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O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by ClaretDiver » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:26 pm

Received a call from 07368 177769 on my mobile today....didn't answer it. Tried calling it back and it would not connect.

Just been looking it up online and it seems it is a number from India. Glad I didn't answer it otherwise it could have cost me!

Beware, it comes up as a UK mobile number....

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:34 pm

Not being funny but why would you try calling back?

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:44 pm

There's absolutely no way an 073... number is Indian. That's not how the assigned number range system works.

Perhaps an Indian outfit is spoofing the number you see on screen. But you can't be ringing India on 07368...
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:48 pm

Can you be charged for answering any calls when in the UK?

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:14 pm

thatdberight wrote:There's absolutely no way an 073... number is Indian. That's not how the assigned number range system works.

Perhaps an Indian outfit is spoofing the number you see on screen. But you can't be ringing India on 07368...
You can be ringing India - they front these calls with UK numbers. I have a policy now, I don't call back numbers I don't recognise. If they are genuine and want to get in touch, they'll leave a message.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by ClaretDiver » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:19 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Not being funny but why would you try calling back?
I only tried calling it back BEFORE I checked it out....thankfully it would not connect!

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:36 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:I only tried calling it back BEFORE I checked it out....thankfully it would not connect!
I think he was asking why you would ignore the call and then call back? Rather than just answering in the first place.
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:45 pm

I'll often ignore calls if they aren't already in my phone. If they want me, they'll leave a voicemail.
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:51 pm

Have a BT phone (landline) with a block facility so scammers and numbers I am not interested in join the Blocked community...
The "we believe you were recently involved in an accident" callers...
The "your internet has been compromised" callers...
The "a sum of £600 has recently left your bank account to a foriegn bank" callers...
The "your Sky equipment warranty has expired" callers...

Similarly on my mobile etc .... the block facility is used daily

Of course this only works if a number is showing etc ... all number not known etc you cannot stop but it gives great pleasure having a block button to stomp on the parasites that ring and annoy with their bulls**t

Also you can try "07368 177769 who called me" by googling, you will find many people telling you what sort of garbage we have to put up with having a phone...
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:53 pm

Bosscat wrote:Have a BT phone (landline) with a block facility so scammers and numbers I am not interested in join the Blocked community...
The "we believe you were recently involved in an accident" callers...
The "your internet has been compromised" callers...
The "a sum of £600 has recently left your bank account to a foriegn bank" callers...
The "your Sky equipment warranty has expired" callers...

Similarly on my mobile etc .... the block facility is used daily

Of course this only works if a number is showing etc ... all number not known etc you cannot stop but it gives great pleasure having a block button to stomp on the parasites that ring and annoy with their bulls**t
I've had the "Have you been involved in an accident that wasn't your fault?" and just replied, "Yeah - because that's the definition of an accident".

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:55 pm

Bosscat wrote:Have a BT phone (landline) with a block facility so scammers and numbers I am not interested in join the Blocked community...
The "we believe you were recently involved in an accident" callers...
The "your internet has been compromised" callers...
The "a sum of £600 has recently left your bank account to a foriegn bank" callers...
The "your Sky equipment warranty has expired" callers...

Similarly on my mobile etc .... the block facility is used daily

Of course this only works if a number is showing etc ... all number not known etc you cannot stop but it gives great pleasure having a block button to stomp on the parasites that ring and annoy with their bulls**t
Wait. You have a landline?

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:14 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've had the "Have you been involved in an accident that wasn't your fault?" and just replied, "Yeah - because that's the definition of an accident".
I kept one on the phone for nearly 20 minutes one day last week - eventually they realised what I was up to when I finally gave them the registration of the car involved as CAR 1
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Gerry Hattrick » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:54 pm

"I've had the "Have you been involved in an accident that wasn't your fault?"...........

Last time I got one of these calls I told the woman that I hadn't, but that when she rang I was dashing to the toilet and if I didn't hang up sharpish I'd be having a rather nasty one for whichI suggested she might be to blame.
To give the lass her due, she burst out laughing, said "Hope you make it, have a nice day", and put the phone down.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:21 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:I only tried calling it back BEFORE I checked it out....thankfully it would not connect!


FactualFrank wrote:I'll often ignore calls if they aren't already in my phone. If they want me, they'll leave a voicemail.
I assumed you’d called before checking, I’m just wondering why you’d call a number you didn’t know.

Like Frank says I I don’t know the number calling I’ll ignore it. I’ll google the number to see who it is but I’d never call back even if genuine. If they really want me they’ll call me back

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You can be ringing India - they front these calls with UK numbers. I have a policy now, I don't call back numbers I don't recognise. If they are genuine and want to get in touch, they'll leave a message.
You might get put through to India but, as regards the OP's concern about cost, you can't be charged for calling India. An 073... is a UK mobile number. There are some 07s which are not standard (070 and 076 maybe?) but not 073...

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:18 pm

thatdberight wrote:You might get put through to India but, as regards the OP's concern about cost, you can't be charged for calling India. An 073... is a UK mobile number. There are some 07s which are not standard (070 and 076 maybe?) but not 073...
It’s a scam though and there have been people caught up spending huge amounts.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It’s a scam though and there have been people caught up spending huge amounts.
The other one is the automated call telling you to press "1" to speak to someone.... if you do when you get your bill you find a £75 charge (£15 a minute) ....

The scammers mainly target people of a certain age as they are the ones most likely to panic and be easily led.

