Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

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Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:58 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:02 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Pieters 5
Cork 6
Westwood 6
Mcneil 6
Lennon 5
Wood 4
Barnes 5

Vydra 8
Jay rod 7
Hendrick 10

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Funkydrummer » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:07 pm

A touch generous there VC !

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby fidelcastro » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:08 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:A touch generous there VC !


He always watches a different game! :)
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:10 pm

Pope 7 some smart saves
Lowton 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Pieters 4 very poor, certainly effects our forward play and McNeils style when Taylor is out
Cork 6 very average , a nothing game
Westwood 6 as above
Mcneil 5 looked tired, weak and bereft of ideas
Lennon 5 created zilch
Wood 4 poor game
Barnes 5 slightly better

Vydra 7 great assist
Jay rod 6
Hendrick 7 great finish

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:12 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:A touch generous there VC !


I'm giving them extra credit for the first 15-20 minutes plus extra credit because it really ****** Brighton fans off :D
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Granny WeatherWax » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:20 pm

Horrific performance from minute 25 to minute 90. Questionable tactics too. But we mugged em so I leave happyish.

Pope 8
Lowton 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Pieters 4
Cork 4
Westwood 6
Mcneil 4
Lennon 4
Wood 3
Barnes 4

Vydra 7
Jay rod 6
Hendrick 7
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:25 pm

Some seriously stupid marks on here already. Nowhere near our best but the 3s & 4s are a joke.
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:28 pm

Pope 8
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 5
Barnes 6
Wood 6

Hendrick 7
Rodriguez 5

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Funkydrummer » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:28 pm

All entitled to their opinion.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Granny WeatherWax » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Some seriously stupid marks on here already. Nowhere near our best but the 3s & 4s are a joke.


You forgot to add “in my opinion”

In my opinion we were absolutely miles off the pace.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby quoonbeatz » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:42 pm

Pope - 7 fine, goal was a good finish

Lowton - 5
Tarkowski - 5 completely left maupay for their goal
Mee - 6
Pieters - 5 not very good, doesn't give us enough gping forward

Cork - 6
Westwood - 5 doing a cork, after hitting the heights last season, he's been poor so far this
Lennon - 5 booking was poor refereeing
McNeil - 5

Wood - 4
Barnes - 4

Rodriguez - 4
Hendrick - 7 always wanted the ball and tried to make stuff happen; cracking strike to equalise.

First 25 mins we were really good but you have to score when you're on top. Brighton made the change and came back into it but didn't really get on top until they scored. From then we were poor but hung in there and our equaliser is a lovely goal, back to front, on the deck.

Brighton are junk but there's no easy away games for us at this level so it's another good point.
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby FCBurnley » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:49 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Mee 5
Tarks 5
Pieters 4
Lennon 3
Cork 4
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Wood 4
Barnes 4

J Rod 4
Hendrick 8
Vydra 7 even tho he wasn’t on long enough

Only gave 4’s and 3’s because CT said they are a joke. Hope he finds them funny. We were very poor overall and nicked a point with a brilliant goal

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby BOYSIE31 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:50 pm

Pope 6
Pieters 4
Lawton 4
Tarks 5 left his man for goal
Mee 6
Lennon 5
Westwood 3
Cork 3
Mc Neil 6
Wood 3
Barnes 3

Vydra 6
Hendrick 7
Jay 6

Promising first 20 mins then shocking
Brighton changed it and we did not know what to do.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby KlyBfc » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:55 pm

Having not seen the game or read a report yet. Did Brighton create a lot of chances? I ask as a few have given the defence 4s which I’m guessing means we were very lucky to get a point and were bombarded with chances.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:00 pm

Did not go
However if a team away from home concedes 0 or 1 goal surely the goalkeeper and back 4
should not receive less than 6 ( which is average) as their job Is to defend.
They kept the home side down to 1 goal.
Just my opinion of course
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby box_of_frogs » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:00 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:You forgot to add “in my opinion”.

