ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:03 pm

Out for a couple of weeks and then up to him

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:06 pm

All done and dusted and up to the player - good news on Brady & McNeil although I would think Brady will have to wait a while to get a start with Dwight now in front of him.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm

A much more sensible and mature approach to dealing with the matter rather than just saying send him back
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Re: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:10 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:A much more sensible and mature approach to dealing with the matter rather than just saying send him back
I would have thought so. It seems Dyche hasn't looked at some of the hysterical overreaction on here.
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:43 pm

Imagine Dyche has probably dealt with the facts and spoken to the player rather than just go off what was written in The Sun.

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Post by Down_Rover » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:04 pm

A very mature approach.

History suggests to me that the fitness update means that we will be without Drinkwater, JBG, McNeil and Brady.

Cue uproar on a shocking transfer window

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:13 pm

Down_Rover wrote:A very mature approach.

History suggests to me that the fitness update means that we will be without Drinkwater, JBG, McNeil and Brady.

Cue uproar on a shocking transfer window
I reckon McNeil will start with Brady on the bench.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:13 pm

Down_Rover wrote:History suggests to me that the fitness update means that we will be without Drinkwater, JBG, McNeil and Brady
McNeil & Brady fit - I don't expect JBG to be involved

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:28 pm

Hope Drinkwater has agreed along with Chelsea to a pay when play deal now

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Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I would have thought so. It seems Dyche hasn't looked at some of the hysterical overreaction on here.
Hardly the first, or last, footballer to have a night out.

If there's a culture of hard work and responsibility then these guys tend to feel like the odd one out and knuckle down.
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Post by Longsidelenny » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:39 pm

Dyche asked drinkwater I know the lads in the nightclub wanted to break your legs but did you take the girl home with you

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:44 pm

Longsidelenny wrote:Dyche asked drinkwater I know the lads in the nightclub wanted to break your legs but did you take the girl home with you

Hopefully more if he is getting a rumoured 50k a week from us ;)

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Post by Grumps » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I would have thought so. It seems Dyche hasn't looked at some of the hysterical overreaction on here.
I can assure you Sean doesn't look on here to decide what decisions to make

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:47 pm

Sensible approach from a sensible manager.

We all make mistakes. And Drinkwater has made a few. This particular one may not have even been his fault but ultimately he put himself in that situation. As a professional footballer you cant afford to do that.

I am sure if there is any manager who can A) Help get him on the right road and B) be mature enough to realise that people **** up but deserve a chance. Then its Sean dyche.

Hopefully he comes back fit and hungry and we have a top player on our hands. Now and beyond January. And hopefuly we can laugh at the kneejerk reactions when he becomes a critical player for us.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:58 pm

Just as I expected.
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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm

Another frustrating injury for JBG. Seems to regularly pick up niggles that keep him out for a few weeks. We're lucky that Cork & Westwood are a lot more durable in that respect
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:25 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Imagine Dyche has probably dealt with the facts and spoken to the player rather than just go off what was written in The Sun.
But how did the sun find out about it?
We can be fairly confident that the six (if it was 6) so-called thugs didn't report it.

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:30 pm

If we're saying 2 weeks out the reality is probably 6-8 weeks. Then once he's caught up, he might be Dyche fit by December. All the while picking up about 50 grand a week from us.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:41 pm

jrgbfc wrote:If we're saying 2 weeks out the reality is probably 6-8 weeks. Then once he's caught up, he might be Dyche fit by December. All the while picking up about 50 grand a week from us.
You’ve really got a bee in your bonnet about Drinkwater :lol:

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Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:43 pm

Down_Rover wrote: Cue uproar on a shocking transfer window
I wouldn’t have called it amazing.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:48 pm

Not claiming to know the details of the incident he was involved in, but when loyal supporters , many of whom are on low incomes, pay and travel to watch their team, you'd at least expect a bit of decency and application from someone on thousands of pounds a week .
Burnley fans want 100 % commitment from the team, really poor showing if they disregard the paying public by not giving a toss.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:50 pm

jrgbfc wrote:If we're saying 2 weeks out the reality is probably 6-8 weeks. Then once he's caught up, he might be Dyche fit by December. All the while picking up about 50 grand a week from us.

This is it.

We are spending £50k a week on a player who may yet prove to be absolutely no use to us.

