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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:50 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Buttler might as well start swinging.

This, having 30 mins at these with the lights on tonight could be more valuable than 20more runs...

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Spijed » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:01 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Has 22 always been a failure for you? What's the lowest score you would describe as alright.

All about opinion but I would say a start or chipping in for the team.

Single figures is a failure.
Not always, but like others he never seems to stay around for long when the team need him to occupy the crease.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:04 pm

Let’s have a positive post - we’ve reached 250
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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Spijed » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:47 pm

271-8 close

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Let’s have a positive post - we’ve reached 250
When Curran went, then Woakes just after, and with Josh not looking comfortable,250 looked a pipe dream.
Leach is getting a good limpet tag in Tests!
Nice to see Josh waking up.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:02 pm

Even the best bowlers in the world (Hazlewood) find it much tougher when they are put under pressure ( by Butler). We were looking like 230 max so 271-8 is ok. I would also bat Leach above Archer. Its great to have somebody who can defend and hold an end up late in the innings

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:57 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Buttler might as well start swinging.
Jos apart and Leach in the last hour showing spirit once more abysmal effort.

One of Burns or Root has to make a ton after getting well in,271-8 on that track looks a hundred or so short.

I'll wager Australia will manage 400+ when their turn in the middle comes.

The annoyance is that they didn't bowl fantastic,far too many cheap dismissals yet again.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:58 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:When Curran went, then Woakes just after, and with Josh not looking comfortable,250 looked a pipe dream.
Leach is getting a good limpet tag in Tests!
Nice to see Josh waking up.

Who's josh?

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Longsidelenny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:06 pm

Haslewood

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Spijed » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:06 pm

tiger76 wrote:The annoyance is that they didn't bowl fantastic,far too many cheap dismissals yet again.
The Australians know that almost every England batsman can't help themselves and all they have to do is dangle that carrot and wait.

And soon after, a wicket falls. It's all far too predictable.

We need to learn how to play test cricket. Some say the lure of T20 etc. is to blame yet I'm sure plenty of the Aussies play the shorter game for big money.

Yet their attitude is far more professional.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:22 pm

Local cricketer wrote:Who's josh?
Clerical error.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:24 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Clerical error.

Once I can forgive, you did it twice. Josh did bowl well though

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:43 pm

Yep.

I'll have a stern word with my Auto Spell Thingy.


Did you know who I meant though?

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:45 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Has 22 always been a failure for you? What's the lowest score you would describe as alright.

All about opinion but I would say a start or chipping in for the team.

Single figures is a failure.
I would call 22 a failure and in many way, worse than a single figure score. If they’ve got to 20, then they’ve got a start and should be in a good position to go on.

Getting a good ball early and nicking off for single figures happens.

Having said that, I would always judge more on the nature of the dismissal i.e. whether they got a good ball or played a poor shot.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:22 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I would call 22 a failure and in many way, worse than a single figure score. If they’ve got to 20, then they’ve got a start and should be in a good position to go on.

Getting a good ball early and nicking off for single figures happens.

Having said that, I would always judge more on the nature of the dismissal i.e. whether they got a good ball or played a poor shot.
But Australia have been fantastic in their plans and pressure put on the batsman.
You have to score in cricket,even in Test matches.

Add to that the great balls they throw down,it's not easy even when you get to 20.

If we manage to get over 300 it will be a good score for us.

Far too much negativity on this thread.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by timshorts » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:34 pm

I don't think buttler has been too bad. He's hung around more than most, ended up getting out when paired with tail enders, got at least one iffy decision, was run out by stokes when it clearly wSnt his fault.

That makes him a better bet than most of our batters.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Longsidelenny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:36 pm

Well said tempo come on England and up the colne

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:37 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:But Australia have been fantastic in their plans and pressure put on the batsman.
You have to score in cricket,even in Test matches.

Add to that the great balls they throw down,it's not easy even when you get to 20.

If we manage to get over 300 it will be a good score for us.

Far too much negativity on this thread.
I think you have low expectations.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:57 pm

We'll see how the Aussies bat tomorrow whether 300 is par or not,but at 170-3 you'd expect 350+,the Buttler/Leach partnership has at least given Archer,Broad & co something to bowl with,but i still think we're at least 50 runs too light in our 1st innings.

