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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Dazzler » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:58 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Probably because we don't look further afield than the Championship. We have millions of pounds in the bank and there is a whole world of central midfielders out there, many of whom would jump at the chance to come and play in the Premiership.
We can't conscript them if they don't want to come.

Btw,name them players..
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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:08 pm

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by LeadBelly » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 pm

Re link above.
I've dipped into a couple of Chelsea forums today too. Pretty similar stuff to what's on this thread- probably a bit more venomous because of the £35 million they spent on him (before wages come into it).

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:59 pm

Literally an article about what random people have tweeted. Is this what constitutes journalism these days?

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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:04 pm

What the hell were Chelsea thinking when they signed him? Just checked and his contract doesn't expire till 2022, must have given him a 5 year deal :lol:

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Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:06 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Literally an article about what random people have tweeted. Is this what constitutes journalism these days?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Obviously

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:17 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Literally an article about what random people have tweeted. Is this what constitutes journalism these days?
I’m afraid so - it’s awful.

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Post by paulatky » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:28 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Have the clairvoyants been on yet to tell us they knew the deal was going to end in tears, and/or that we shouldn't have signed him?
The clairvoyants were Paul Fletcher and Alistair Campbell whose book Saturday Bloody Saturday starred a big name transfer from a London club who also liked the ladies .The player in the book was DD

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:36 pm

Nothing wrong with liking the ladies. The problem is liking other blokes ladies. Oh, and a drink. Mix the two and you’ve got bovva.
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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:51 pm

I've said above, that from a purely business point of view I would get rid of DD.
However, I do actually feel really sorry for the guy.
His name & character are being dragged through the mud in all areas of the media.
He will realise that he is in deep poo with both Chelsea & Burnley management, staff and fans alike.
I know he has brought it on himself but I don't think I would change places with him at the moment.

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by tim_noone » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:30 pm

Am I understanding this Lads Been Assaulted by a group of other Lads And the normal way of thinking is to apprehend the culprits?
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Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:44 pm

tim_noone wrote:Am I understanding this Lads Been Assaulted by a group of other Lads And the normal way of thinking is to apprehend the culprits?
Not so straight forward I wouldn't think as apparently DD didn't report anything at the time and according to one report even flew to Spain to try to get his facial injuries to look a bit better before he had to report back to the club. He was less than forthcoming to people, including BFC, about what had really happened, which all kind of points to him waking up and thinking he was probably as much aggressor as victim. Even assuming there's CC tv, the police might find it hard to catch and bring charges against the lads if DD didn't want to stand up and give evidence as he would actually implicate himself.

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:51 pm

Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when he met Dyche today

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by mkmel » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:52 pm

I don't know but is Danny Drinkwater married or is he divorced or separated?

To me that would also say a lot about him if he has a wife at home

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:54 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when he met Dyche today
And I wouldn’t have been moving away from the wall. I’ve posted previously that I reckon Dyche will have read him the riot act but I also reckon he’s as good a manager as he could have to work with him and help him.

I reckon Dyche will take him to the WATER but up to him whether he wants to DRINK it.
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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Longsider » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:55 pm

Being Lazy and can't be @rsed reading back through the thread so can someone tell me what happened today. Did he meet Dyche? and is he still on loan at BFC or has the loan deal been ended.
Ta.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:55 pm

Longsider wrote:Being Lazy and can't be @rsed reading back through the thread so can someone tell me what happened today. Did he meet Dyche? and is he still on loan at BFC or has the loan deal been ended.
Ta.
Wouldn’t expect anything to be made public but not expecting him to leave.

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Post by Longsider » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote:not expecting him to leave.
Good. Let's move on and try and get something from him.
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Post by mkmel » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:06 pm

I have spoken with a Chelsea supporter who was really pleased that Drinkwater had left Chelsea on loan and he and other Chelsea supporters want shot of him

It is probable that he will never play for Chelsea again so it would not surprise me if his contract was cancelled by mutual consent at some stage or he was let go for a minimal fee

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:07 pm

mkmel wrote:I have spoken with a Chelsea supporter who was really pleased that Drinkwater had left Chelsea on loan and he and other Chelsea supporters want shot of him

It is probable that he will never play for Chelsea again so it would not surprise me if his contract was cancelled by mutual consent at some stage or he was let go for a minimal fee
My word, he must be important if he can speak for other Chelsea fans too.
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Re: Drink water injury

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:11 pm

mkmel wrote:I have spoken with a Chelsea supporter who was really pleased that Drinkwater had left Chelsea on loan and he and other Chelsea supporters want shot of him

It is probable that he will never play for Chelsea again so it would not surprise me if his contract was cancelled by mutual consent at some stage or he was let go for a minimal fee
DD will know he's never going to earn 100 grand a week again in his life though. If he wants to sit tight till the end of his contract not much Chelsea can do about it.

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Post by mkmel » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:11 pm

Obviously he has spoken to fellow Chelsea supporters face to face and also online......