No. You will follow the Chairman’s opinions or risk imprisonment.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Granny WeatherWax » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:06 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:Did not go
However if a team away from home concedes 0 or 1 goal surely the goalkeeper and back 4
should not receive less than 6 ( which is average) as their job Is to defend.
They kept the home side down to 1 goal.
Just my opinion of course


What if the defenders let the opponents have a million shots on target and they score none.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:22 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Mee 6
Tarks 6
Pieters 5

Lennon 5
Cork 5
Westwood 5
McNeil 5

Wood 4
Barnes 4

J Rod 5
Hendrick 8

As much as we were mugged at Wolves, we picked their pockets at the end.
Overall, they were the best of two average to poor sides on the day.

Very happy with the point though. ;)

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:40 pm

Pope 6
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Lennon 4
Westwood 4
Cork 4
McNeil 4
Barnes 5
Wood 5

Hendrick 7 (+1)

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Conroy92 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:43 pm

Pope- 5- kicking looked poor tonight, not much else to say.

Lowton- 6- neither looks as solid as Bardsley did last year defending or attacking. What happened to his first time crossing?
Tarks- 5 looses one for the goal, lost Maupay and didn't communicate with the other defenders despite the best view of the situation
Mee- 6- slightly more consistent but did not organise the defense well enough at times.
Pieters- 5- looks to be the weak link at the minute, similar to Lowton but we have Taylor to come back who is younger and improving.

Lennon- 6 worked hard but didn't get released enough in the right situation, not playing to his strengths.
Westwood -5- struggled to impose himself in the game, we created very little and stopped very little from being created. Wasteful in possession.
Cork-6 see Westwood but slightly better.
McNeil-5 created a few chances early on and then went missing, lacked awareness for the man crossing for the goal.

Barnes- 5 never in the game.
Wood- 5 never in the game, wasted the only real chance.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby PhiladelphiaChris » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:11 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 5
Barnes 6
Wood 5

Hendrick 7
Rodriguez 6

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Hibsclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:23 pm

Pope 8
Pieters 6
Lowton 7
Tarks 6
Mee 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
Lennon 5
McNeil 6
Wood 5
Barnes 5

Hendrick 7
Rodriguez 5
Vydra 6

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Some seriously stupid marks on here already. Nowhere near our best but the 3s & 4s are a joke.



If there's a match for trotting out the 4's for some of the players then that was it.

We were dreadful all over the park and it's easily the worst we have played this year.
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:46 pm

I'm glad that after giving my opinion, it's a similar opinion to the rest that viewed it....

Must be annoying telling everyone what to think but actually being majorly in the minority.

I'm sure anyone who actually watched that today will recognise it was way short if a premier league display, and that we were extremely fortunate to get a point.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:51 pm

MACCA wrote:I'm glad that after giving my opinion, it's a similar opinion to the rest that viewed it....

Must be annoying telling everyone what to think but actually being majorly in the minority.

I'm sure anyone who actually watched that today will recognise it was way short if a premier league display, and that we were extremely fortunate to get a point.


I’m not saying we weren’t fortunate to get a point but the overreaction yet again, as it was against Liverpool, is sadly turning the Player Ratings into a farce.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Nonayforever » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:02 pm

If 7 is good
6 is average
5 is below par.

Then no one who played is worth more than 5.

We were hanging on for a downward helter skelter ride.

One minute of quality play rescued a point.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby paulatky » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:14 pm

Tony does a great job with this site but must allow others to have an opinion.
After the 1st 20 minutes we were very poor today,but Brighton werent much better.
The only time we tried to play football we scored our equsliser.
Great Chinese tonight at Mr Hau’s in Eastbourne and a few beers in Spoons.
Will take a point as we mugged them as Wolves did us. Deserved 3 pts over the 2 games but got just 2. Thats football I suppose

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’m not saying we weren’t fortunate to get a point but the overreaction yet again, as it was against Liverpool, is sadly turning the Player Ratings into a farce.


Depends what you call an over reaction.

In my opinion I dont think there were many players who played "good" and there were many who were "average" or lower.

If I'd watched that on sky today as a neutral I'd have thought in no way was that a premier league side playing we were way, way short of even acceptable.

Now fast forward to the 17.30 game and see a supposedly, weaker poorer side put in the sort of effort and display that should be mandatory for a side as establishment as ours.