And Root and Archer apart the rest of the wickets were poor shots,chasing at wide balls which could have easily been left,Curran is a prime example,hits a couple of boundaries and then slashes to slip going for a big drive.

The positives are Root passed 7,000 test runs.

This stat :o me about Buttler i thought he'd had a poor run,but these figures say different.

Since his recall in May 2018, Jos Buttler has made more 50+ scores in than any England batsman in Tests and has a higher average (36.51) than anyone in the current side.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:25 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Yep.

I'll have a stern word with my Auto Spell Thingy.


Did you know who I meant though?

Yes Ricky Flintoff I think
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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by willsclarets » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:48 am

Par score average at The Oval in a first innings is about 370. We'll be well short of that but both teams are weak down the batting order. The difference is Steve Smith, if we can get him out we'll topple them for less than 300. If he gets in it'll be 400+ and goodnight.
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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:11 am

willsclarets wrote:Par score average at The Oval in a first innings is about 370. We'll be well short of that but both teams are weak down the batting order. The difference is Steve Smith, if we can get him out we'll topple them for less than 300. If he gets in it'll be 400+ and goodnight.
If we can get Steve Smith out :lol:

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:15 am

Rileybobs wrote:If we can get Steve Smith out :lol:
The only two who seem to be able to get Smith out are Warner & Bancroft with a bit of ball tampering.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:18 am

Buttler gone for 70. Now 294/9.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:26 am

294 all out

Buttler inside edge onto pad onto stumps
Leach played on

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:29 am

294 all out daft cricket from Buttler this morning,just stay in and accumulate. :roll:

5 for from Mitchell Marsh.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:48 am

Warner out for 5,Jofra strikes early,if we can somehow get Labuschagne and Smith out before lunch,this game's still in the balance.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:48 am

Warner gone 5 fer1

Archer with the wicket on review

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:50 am

Warner has been one of the highlights of the series. 84 runs now in nine innings.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:55 am

ClaretTony wrote:Warner has been one of the highlights of the series. 84 runs now in nine innings.
More like lowlights of the series or lowlife of the series...

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:57 am

Id be amazed if the Aussies and Smith aren't still batting tomorrow morning.

Fingers crossed!

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:58 am

Warner is the first batsman ever to get 8 single scores in a Test series.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:06 pm

14-2! Good start!

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:06 pm

Now for the limpet

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:10 pm

At least Australian messageboards will be in meltdown now.
If they're awake that is?

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:12 pm

These are the 2 though!

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:33 pm

Labuschagne should of been out caught down the leg side earlier but we didn't review.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:19 pm

Could be a long afternoon for England,Smith and his Doppelganger are weaving a familiar tale,getting the openers has been a doddle,then these two come together and make batting look easy.

Jofra's bowling well on this track,and Curran's looked threatening,but the wickets England need aren't falling.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by MACCA » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Will pop back on tomorrow to see how Smith is getting on....

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:28 pm

Smith simply boring the bowlers to sleep. Apart from Lampshade edging the odd 4 is all very predictable

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:32 pm

Commentators curse

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:35 pm

Brilliant by Bairstow. Funniest ever

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:50 pm

I just wish Root would give Curran and Woakes a bit more protection.
One out on each boundary.
If your trying to bowl wicket taking balls you will give scoring opportunities.
Let them bowl bigger spells as they won't go for as many.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:13 pm

Curran gets Wade LBW

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:16 pm

118-4. Cheat still there

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:20 pm

The Aussie batting is no better than England's with one notable exception,until England get Smith out they'll not feel comfortable.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:34 pm

Just stop him scoring by bowling wide down leg. Takes him out of the game completely. Very inspecting and against the spirit of the game but NOT cheating.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by tiger76 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Just stop him scoring by bowling wide down leg. Takes him out of the game completely. Very inspecting and against the spirit of the game but NOT cheating.
You're not the first person to suggest this tactic,would it work who knows,but until you try it you'll never know,nothing else has worked so far.

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:16 pm

Take away his ability to score and then HE has the problem. At the moment he does the reverse to our bowlers. He is suffocating them with his leave or turn to leg game plan

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Re: England vs Australia 5th test

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:33 pm

Root drops Smith. Catches win matches. Oh dear

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