I thought that would have been..... obvious!

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by LS7 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:25 pm

Bye bye Danny. There is no place at Turf Moor for a 29 year old in tight ripped jeans.
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Post by DCWat » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:06 am

It does partly call into question the importance that we place on having the right characters in our squad. Something that by accounts we place a great deal of focus upon. It may just be unfortunate but it’s not the first time he’s been in the press for the wrong reasons.

Hopefully he learns from this and knuckles down.

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:04 am

mkmel wrote:I don't know but is Danny Drinkwater married or is he divorced or separated?

To me that would also say a lot about him if he has a wife at home
I remember reading something along the lines of us looking at players who were in that situation rather than younger, single players.

I think it was used to describe why we didn't sign Grosicki.

I'm quite sure that Drinkwater's signing would have been permanent if it wasn't for us being unsure about his ways. Good from the club that they didn't offer a straight out deal, imagine the meltdown right now if we paid 10m for him!

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by superdimitri » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:06 am

PS, is it something about Chelsea players trying it on with other partners wives/gf's? I bet John Terry sent him a text after the news went viral.

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by HunterST_BFC » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:29 am

Nonayforever wrote:I've said above, that from a purely business point of view I would get rid of DD.
However, I do actually feel really sorry for the guy.
His name & character are being dragged through the mud in all areas of the media.
He will realise that he is in deep poo with both Chelsea & Burnley management, staff and fans alike.
I know he has brought it on himself but I don't think I would change places with him at the moment.
" but I don't think I would change places with him at the moment."

Are you kidding? I'd swap now given my position.
I Would. But I'd put in the effort.
On The Cash He Is On...........

Clueless and loaded
FFS
The Guy needs binning - fast.
Ideas above his station regards how to live. Loaded and could not give a Fek about BFC or Chelsea for that matter...........

Waste of talent - our time - our cash - and if you push me further - oxygen.

Didn't he actually FO to Spain rather than face the music? Rather than go to the club?

Get him far away. Thick idiot. Let him sap Chelsea for the rest of his contract.

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Post by SalouClaret » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:


Waste of talent - our time - our cash - and if you push me further - oxygen.

Waste of oxygen? Really?

Drinking heavily on a Monday night wasn't your best idea.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:36 am

SalouClaret wrote:Waste of oxygen? Really?

Drinking heavily on a Monday night wasn't your best idea.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Waste of Oxygen.... ‘chatting up someone else’s girl’. He hasn’t actually done anything illegal, he’s made a small mistake that has escalated (beyond belief to some) I’ve not seen such an over reaction for a long time! I’m
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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:18 am

Burnley1989 wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

Waste of Oxygen.... ‘chatting up someone else’s girl’. He hasn’t actually done anything illegal, he’s made a small mistake that has escalated (beyond belief to some) I’ve not seen such an over reaction for a long time! I’m
That's very true, but what seems to have emerged (and I didn't know any of this before) is that it's not his first issue and Chelsea don't never play him and want shut asap for no reason. What seems to be coming through is that he's developed into a bit of a bad egg and needs to straighten himself out, but we've only got him for 4 months and if it takes him 3 to get himself in the right mind set and physically fit, then he's not much use to us.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:41 am

superdimitri wrote:I remember reading something along the lines of us looking at players who were in that situation rather than younger, single players.

I think it was used to describe why we didn't sign Grosicki.

I'm quite sure that Drinkwater's signing would have been permanent if it wasn't for us being unsure about his ways. Good from the club that they didn't offer a straight out deal, imagine the meltdown right now if we paid 10m for him!
We pulled out of the Grosicki deal at the last minute because of his gambling debts. As for Drinkwater, don't think there was ever any suggestion of us signing him permanently, we couldn't afford him.

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Post by Blackrod » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:33 am

I’m struggling to see how DD is motivated to play for us. We’ve given him an opportunity to earn a shirt. I’m not sure he really wants it. The players generally do well keeping out of the press and I’m sure this has something to do with Dyche and mutual respect. Even Barton went on twitter much less and generally kept the club out of tweets whilst here. We don’t hear of Westwood and Cork going out and making twits of themselves and if I was them I wouldn’t be happy losing a place to DD after this.

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Post by Papabendi » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:33 am

it really depends if he is motivated by first team football anymore.

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Post by MACCA » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:21 pm

I cant comment on DD, I cant even tell a tale about a guy I know these days, all deleted.

Dare not play guess the gate next time, as if I'm correct itll disappear :lol: :lol:

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:24 pm

MACCA wrote:I cant comment on DD, I cant even tell a tale about a guy I know these days, all deleted.

Dare not play guess the gate next time, as if I'm correct itll disappear :lol: :lol:
No doubt the club is asking for certain things to be kept off the messageboard. You scratch my back I'll scratch yours can be a very good game to play at times

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Post by MACCA » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:40 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:No doubt the club is asking for certain things to be kept off the messageboard. You scratch my back I'll scratch yours can be a very good game to play at times


I see, but I only mentioned Mr Smith and what he has been upto. Or do you think people will put 2 and 2 together?

