The two changes I would make for the next game.

I don’t know what our record is when Lennon starts but it can’t be good, can barely think of a winning game.

He offers very little on the ball and his style means it leaves the middle two overran in the middle.

Meanwhile McNeil hasn’t been at last years level yet and this is due to having a full back who is quite poor going forward (but to his credit solid defensively).

I would like to see Taylor back in who is leagues ahead of Pieters and Hendrick on the right of JBG ain’t fit. We had our best form last season with him there.

Maybe Taylor should get on the bench before you start throwing him in the first XI.

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Maybe Taylor should get on the bench before you start throwing him in the first XI.

Strange one really, is that purely due to Bardsley being able to cover right and left?

I think most on here agree Taylor was one of our best players last season.

I think that it is partly down to him missing a fair bit of pre season.

We will be seeing him soon, I'm sure of that.

Keep dreaming...

Pieters is an incredibly limited footballer. However he’s the absolute embodiment of a “Dyche type” player - honest, experienced, meat and two veg, old pro. Hence he will be consistently picked regardless of the alternatives.
Lennon is a classic example of the old and past it type of player we have unfortunately spent far too much on at the expense of investment in youth (and heaven forbid a scouting network that extends beyond the Midlands): Walters, Lennon, Crouch, Drinkwater....

Not limited to one assist a season though, so not that limited

Really don’t understand the bashing that Pieters gets on here, it is quite irrational.

Can't wait for the Hibs meltdown when Taylor gets back in the team

He’s ok but Taylor back in as soon as he’s fit as he’s simply a better player.

wickdkewlclaret wrote:Really don’t understand the bashing that Pieters gets on here, it is quite irrational.

It’s not irrational and this post wasn’t a bashing. Taylor and McNeil were outstanding together in the second half of last season, offering our main threat going forward. So far McNeil has been subdued to say the least. The only thing that has changed is errr, Pieters. He’s a solid, honest pro and fits in with our team (I actually think he’s a great signing) but Taylor is simply better than him.

What a whingy thread

RVclaret wrote:Taylor is simply better than him.

Sean clearly agrees. Why is he not even on the bench? When you are out of the team you need to knuckle down like Hendrick. If he can’t get on the bench does this suggest he his not trying hard enough to get back. The stats don’t back up that he’s a better player at all.

Unfortunately we will have these threads every week started by Charlie and his family....

To be honest I don't mind Pieters. I just prefer Taylor because Dwight seems to play better with him and we are missing the Dwight of last season.

I'd say the reason Bardsley is on the bench ahead of Taylor is that he is capable of covering both sides. As others have said Pieters is the perfect player for Dyche, experienced but limited footballer, does exactly as he's told, good pro etc. We aren't going to progress if we keep picking players like that over our younger players like Taylor who was great last season and got the potential to keep getting better.

I think Taylor will be starting shortly though presumed he’d picked a knock up as not on bench ? We really are crying out for a driving midfielder but DD gonna be 4-6 weeks I’d say . I think Taylor worked well with McNeil and I think JayRod would work better with those 2 rather than the odd Peters hit n hope cross . Lennon is hopeless in an overrun midfield and needs a Defour type to release him otherwise he’s just a lightweight

Whilst o can understand some would debate Taylor over Pieters (though taylor was way off the pace and having a positive contribution against Sunderland) its very amusing that Pieters is getting blame for Dwight finding it harde this year

He was always going to. Every team has studied him as he is our biggest creative threat. They are doubling up
quicker, getting tighter, limiting the areas he picks the ball up in, as you would expect theses sides to have done after how we and he played post Christmas.

We have been fine all season defensively.

Excellent against Southampton, Arsenal and Wolves.

Not bad against Liverpool and Brighton.

We have made a few individual errors such as Mee against Liverpool and Pieters against Wolves etc but there is absolutely no need to have threads every week suggesting changes....

Did we Lose yesterday??? Mmmmm....

SkiptonClaret wrote:Pieters is an incredibly limited footballer. However he’s the absolute embodiment of a “Dyche type” player - honest, experienced, meat and two veg, old pro. Hence he will be consistently picked regardless of the alternatives.
Lennon is a classic example of the old and past it type of player we have unfortunately spent far too much on at the expense of investment in youth (and heaven forbid a scouting network that extends beyond the Midlands): Walters, Lennon, Crouch, Drinkwater....

No surprise at who wrote this and less surprise about who liked it.

wickdkewlclaret wrote:Really don’t understand the bashing that Pieters gets on here, it is quite irrational.