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Post by burnley007 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:02 pm

boatshed bill wrote:This is it.

We are spending £50k a week on a player who may yet prove to be absolutely no use to us.
Or we might be paying £50k a week for an England international who comes back to form and signs a permanent deal in a few months...

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Post by TomtheClaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:05 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:Not claiming to know the details of the incident he was involved in, but when loyal supporters , many of whom are on low incomes, pay and travel to watch their team, you'd at least expect a bit of decency and application from someone on thousands of pounds a week .
Burnley fans want 100 % commitment from the team, really poor showing if they disregard the paying public by not giving a toss.
Had it been night before a game or even 2 or 3. I would have understood. But this was 2 weeks!
Clarke Carlisle had a drink problem and a drink drive conviction, before becoming a claret. Often afforded legend status and has slipped again since.
Keith Treacey speaks very highly of Dyche support he received.
What if with Dyche back DD turns things around? Feels debted to us after little support from Sari last year?
All what ifs I know. But come on 50k a week or not.
And if he does have drink issues. Criticism will hinder he recovery.
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:14 pm

TomtheClaret wrote:Had it been night before a game or even 2 or 3. I would have understood. But this was 2 weeks!
Clarke Carlisle had a drink problem and a drink drive conviction, before becoming a claret. Often afforded legend status and has slipped again since.
Keith Treacey speaks very highly of Dyche support he received.
What if with Dyche back DD turns things around? Feels debted to us after little support from Sari last year?
All what ifs I know. But come on 50k a week or not.
And if he does have drink issues. Criticism will hinder he recovery.
none of that is relevant in any shape or form, and if you think for one minute it was acceptable whenever it occured, then you are a mug.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:15 pm

burnley007 wrote:Or we might be paying £50k a week for an England international who comes back to form and signs a permanent deal in a few months...
If we get him back to form he will sign for a bigger club than Burnley.

We are doing Chelsea a favour here.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:16 pm

TomtheClaret wrote:Had it been night before a game or even 2 or 3. I would have understood. But this was 2 weeks!
Clarke Carlisle had a drink problem and a drink drive conviction, before becoming a claret. Often afforded legend status and has slipped again since.
Keith Treacey speaks very highly of Dyche support he received.
What if with Dyche back DD turns things around? Feels debted to us after little support from Sari last year?
All what ifs I know. But come on 50k a week or not.
And if he does have drink issues. Criticism will hinder he recovery.
But they were Burnley players. Drinkwater is not.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:But they were Burnley players. Drinkwater is not.
That’s exactly what Drinkwater is - he’s a Burnley player
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:If we get him back to form he will sign for a bigger club than Burnley.

We are doing Chelsea a favour here.
If we get him back to form then we benefit
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Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:22 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:Not claiming to know the details of the incident he was involved in, but when loyal supporters , many of whom are on low incomes, pay and travel to watch their team, you'd at least expect a bit of decency and application from someone on thousands of pounds a week .
Burnley fans want 100 % commitment from the team, really poor showing if they disregard the paying public by not giving a toss.

SOME of our fans can't accept any criticism whatsoever of BFC, it's holdings or directors, assets or staff, then have the indecency to mock those who find such behaviour troubling.
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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That’s exactly what Drinkwater is - he’s a Burnley player
On a very temporary basis. He's listed in Chelsea's "out on loan" squad section.
I'm sure I could quote you as saying we could never afford him earlier this week.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:34 pm

Strange signing to begin with and obviously a panic buy and each week it looks even worse than back in August when it was announced - more cash thrown away

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:On a very temporary basis. He's listed in Chelsea's "out on loan" squad section.
I'm sure I could quote you as saying we could never afford him earlier this week.
As Dyche said today, he’s our player while he’s here and the club will support him.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:36 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Strange signing to begin with and obviously a panic buy and each week it looks even worse than back in August when it was announced - more cash thrown away
Wasn’t a panic but at all, might have completed on the final day but had been going on for over a week before that.

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:As Dyche said today, he’s our player while he’s here and the club will support him.
Sean Dyche is an honourable man.
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:10 pm

The right approach.