Like the other stuff, the truth will come out in the end

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Post by bfcjg » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We pulled out of the Grosicki deal at the last minute because of his gambling debts. As for Drinkwater, don't think there was ever any suggestion of us signing him permanently, we couldn't afford him.
An online betting company are subsidising Rooney's wage, should the board just give Wetherspoons a ring ?

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:01 pm

MACCA wrote:Like the other stuff, the truth will come out in the end


Yep but only when the paymaster is good and ready im afraid

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Post by BleedingClaret » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:04 pm

LS7 wrote:Bye bye Danny. There is no place at Turf Moor for a 29 year old in tight ripped jeans.
Unless you pin Jayrod down and cut his hair, then you're forgiven...

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:24 pm

Looks like he's escaped the axe,time for him to knuckle Down and repay that faith shown in him.

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We pulled out of the Grosicki deal at the last minute because of his gambling debts. As for Drinkwater, don't think there was ever any suggestion of us signing him permanently, we couldn't afford him.
Yeah I know re-Grosicki but I was talking about something Dyche said in an article afterwards. Can't find it now.

Its looking like his value to Chelsea has dropped so much since they signed him that I wouldn't have been surprised if we signed him permanently. As the chairman recently said wages are no longer a problem, and we could certainly afford to pay his transfer fee which would have dropped considerably.

Anyhow, its just good it wasn't permanent. At least so far.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:12 pm

superdimitri wrote:Yeah I know re-Grosicki but I was talking about something Dyche said in an article afterwards. Can't find it now.

Its looking like his value to Chelsea has dropped so much since they signed him that I wouldn't have been surprised if we signed him permanently. As the chairman recently said wages are no longer a problem, and we could certainly afford to pay his transfer fee which would have dropped considerably.

Anyhow, its just good it wasn't permanent. At least so far.
Wages might not be a problem competing with some clubs but we can't sign players from clubs like Chelsea when players are under long term contracts because their wages are a million miles from what we can afford.

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Wages might not be a problem competing with some clubs but we can't sign players from clubs like Chelsea when players are under long term contracts because their wages are a million miles from what we can afford.
If that's true we wouldn't be able to afford a loan either. Much like loans there can be contractual agreements for the selling club to pay part of their wages. Aside from that, if he is earning 5m a year that's still only 2.5 per year more than what we already pay some players. With the release of Defour that opens up the budget to be equal in wages to keeping Defour and signing another player.

I don't think signing him permanently was out of the question at all, not saying it wouldn't be hard but I don't think it's impossible. I think the club made the right call anyhow.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:02 pm

superdimitri wrote:If that's true we wouldn't be able to afford a loan either. Much like loans there can be contractual agreements for the selling club to pay part of their wages. Aside from that, if he is earning 5m a year that's still only 2.5 per year more than what we already pay some players. With the release of Defour that opens up the budget to be equal in wages to keeping Defour and signing another player.

I don't think signing him permanently was out of the question at all, not saying it wouldn't be hard but I don't think it's impossible. I think the club made the right call anyhow.
Signing him permanently with him on the money he's on at Chelsea is virtually impossible and would not be in the club's best interests. 5m might only be 2.5m more than we are paying some, but that's double and losing a wage doesn't justify that. I think signing him permanently was totally out of the question unless Chelsea were going to continue paying a large slice of his wage.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:15 pm

If he can impress between now and January, enough to impress SD then his wage offer should be in line with other players and not a penny more. His behaviour has determined his future earning potential. If he doesn't like it then bye bye Danny.

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:30 pm

A lot of it will have to do with what he wants. He, similar to Defour could take a settlement or we could offer to sign him if Chelsea pay the difference on the remainder of their contact with him.

I don't understand why it wouldn't be possible and I don't think we would have signed a player without the possibility of making it permanent anyway, that's just not the Dyche way unless the deal is clearly for backup only.

You wouldn't think we would be able to afford Hart either but I'm sure some kind of payment deal was done with Manchester city to offload him.

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:38 pm

But we mustn't fall into the trap of paying him on his past playing achievements. He has ripped that up and his bargaining power starts again from zero in my book. There won't be a queue of clubs willing to top any offer we make.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:00 pm

I think before any offer is considered, is that he knuckles down and does what he was brought here for and stops fannying around getting in the National's.

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Post by IanMcL » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Signing him permanently with him on the money he's on at Chelsea is virtually impossible and would not be in the club's best interests. 5m might only be 2.5m more than we are paying some, but that's double and losing a wage doesn't justify that. I think signing him permanently was totally out of the question unless Chelsea were going to continue paying a large slice of his wage.
Joe Hart.

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Re: Drink water injury

Post by Goobs » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:23 pm

IanMcL wrote:Joe Hart.
And if DD turns out to be as good a signing as JH...... :shock:

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