We can often question form, quality etc, but effort, application and basic football skills should be a given, sadly today they wasn't

Just hope SD recognises that, as we cannot afford to do that too many times this season, even more so in the next 2 games!

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Granny WeatherWax » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I’m not saying we weren’t fortunate to get a point but the overreaction yet again, as it was against Liverpool, is sadly turning the Player Ratings into a farce.


Over reaction? Nothing to over react about. We got a lucky point. Happy days. Just scoring it as I saw it, just like you.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby SalouClaret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:48 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Tarks 6
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Cork 5
Westwood 5
Mcneil 6
Lennon 5
Wood 5
Barnes 5

Vydra 7
Jay rod 6
Hendrick 8
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Spijed » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:08 pm

MACCA wrote:Now fast forward to the 17.30 game and see a supposedly, weaker poorer side put in the sort of effort and display that should be mandatory for a side as establishment as ours.


A completely freak result!

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby jrgbfc » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:19 pm

Spijed wrote:A completely freak result!


But if we beat City you'd no doubt say it was a well deserved, comprehensive victory :lol:

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Spijed » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:21 pm

jrgbfc wrote:But if we beat City you'd no doubt say it was a well deserved, comprehensive victory :lol:


To beat City you have to have a huge amount of luck!

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby taio » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:33 pm

Spijed wrote:A completely freak result!


Probably best to just give Norwich credit for a great performance and result.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby jrgbfc » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:35 pm

Spijed wrote:To beat City you have to have a huge amount of luck!


I know they were gifted the third goal but from what I saw Norwich played well, particularly in the first half.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby IanMcL » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:36 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Pieters 7
Lennon 5
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 6
Barnes 6
Wood 5

Hendrick 7
Rodriguez 5

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Bosscat » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:49 pm

SalouClaret wrote:Pope 7
Lowton 5
Tarks 6
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Cork 5
Westwood 5
Mcneil 6
Lennon 5
Wood 5
Barnes 5

Vydra 7
Jay rod 6
Hendrick 8


/\ What Salou said /\
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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Cajun » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:39 pm

From watching live on NBCSN over here:
Pope 7 - Very confident with Pope in goal, and like that he can clear with both feet, but his kicking was very wayward today.
Lowton 7 - Liked his efforts to get forward.
Tarks 6 - Seemed below his usual high standards
Mee 6 - As with Tarks
Pieters 5 - Looked unsure of himself
Cork 5 - Struggled to get involved, should have hit the target with the close range shot that Wood just failed to connect with in first half.
Westwood 6 - Busy as always but passes/crosses not of normal standard.
McNeil 5 - Couple of runs early on but really failed to cause much of a threat and only a halfhearted attempt to block the cross for their goal.
Lennon 5 - I'd prefer Hendrick to start if JBG is not fit. Aaron never seems to be fully in control of the ball at any time and crossing is hit or miss
Wood 5 - Off the pace.
Barnes 5 - Was he feeling his groin injury? Certainly not his usual self, even though their central defenders had good games.

Hendrick 8 - Made a difference and superbly struck goal.
JayRod 6 - Made a bit of a difference.
Vydra - Not long enough to mark but he seemed very enthusiastic and he's a slippery character. Lovely confident flick to set up Jeff for the leveller.

As someone else said, for me this was Wolves in reverse. I though the Wolves game was a terrific almost "classic" Burnley away performance, but the last-gasp penalty left me totally deflated. With this game, I thought that after the first 20 minutes we were disjointed and sluggish, as if we were still feeling the effects of the end to that last away game, and I could not see a goal coming - but the great move for the stoppage-time equalizer left me feeling like it was a win and positive again.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:40 pm

jrgbfc wrote:I know they were gifted the third goal but from what I saw Norwich played well, particularly in the first half.


Norwich were good no doubt, make no mistake though that's the worst Man City performance since Pep took charge. At one stage I was looking for Paul Dickov up front instead of Aguero !

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby boatshed bill » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:53 pm

Spijed wrote:A completely freak result!


Not at all.