Disgusting parasites and should be strung up from the nearest lamp-post
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:32 pm

I assume there are others, but I use this website - it's very useful and often quite informative.

https://who-called.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by PhilC » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:36 pm

This kind of scam is getting more common and affecting more and more vulnerable people every day. It really sickens me, especially when you think about the amount of money these 'companies' are making with no control or support from Indian authorities.

What I try to do is educate my family and friends into the tools and techniques used by scammers and get them to watch videos like this https://youtu.be/xb_rgQ4IDS8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The more we educate people into NOT being fooled the better chance we have to stop it.
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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:48 pm

Bosscat wrote:The other one is the automated call telling you to press "1" to speak to someone.... if you do when you get your bill you find a £75 charge (£15 a minute) ....
Have you an example of this reported anywhere?

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:50 pm

thatdberight wrote:Have you an example of this reported anywhere?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.this ... ess-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another scam is the "to stop receiving these texts reply with "STOP" and be charged £4.50 to stop the parasites sending unsolicited crap.

One of these is Allayclaims... who kept ringing me "about the accident that wasn't my fault" yet kept refering to me by a different name .... I emailed them and told them I had passed their details to the police and mysteriously all calls and texts stopped.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:05 pm

ClaretDiver wrote:Received a call from 07368 177769 on my mobile today....didn't answer it. Tried calling it back and it would not connect.

Just been looking it up online and it seems it is a number from India. Glad I didn't answer it otherwise it could have cost me!

Beware, it comes up as a UK mobile number....
It wouldnt cost a penny to ring it back

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:06 pm

Bosscat wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.this ... ess-1.html

Another scam is the "to stop receiving these texts reply with "STOP" and be charged £4.50 to stop the parasites sending unsolicited crap.

One of these is Allayclaims... who kept ringing me "about the accident that wasn't my fault" yet kept refering to me by a different name .... I emailed them and told them I had passed their details to the police and mysteriously all calls and texts stopped.
That's not "Press 1" and get hit for £15 a minute. I don't think such a scam exists.

That's not to say people shouldn't be careful.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:10 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've had the "Have you been involved in an accident that wasn't your fault?" and just replied, "Yeah - because that's the definition of an accident".
My boss loves those phone calls.

The last one was brilliant because my boss was telling the person on the phone that yeah he'd had an accident, but it was probably down to the drugs he'd been taking and could he still claim compensation despite not having a licence and no insurance etc.
Somehow that call lasted for about 30 mins :lol:

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:14 pm

thatdberight wrote:That's not "Press 1" and get hit for £15 a minute. I don't think such a scam exists.

That's not to say people shouldn't be careful.
OK it was an exageration but..... if you read the full report on

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.this ... ess-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

People are getting hit with £36 bills 10 minute calls at £3.60 a minute ....

You had asked for proof and I gave you it...

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:31 pm

I call my family from a Vonage IP phone here in Spain.

My number starts 01282...

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:31 pm

Bosscat wrote:OK it was an exageration but..... if you read the full report on

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.this ... ess-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

People are getting hit with £36 bills 10 minute calls at £3.60 a minute ....

You had asked for proof and I gave you it...
Because they ring back. Not by pressing "1". Phones aren't scary.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Leon_C » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:09 pm

https://www.area-codes.org.uk/mobile/#073" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This, I believe, is a reasonably reliable source of information.

It suggests that the number in question IS a UK mobile number. Thus, usually included on any tariff to call back.
I'm not aware of any possible scam where a UK mobile number beginning 073 could somehow incur premium rate charges.

070 numbers are something different - and are pseudo premium rate numbers... I think it's confusing and unfair for these to be so similar to conventional mobile numbers.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Stayingup » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:12 pm

The way to tell if its from overseas is if the call state a place in UK. For example I had one tonight that said Dorchester on my screen and then it takes a good 5 seconds for someone to speak. In these cases its a call probably from India. UK calls dont stipulate the place they are being made from. Well not on my phone anyway.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Stayingup » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Can you be charged for answering any calls when in the UK?
No I dont think you can. In which case why would it be a scam?

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Post by Stayingup » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:19 pm

Bosscat wrote:The other one is the automated call telling you to press "1" to speak to someone.... if you do when you get your bill you find a £75 charge (£15 a minute) ....

The scammers mainly target people of a certain age as they are the ones most likely to panic and be easily led.

Disgusting parasites and should be strung up from the nearest lamp-post
Haha. Pull(man) the other one.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Fretters » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:23 pm

I found I was getting loads from the same few companies. I'd block the number but they'd just use another. So, I just started wasting their time - giving them fake info, playing sound boards down the phone to them etc. They soon gave up.

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:18 pm

Wangiri scams seem to be the in thing at the moment. Often phoning you and hanging up after 1 ring. Then when you call back you end up being connected at an i stant extortionate rate. Some have been traced to the carribean and can be £600 just to make the call and have it answered

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:58 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:...can be £600 just to make the call and have it answered
Have you got a source for this?

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:05 pm

thatdberight wrote:Have you got a source for this?
Will try to find it...but this link is what eventually led me to it when looking into further

https://conversation.which.co.uk/money/ ... ake-calls/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: O/T India Telephone Number Scam

Post by thatdberight » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:09 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Will try to find it...but this link is what eventually led me to it when looking into further

https://conversation.which.co.uk/money/ ... ake-calls/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Which is interesting, and people should be aware of it, but unrelated.

Wangiri scam absolutely does exist - it's the £600 just for dialling that I'm not immediately convinced by.

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