporting that competition anyhow - posted this on the Magic Money Tree Thread

It is the EFL Trophy tonight - attendances will be very low as the call for boycotting B Teams gains more and more traction - and with the EFL making calls like this is it any wonder

https://twitter.com/R0ryDrake/status/11 ... 6472170498" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

for those who do not know about the issue - this is a good place to start

https://thesetpieces.com/features/b-teams-jpt/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: EFL trophy

Post by dougcollins » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:29 pm

Couldn't agree more.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Bosscat » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:59 pm

PL club academies shouldn't be involved in it ffs

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Foulthrow » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:47 pm

I hope they can win it. Two u21 teams playing out the final to an empty Wembley stadium might wake the EFL up. But then again, probably not....

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Post by Bosscat » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:31 pm

Nice to see most of the EFL clubs beating the PL under 21 academies ......

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Post by dibraidio » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:57 pm

So has anybody changed their mind now that Burnley could have a team who could be eligible to play in this competition? Does anybody know the selection rules for those teams from the category One academies who do and don't participate?

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:03 pm

I still have major doubts about us entering this competition, we almost certainly wouldn't come close to winning it, and the developmental progress for our younger players will be minimal at best.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:27 pm

dibraidio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:57 pm
So has anybody changed their mind now that Burnley could have a team who could be eligible to play in this competition? Does anybody know the selection rules for those teams from the category One academies who do and don't participate?
Not changed my mind and cannot ever seeing me do so

Cat 1 Academies are automatically invited to play but not obliged too
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:02 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:27 pm
Not changed my mind and cannot ever seeing me do so

Cat 1 Academies are automatically invited to play but not obliged too
Is it automatic. Burnley suggested that playing in the EFL Trophy & international competitions could be for a later date.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:02 pm
Is it automatic. Burnley suggested that playing in the EFL Trophy & international competitions could be for a later date.
Not quite automatic, but we will be invited

https://www.efl.com/leasingcomtrophy/th ... ion/rules/

key element

4 Participation in the Competition

4.1 All EFL Clubs (as defined in these Rules) shall take part in the Competition.

4.2 An additional sixteen clubs shall be invited to take part in the Competition on the following basis:

4.2.1 the first clubs to receive an invitation will be up to sixteen Clubs that will be participating in the Premier League in the current Season and which operate a Category One Academy (in accordance with the Youth Development Rules). The order of priority will be based on first team finishing position in the immediately preceding Season (across both the Premier League and Championship Division of the League).

4.2.2 if less than sixteen Premier League clubs qualify and/or accept the invitation pursuant to Rule 4.2.1, the League shall then invite:

(i) firstly the three Clubs relegated from the Premier League in the previous Season (provided they operate a Category One Academy); and

(ii) then if required the next highest placed Club(s) operating a Category One Academy,

until such time as there are no more than sixteen clubs (or Clubs) accepting the invitation to participate,

and any club (or Club) accepted into the Competition in accordance with this Rule is an Invited Club.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:08 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:42 pm
Not quite automatic, but we will be invited

https://www.efl.com/leasingcomtrophy/th ... ion/rules/

key element

4 Participation in the Competition

4.1 All EFL Clubs (as defined in these Rules) shall take part in the Competition.

4.2 An additional sixteen clubs shall be invited to take part in the Competition on the following basis:

4.2.1 the first clubs to receive an invitation will be up to sixteen Clubs that will be participating in the Premier League in the current Season and which operate a Category One Academy (in accordance with the Youth Development Rules). The order of priority will be based on first team finishing position in the immediately preceding Season (across both the Premier League and Championship Division of the League).

4.2.2 if less than sixteen Premier League clubs qualify and/or accept the invitation pursuant to Rule 4.2.1, the League shall then invite:

(i) firstly the three Clubs relegated from the Premier League in the previous Season (provided they operate a Category One Academy); and

(ii) then if required the next highest placed Club(s) operating a Category One Academy,

until such time as there are no more than sixteen clubs (or Clubs) accepting the invitation to participate,

and any club (or Club) accepted into the Competition in accordance with this Rule is an Invited Club.
Which suggests we'd get in, I was just going off what the club had said when we got the announcement of Cat 1

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:08 pm
Which suggests we'd get in, I was just going off what the club had said when we got the announcement of Cat 1
I suspect they were being cautious while weighing up the respective merits - it is a natural position for our club to take - they are never really gung ho (assertive) which is perfectly fine by me - I prefer the considered approach, it speaks of a professionalism.

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:24 pm

Surely it would be morally wrong of us to not enter and thereby deprive the fans of, say, Bolton Wanderers to have the thrill of playing against a team representing an established Premier League club !
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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:28 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:17 pm
I suspect they were being cautious while weighing up the respective merits - it is a natural position for our club to take - they are never really gung ho (assertive) which is perfectly fine by me - I prefer the considered approach, it speaks of a professionalism.
there is also the point tht we will not as yet have been formally invited i suspect - leagues still need to complete

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Post by dandeclaret » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:40 pm

dibraidio wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:57 pm
So has anybody changed their mind now that Burnley could have a team who could be eligible to play in this competition? Does anybody know the selection rules for those teams from the category One academies who do and don't participate?
Nope, think it’s reprehensible.
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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 pm

Totally against it.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:59 pm

I think it has ruined the competition but I suppose I’d have to go to the games for reporting purposes should we play in it.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Zlatan » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:02 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:24 pm
Surely it would be morally wrong of us to not enter and thereby deprive the fans of, say, Bolton Wanderers to have the thrill of playing against a team representing an established Premier League club !
That made me chuckle :D

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:54 am

Not likely to enter, at least for this season, according to Jon Pepper

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:04 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:54 am
Not likely to enter, at least for this season, according to Jon Pepper
Good.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by Rowls » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:13 pm

Sadly, it might be good practice for our youngsters if we think they're strong enough to enter.

And sadly I'd have to go and follow them (and attend if I could) because the players are representing Burnley FC.

But I'm fundamentally against the idea.

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Post by No Ney Never » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:45 pm

Don't like U21 teams in this competition, but since the organisers want them to participate and invite us to do so, then we ought to.

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Re: EFL trophy

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:56 pm

My priority is Burnley FC, so if it is good for our player's development, i'd want us to enter.

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