In 8 games Burnley 2 wins Brighton 1 win, 5 draws.
We are only a tad better than Brighton.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:52 am

First 20 minutes we looked like world beaters, but didn't really hurt them. There on after we were very poor, miles off it intact.
However we nicked a 90th minute equaliser with a fantastic strike from our only shot on target. To see those self righteous , self important southern top hats in tears again over a Burnley side should mean all our players automatically get a 10. However back in the real world

Pope 8 MOM
Lowton 5
Tarkowski 8
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 6
Cork 6
McNeil 5
Barnes 6
Wood 5

Hendrick 8 game changer
Rodriguez 5

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby fungus_the_bogeyman » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:11 am

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Pieters 5
Tarkowski 5
Mee 6
McNeil 5
Lennon 5
Cork 5
Westwood 5
Wood 5
Barnes 5

Hendrick 8* - thought he gave us added impetus when he came on. The goal was absolutely superb. Created it for himself and it was fantastically struck! Pleased for him!
Rodriguez 6

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:37 am

Spijed wrote:A completely freak result!


Didnt say anything about the result, however effort , application and performance should be a given. After nearly all of th first team had 2 weeks off an no real game time, we should have been well up for it and on it, sadly we were miles off it.

Like I said, let's just hope next week these " one offs" for us, and "freak results" for them dont happen again.

Because our last few games weve looked nothing like a usual Burnley side.

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby SalisburyClaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:00 am

Pope 7
Lowton 5
Tarks 5
Mee 5
Pieters 6 his experience got us out of some difficult situations
Cork 5
Westwood 4 worst I’ve seen him
Mcneil 6
Lennon 4 awful again
Wood 4 averaging one shot on target every four and a half hours over his last 9 games
Barnes 5

Vydra 7
Jay rod 6
Hendrick 7*

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby TVC15 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:09 am

MACCA wrote: Because our last few games weve looked nothing like a usual Burnley side.


Or to put it more accurately and less dramatic we played poorly for 70 minutes of one game, should have beaten Wolves comfortably, did beat Southampton comfortably, got beaten by the champions of Europe after playing excellently for the first 30 minutes and got beaten (but played very well) against an Arsenal team with the best part of £200m of forwards in their team.

But other than that your spot on as usual !

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby MACCA » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:17 am

TVC15 wrote:Or to put it more accurately and less dramatic we played poorly for 70 minutes of one game, should have beaten Wolves comfortably, did beat Southampton comfortably, got beaten by the champions of Europe after playing excellently for the first 30 minutes and got beaten (but played very well) against an Arsenal team with the best part of £200m of forwards in their team.

But other than that your spot on as usual !


Here he is....
The guy who doesnt read/understand the post.

I'll write it again.

Last few games we've looked nothing like a usual Burnley side.

The reason I wrote "last few" and not "this season", is because I watched the games you mentioned and we looked very good v Arsenal and Wolves and deserved more from them, and looked very much like the Burnley side we know.
But if you think last few games have been on par with the first few then I accept your opinion, but sadly can't agree with it.

So to coin your phrase, but other than that you're spot on as usual...

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:42 am

Pope - 8*
Lowton - 6
Mee - 7
Tarkowski - 6
Pieters - 6
Lennon - 6
Westwood - 7
Cork - 6
McNeil - 6
Barnes - 6
Wood - 6

Hendrick - 7
Rodriguez - 5
Vydra - 7

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:45 am

Struggling to see why Lennon is being singled out. I really think McNeil was poor today, lacked intensity. The game just passed him by! For all his faults (and he hasn't really had a really strong game yet as A Burnley player) Lennon appears to put himself about and get stuck in.

Dont get me wrong I think McNeil has quality, hes just slow out of the blocks this year. Maybe we need Taylor back in?

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Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Postby Paul Waine » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:48 am

I didn't get to the Amex yesterday - and didn't watch on a stream. Rebecca Myers, ratings in the Sunday Times match report contrast a little from many posters on here.

Burnley: Pope 7, Lowton 6, Tarkowski 7, Mee 7, Pieters 7, Lennon 6 (Hendrick 58min, 8), Cork 7 (Vydra 77min, 6), Westwood 7, McNeil 6, Wood 6 (Rodriguez 65min, 6), Barnes 7


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