ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

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ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:26 am

Roy Keane apparently finds it necessary to talk about Steven Ward & Jon Walters

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:32 am

Keane has displayed his lack of class and/or loyalty for the sake of his own inflated ego throughout his career. From kissing the Forest badge and swearing loyalty to Notts a couple of days before kissing the united badge following the move... until today.

Vile individual.
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by CleggHall » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:37 am

What a nasty piece of work Keane is?
Has he ever enjoyed life?

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Fretters » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:41 am

What an arsehole. Seems to be completely unprovoked too, bringing up a game Walters and Ward apparently played badly in and saying they should watch it. Why? Have they both been speaking out lately? I can't find anything that suggests they have.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:46 am

I always remember that tackle by Keane on the Leeds Alfie Inge Haaland.....

We all know they had history...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42. ... 7/%3famp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Roy Keane is a whining nasty little **** as every one knows.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Bop » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:52 am

Horrible, unnecessary & pointless.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:02 pm

Agree it’s wrong but I watched an interview recently involving Walters and he was discussing his arguments with Keane which he’d have been better not airing, even if I did think they were great. Keane was always going to retaliate

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:18 pm

If ever the term ‘loose cannon’ was appropriate for someone it’s Keane. Beyond arrogant and as good as he was a player, his management record is not all that and should to an extent have shown him how to keep his trap shut..
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:26 pm

forget football, those remarks tell you all you need to know about keane a ****.
Its disrespectful to have a dig about football abilities, but the family stuff is disgraceful.
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:27 pm

I think he goes way beyond being a loose cannon - he's been at Walters for a few years now but Keane lashes out at just whoever he wants to lash out at.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:34 pm

He tries hard to keep up this hard man persona doesn’t he.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by whiffa » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:59 pm

I mean when it comes to slagging off Lingard and co', as a former Manchester United player who has achieved at the club I can accept it - but to slag off Ward and Walters for jobs they've done with Ireland and Ipswich? It's not like Keane did anything with Ipswich or Ireland is it? Needs to get off his high horse.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:06 pm

I think he's a great pundit, just not very good at coaching/managing - no doubt due to his very poor man-management skills.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:18 pm

Keane has always been like this, not sure why there needs to be an article, is it a slow news day or something :D Keane’s always been one to hold a grudge but he’s not wrong about Walters.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by whiffa » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:21 pm

MrTopTier wrote:Keane has always been like this, not sure why there needs to be an article, is it a slow news day or something :D Keane’s always been one to hold a grudge but he’s not wrong about Walters.
Giving someone grief over family issues is never called for. Judge his commitment and ability to football, fine.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Dyched » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:47 pm

Seen a few bits from Walters that he’s done recently. Comes across a right clown imo. What Keane has said is probably about right.

We’ve seen Owens comments about Newcastle the other day. Fans on here calling him disrespectful etc. Why? Fans abuse players none stop and cry when they talk back.

John Terry did it years back saying he won’t take **** from Robbie Savage. He cried too.

People need to stop mouthing off if they can’t take anything back. Especially if Roy Keane is involved.
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by claretblue » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:06 pm

Bosscat wrote:I always remember that tackle by Keane on the Leeds Alfie Inge Haaland.....

We all know they had history...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42. ... 7/%3famp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Roy Keane is a whining nasty little **** as every one knows.
disgusting tackle and following behavior against Haaland - Keane should have been thrown out of the game following that tackle (assault!)
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:12 pm

claretblue wrote:disgusting tackle and following behavior against Haaland - Keane should have been thrown out of the game following that tackle (assault!)
Maybe, but when a Burnley player did similar in 1994 against a Bolton player, all people can talk about it is them not giving us the ball back from a throw in.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:14 pm

Gayles was a bad tackle but it wasn’t premeditated like Keanes was.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:21 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Gayles was a bad tackle but it wasn’t premeditated like Keanes was.
I don’t think Kevin Ball’s on a young David Dunn was much better.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:38 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I don’t think Kevin Ball’s on a young David Dunn was much better.
Nothing like Gayle’s
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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:39 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I don’t think Kevin Ball’s on a young David Dunn was much better.
Bally’s tackle was great as it’s about the only positive thing about that game. We were never getting anything from that game tbh whether he walked or not imo. Men against boys as was proven at Ewood. Something else we needed to go through to get to our recent period of nearly 10 years undefeated.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Nothing like Gayle’s
I can’t remember Gayle’s to be honest. Ball’s was premeditated though and could have caused some serious damage.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:10 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I can’t remember Gayle’s to be honest. Ball’s was premeditated though and could have caused some serious damage.
I’d say Ball’s was a horribly mistimed challenge. Gayle’s was horrible. Spooner eventually successfully sued us.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by duncandisorderly » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’d say Ball’s was a horribly mistimed challenge. Gayle’s was horrible. Spooner eventually successfully sued us.

For what?

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:26 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:For what?
It ended his career. We actually settled out of court.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Hendrickxz » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:39 pm

Nasty piece of work, along with his former colleague Paul Wince!

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:30 pm

I hope Sean Dyche publicly defends his former players. Thats disgraceful.

Stephen Ward didn't put a foot wrong with Burnley Football Club. Jon Walters was terribly unlucky for us. Stoke fans had nothing but praise for him when he signed for us.