JBG though, when he got injured it was ‘nothing serious’ Or something along those lines. That was 3 weeks ago. #touchandgo
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Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:12 pm

Whatever this is, it isn’t a ‘Happy Clapper’ thing. That is to do with supporting, by positive strokes and appreciating the positives and not dwelling for too long on the negatives when they crop up because we are trending in the right direction.
This is more about people who want to make known their feelings on the principles and ethics and their own core values and all those things that are related. Reminds me of James Mason and his role in the film, Spring and Port Wine. He was the strong domineering patriarch, unbending and unyielding. Choose your side, SD is not playing that role and after due consideration, I am lining up behind him. Club critics are still free to choose either side, it will not make them a Happy Clapper if they agree with SD on this one.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm

I said when this went public that SD was the man to make the right decision. His explanation today was sound. It will have elevated the perception of BFC to any professional footballer out there who has monitored this situation.

A lot of Cloughie has rubbed off on Sean . Remember the fan he punched when he ran on the pitch during a Forest game. Back page of the tabloids two days later was Cloughie giving the same fan a peck on the cheek. You can't put that in any MANAGEMENT TRAINING manual. Ask Joey Barton what he thinks of our manager

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:29 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:The right approach.

JBG though, when he got injured it was ‘nothing serious’ Or something along those lines. That was 3 weeks ago. #touchandgo
Dyche said after the Liverpool game that JBG was doubtful for Brighton

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 pm

The guy is a **** bag.
Will get some stick from me from the terraces.

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:The guy is a **** bag.
Will get some stick from me from the terraces.
Get behind them when they pull the Shirt on ffs... he will get enough from the away end without our lot as well.

When he pulls the Claret and Blue of Burnley on he should get support not flak.

If Sean had sent him home fair enough but Sean has seen fit to support the lad ... so should we.
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Post by Nonayforever » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:As Dyche said today, he’s our player while he’s here and the club will support him.
Apparently we are supporting him to the tune of 50 grand per week to get ******.
You can tell it's not SD paying his wages from his own pocket.

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm

A dick move but having a asshole in the team can be a good thing if he shows it on the pitch. Ask Joey Barton, Roy Keane etc. Here's hoping he turns it around.

Mr Dyche needs to spend a night out with him and Joey. A quiet curry and a few beers might do the trick. For Danny, the non-alcoholic variety.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm

Bosscat wrote:Get behind them when they pull the Shirt on ffs... he will get enough from the away end without our lot as well.

When he pulls the Claret and Blue of Burnley on he should get support not flak.

If Sean had sent him home fair enough but Sean has seen fit to support the lad ... so should we.
Sorry, he crossed the line.

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Post by bfcmik » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:12 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Apparently we are supporting him to the tune of 50 grand per week to get ******.
You can tell it's not SD paying his wages from his own pocket.
What a load of b*ll*cks. £50k per week is what gets you a 2nd line standard of player - even the full £100k per week does not often get you a difference maker of a midfielder. What £50k a week gets you in the Premier League is a good player or a very good player who needs to reinvent their career following injuries (e.g. Steven Defour) or who needs to get back to proving themselves week, in week out(e.g. Danny Drinkwater).

All players are bought for their footballing abilities not for there degree of sainthood. He is just an ordinary bloke who was blessed with talents that get people to play him loads of dosh and therefore will do, to an extent, the same things any 20 odd year old would do.

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Post by TVC15 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:20 pm

Is “our Ashley” an injury doubt for this week.
Just noticed fantasy football site saying he has 75% chance of playing due to groin injury

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:26 pm

TVC15 wrote:Is “our Ashley” an injury doubt for this week.
Just noticed fantasy football site saying he has 75% chance of playing due to groin injury
Fit according to Dyche
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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Apparently we are supporting him to the tune of 50 grand per week to get ******.
You can tell it's not SD paying his wages from his own pocket.
Have you really posted that? I’d take a look at yourself if I were you.
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:55 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Wasn’t a panic but at all, might have completed on the final day but had been going on for over a week before that.
We needed a permanent player this summer for that position and I know we tried to get Phillips which would have been a great signing but we fell way short again - be lucky if Drinkwater even starts a game for us

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:We needed a permanent player this summer for that position and I know we tried to get Phillips which would have been a great signing but we fell way short again - be lucky if Drinkwater even starts a game for us
If it was Phillips, and it’s a good guess that it was, the chairman said that his club weren’t prepared to sell him which is not falling short. We weren’t the only Premier League club trying to sign him and we all got our answer this week when he signed a new five year contract at Leeds.
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