Without Hart in the team and some are realising Hendrick isn't as bad as they thought , UTC posters are scratching around for a scapegoat. UTC posters like Taylor so Pieters is easy to dislike, I think that's how it works.

Hibsclaret wrote:We have made a few individual errors such as Mee against Liverpool and Pieters against Wolves etc but there is absolutely no need to have threads every week suggesting changes....

You mean like last season when you were championing Ward to play instead of Taylor every other day?

NL Claret wrote:Without Hart in the team and some are realising Hendrick isn't as bad as they thought , UTC posters are scratching around for a scapegoat. UTC posters like Taylor so Pieters is easy to dislike, I think that's how it works.

Not about making Pieters a scapegoat at all, more about thinking we should have our best left back on the pitch instead of twiddling his thumbs in the stand.

SalouClaret wrote:You mean like last season when you were championing Ward to play instead of Taylor every other day?

Not exactly.

After 5 games

18/19. Scored 3 conceded 10
19/20. Scored 6 conceded 7

I’d say it was nothing like last season. When you factor in we have played 2 of the big 6 rather than just a poor Man U.

We were defensively all over the place early last season and Taylor was the worst culprit

Hibsclaret wrote:Not exactly.

We were defensively all over the place early last season and Taylor was the worst culprit

...and yet your dislike for him continued throughout the full season and in to this one.

NL Claret wrote:Without Hart in the team and some are realising Hendrick isn't as bad as they thought , UTC posters are scratching around for a scapegoat. UTC posters like Taylor so Pieters is easy to dislike, I think that's how it works.

The amount you constantly whinge about “UTC posters” it’s a wonder you continue to post on here.

SalouClaret wrote:...and yet your dislike for him continued throughout the full season and in to this one.

Really....where’s your evidence? During our run from Jan onwards he had improved to be good enough and my ratings said so. Find the evidence to back up what you are saying...

I trust in our great manager who has seen fit to improve the defence again this season...

Hibsclaret wrote:Really....where’s your evidence? During our run from Jan onwards he had improved to be good enough and my ratings said so. Find the evidence to back up what you are saying...

I trust in our great manager who has seen fit to improve the defence again this season...

Not going to lie, I can't be arsed. I eagerly await Taylor getting back in the team and your breakdown that inevitably follows.

NL Claret wrote:Without Hart in the team and some are realising Hendrick isn't as bad as they thought , UTC posters are scratching around for a scapegoat. UTC posters like Taylor so Pieters is easy to dislike, I think that's how it works.

It's been years since we've had some proper bashing of the left back position on here/CM.
It's about time it returned to that position.

SalouClaret wrote:Not going to lie, I can't be arsed. I eagerly await Taylor getting back in the team and your breakdown that inevitably follows.

Sounds like you have an exciting life. Have you tried getting a girlfriend?

If Dyche brings Taylor back then that’s fine by me. He is a better player than this time last season, of that there is no doubt. Erik has done nothing wrong so far and is a better defender and tackler which is probably why he has come straight into the team.

Hibsclaret wrote:Sounds like you have an exciting life. Have you tried getting a girlfriend?

Seeing as though I'm a straight female, no.

Hibsclaret wrote:Sounds like you have an exciting life. Have you tried getting a girlfriend?

If Dyche brings Taylor back then that’s fine by me. He is a better player than this time last season, of that there is no doubt. Erik has done nothing wrong so far and is a better defender and tackler which is probably why he has come straight into the team.

I thought Taylor is/was injured so that's why Pieters was playing?

SalouClaret wrote:Seeing as though I'm a straight female, no.

Great. No point arguing with you then. I give up

Can't handle talking to a woman? Have you tried getting a girlfriend?

Hibsclaret wrote:Great. No point arguing with you then. I give up

Swizzlestick wrote:The amount you constantly whinge about “UTC posters” it’s a wonder you continue to post on here.

I like the occasional post every now and again just to get a nibble, thank you for obliging again Swizzley.

Used to read the message board regularly, hardly bother these days as there's rarely anything worth reading. I do like to laugh at the UTC posters who know more than Dyche though.

Taylor, Hendrick, Vydra in, for me.

Pieters, Lennon, Wood make way.

More like Peters and Lee !

Lennon has faded. Sad but true.

Pieters played well yesterday. He was solid where others were not. Also drove forward near the end, to put pressure on their fullback, with some success.

Taylor was good after settling into the role. To get into the team, Pieters has to fail and he has not.