Whats all this stuff about talking a good game? Do you need to be a footballing superstar to be on the television or something? 500 league appearances give him enough credibility to talk a good game in my opinion. I think he's jealous because Walters is pipping him to tele work.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Roy Keane apparently finds it necessary to talk about Steven Ward & Jon Walters

See link
http://www.uptheclarets.com/roy-keane-s ... er-clarets" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Its off the back of this - https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/31 ... rry-arter/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:41 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Its off the back of this - https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/31 ... rry-arter/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It’s on the back of Ipswich

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:44 pm

Keane has always come across as a self-obsessed, dislikable tosspot.
But every now and then he comes out with stuff that really extends his reputation in the 'Odious' awards.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:44 pm

Think there is a lot of looking at this with claret tinted glasses on. Walters has been doing the circuit the last few months and has had an awful lot to say about Keane and how he would deck him.

Ward did release details of what happened via the whatsapp message either himself or a mate doing the dirty for him.

Also what on earth is a player going on international duty for saying he cant train properly and wanting free days. Surely you would retire and concentrate on league football.

Loved Ward but Walters I have no real opinion on. Was a player we never really needed and yes it was a shame what happened at Blackburn but because of that I will never really remember him as a Burnley player.

What Dyche does with us and the players self policing themselves works well at club level but when so many - Long, Brady, Hendrick, Walters, Ward - all go together on international duty I can see where problems might start arising. They will have been some of the more senior players there and probably much like in the 90's when UTD players went on England duty and expected everyone to tow their line. Keane would have took major umbrage at this and hasnt the personality to deal with it properly.

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:48 pm

Was one of these players (the one who was with us longest), the player responsible for the leaking of team selection on a friday before matches?

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Post by IAmAClaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:51 pm

Ward was an integral part of our team, up until the last year where Taylor nudged him out of the team. Not sure why he felt the need to act like a child telling everyone how 'bad' Keane is/was (see article above).

Walters did nothing for us, couldn't care less.

Whilst Keanes words may not be 'nice', he won a hell of a lot more than both of them combined.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:53 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:Whilst Keanes words may not be 'nice', he won a hell of a lot more than both of them combined.
So what?

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:59 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:Ward was an integral part of our team, up until the last year where Taylor nudged him out of the team. Not sure why he felt the need to act like a child telling everyone how 'bad' Keane is/was (see article above).

Walters did nothing for us, couldn't care less.

Whilst Keanes words may not be 'nice', he won a hell of a lot more than both of them combined.
He is still a complete **** for all his medals...
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Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:01 pm

https://www.offtheball.com/soccer/walte ... fer-901340" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the whole 6 minutes if you want a view.....nice, I don’t think

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:02 pm

He's a strange fella is Keane. No doubt that stubborn, confrontational mindset aided his playing career but now it means he's going to be remembered as much for being a bitter old man, being angry for money on TV occasionally. Shame really.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:04 pm

People that are more successful could have more class and certainly have no need to go on about medals etc....

He also belittled football clubs like Hull, Cardiff and Ipswich (who he managed) during the interview. There is absolutely no need to poke fun at someone’s career when they have been at a slightly lower level than yourself, particularly given he had arguably ended the career of one such player with his bad tackle. Perhaps he should ‘lie low’ as he is suggesting for Walters.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’d say Ball’s was a horribly mistimed challenge. Gayle’s was horrible. Spooner eventually successfully sued us.
That was a criminal assault. I thought we settled out of court in the end.

Ball's was fair enough, IMO, just mistimed :D

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:17 pm

boatshed bill wrote:That was a criminal assault. I thought we settled out of court in the end.

Ball's was fair enough, IMO, just mistimed :D
It was out of court

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’d say Ball’s was a horribly mistimed challenge. Gayle’s was horrible. Spooner eventually successfully sued us.
Really....mistimed tackle?

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... by-tackle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Doesnt come across as mistimed from the horses mouth. How can you mistime a challenge with both feet off the ground?

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:26 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Really....mistimed tackle?

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... by-tackle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Doesnt come across as mistimed from the horses mouth. How can you mistime a challenge with both feet off the ground?
:D :D

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Papabendi » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:33 pm

No doubt that objectively Ball's tackle could have ended a career.

But certain people have their favorites when it comes to players on here.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:40 pm

Papabendi wrote:No doubt that objectively Ball's tackle could have ended a career.

But certain people have their favorites when it comes to players on here.
Some people wouldn't get tongue in cheek if someone came up and licked their face ;)

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:49 pm

As he slowly disappears up his own rear end his last thought is. I need some publicity, folk have forgot me already.

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by willsclarets » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:47 pm

Anyone who gives Keane a manager's job wants their head seeing to. He comes across as pretty much the worst man manager of all time. The weird thing is he doesn't seem to be aware how alienating his personality is

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:50 pm

I honestly can’t imagine even his own wife liking him, the bank balance probably eases it but he’s the last person anyone would want to befriend

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:25 pm

make your own mind up (around the 25 min mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXPEXvLufJ0

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Re: ARTICLE: Roy Keane speaks out about two former Clarets

Post by sanderson370 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:32 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I think he's a great pundit, just not very good at coaching/managing - no doubt due to his very poor man-management skills.
I think he no good at either and is an arrogant.

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