Pieter’s was very effective yesterday - his experience showed many times and he got us out of some sticky situations

As for Lennon - it’s sad to say but it’s like playing with 10 men when he plays - he covers well enough but other than that his impact on games is negligible. Time for a change

Lennon had faded before he'd got here, was going to take a miracle for Dyche to rejuvenate Lennon.

Pieters was my mom he showed his experience and has been a great signing
Lennon is a sub now last 15 mins man
Although to fair he was moving into good positions but totally ignored by Lowton.

Lennon is truly terrible for us but would look way better in an attacking pacey energetic footballing side.

He burns his legs running backwards so offers nothing offensively and when he finds himself forward often cuts back and plays a simple pass (obviously under instruction).

Pieters has done well, dependable but Taylor is just a better player and was one of our better players last season.

I’d also like to see Hendrick come into midfield for Cork. We look a much better side when we pass the ball yet it’s rare.

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
McNeil Hendrick Westwood Rodriguez
Vydra
Barnes

We miss Taylor. Pieters offers little going forward and this is effecting McNeil. Their is little or zero link up play between Pieters and McNeil, the quicker Dyche brings back Taylor the better. We are not has creative without the Taylor, McNeil link up play.

Hendrick should start on the left. Lennons style does not suit us, he tries to play the Dyche way and does his best, but it does not suit his style

JBG is rarely fit and for me when fit he should come on off the bench to sub Hendrick. JBG has no pace and can only check back or play link up, so rarely effective at this level. To JBGs credit he has a good delivery

Don't think Porter's has done much wrong to be dropped however I suppose you could argue that the opposition we are facing at the weekend we should be attacking and looking to win despite their win against Man City and Taylor would offer a more attacking role. I would argue the defence looks more solid with Pieters in and is it worth the risk for a more attacking full back.

Hendrick gave something different when he came on as did Vydra and I think it's worth mabe looking at that closer but I highly doubt Dyche will take the risk starting them.
We play like we did in the first 25 minutes we will win at the weekend. We play like we did in the second half and their will be some unhappy chappies on this board afterwards.

Hibsclaret wrote:Not exactly.

After 5 games

18/19. Scored 3 conceded 10
19/20. Scored 6 conceded 7

I’d say it was nothing like last season. When you factor in we have played 2 of the big 6 rather than just a poor Man U.

We were defensively all over the place early last season and Taylor was the worst culprit

Think most people on here know you are a bit of a weirdo when it comes to Taylor, but when you are using the opening 5 games of last season to bitch you do realise it was Ward at left back not Taylor for both Watford & Fulham games when we let in 7 of those 10 ?

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:most people on here know you are a bit of a weirdo

Fixed it for you.

I was comparing this years defence to last saying that nothing needs changing in response to the OP and the usual snipers come in like you and Salou. I’ll leave it to Dyche to decide when he wants to change a defence that is working fine.

Oh and we should have conceded about 7 at Wolves last season which is the best comparison with our defence against Wolves this season.

People were already on Pieters’ back after we conceded at Arsenal in his second game... Ward has gone, Taylor is not even on the bench so why do we need to be suggesting change every week.

Don’t know how many times I have to say that Taylor has improved but at the minute he can’t get Pieters out which is a good thing. Unfortunately the usual clowns will see fit to keep bleating the same tune

Hibsclaret wrote:
Don’t know how many times I have to say that Taylor has improved but at the minute he can’t get Pieters out which is a good thing.

It's really not a good thing. Taylor is the far superior left back.

Hibsclaret wrote:Fixed it for you.

I was comparing this years defence to last saying that nothing needs changing in response to the OP and the usual snipers come in like you and Salou. I’ll leave it to Dyche to decide when he wants to change a defence that is working fine.

Oh and we should have conceded about 7 at Wolves last season which is the best comparison with our defence against Wolves this season.

People were already on Pieters’ back after we conceded at Arsenal in his second game... Ward has gone, Taylor is not even on the bench so why do we need to be suggesting change every week.

Don’t know how many times I have to say that Taylor has improved but at the minute he can’t get Pieters out which is a good thing. Unfortunately the usual clowns will see fit to keep bleating the same tune

Shouldn't you have used that thought process last season then when Dyche was picking Taylor and you were crying every game that Ward wasn't on your tv screen.

Hibsclaret wrote:Sean clearly agrees. Why is he not even on the bench? When you are out of the team you need to knuckle down like Hendrick. If he can’t get on the bench does this suggest he his not trying hard enough to get back.

Taylor wasn't on the bench on Saturday because Dyche is 'rotating' his defenders on the bench. He was there v Liverpool.