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Everton

Postby lakedistrictclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:36 pm

I hope they're as poor as this when we play them in three weeks time.

They are nowhere near threatening the top six

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Re: Everton

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:36 pm

Marco Silva, manager with a great reputation he hasn't earned
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Re: Everton

Postby KRBFC » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Keane is absolutely shite

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Re: Everton

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pm

Neverton

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Re: Everton

Postby Safron » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:46 pm

Sorry guys but we aren't exactly looking anywhere near good enough yet

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Re: Everton

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:48 pm

Safron wrote:Sorry guys but we aren't exactly looking anywhere near good enough yet


What’s that got to do with Everton....
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Re: Everton

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:Keane is absolutely shite


Just Keane or are the other 10 also shite?

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Re: Everton

Postby bfcmik » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:50 pm

Safron wrote:Sorry guys but we aren't exactly looking anywhere near good enough yet
Good enough for what? Good enough for the title? Good enough for a Champions League spot? Good enough for a top 7 position? Or good enough to have a chance of beating Everton? 4 very different levels of 'good enough' needed for each of those questions.

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Re: Everton

Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:55 pm

Imagine the reaction on here if we’d played like that after spending all that money.
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Re: Everton

Postby lakedistrictclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:58 pm

I think we have every chance of beating Everton next month.
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Re: Everton

Postby bfcmik » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:08 pm

Safron wrote:Sorry guys but we aren't exactly looking anywhere near good enough yet
You don't think we are anywhere near being good enough to beat Everton? In that case you'd better go bet everything you own on us being relegated. Everton are going to be one of the also-ran teams that we have to be competitive with this season if we are to survive in the Premier League.

We have a decent chance on any given week to beat anyone outside the top 6 but a chance to get beaten by any of them if we are a bit off our levels. Same goes for all the 13 other teams who compete for best of the rest year after year (with the odd exceptional year to prove the premise). The top 6 are going to get favourable results against the other 14 most of the time though every once in a while the lesser team will get a good result (Norwich v City, us v Liverpool (once), City (2 or 3 times), Chelsea (2 or 3 times), Spurs (3 or 4 times) and United (3 or 4 times), Huddersfield beating City last season)
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Re: Everton

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:11 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Just Keane or are the other 10 also shite?


He's gone for Keane on this occasion because he's ex Burnley and was rated on here.

If Everton had have won 3-1, it would have been all about Silva from him.
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Re: Everton

Postby lakedistrictclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:12 pm

bfcmik wrote:You don't think we are anywhere near being good enough to beat Everton? In that case you'd better go bet everything you own on us being relegated. Everton are going to be one of the also-ran teams that we have to be competitive with this season if we are to survive in the Premier League.

We have a decent chance on any given week to beat anyone outside the top 6 but a chance to get beaten by any of them if we are a bit off our levels. Same goes for all the 13 other teams who compete for best of the rest year after year (with the odd exceptional year to prove the premise). The top 6 are going to get favourable results against the other 14 most of the time though every once in a while the lesser team will get a good result (Norwich v City, us v Liverpool (once), City (2 or 3 times), Chelsea (2 or 3 times), Spurs (3 or 4 times) and United (3 or 4 times), Huddersfield beating City last season)


This is spot on. We may get a few points off the top six ( last season we got five ) but our season will be defined by our results against the other thirteen.

So far we've played three of them, winning at home and drawing both away games.

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:16 pm

I haven't watched them today but Everton have created bucket loads of chances in all the other games.

They will finish at least 7th and are way ahead of us at the minute.

We could give them a game though,but we would have to be at our best.

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Re: Everton

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:17 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:What’s that got to do with Everton....


I'm guessing he means we couldn't beat an egg at the minute, therefore its us we should be worried about.

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Re: Everton

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:18 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm guessing he means we couldn't beat an egg at the minute, therefore its us we should be worried about.


Really :o

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Re: Everton

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:22 pm

The young lad Tom Davies seems out of favour there. If it continues worth looking at this summer or in January? Hendrick likely to leave and Cork another year older, we could do a lot worse than this lad depending on us affording his wages.

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Re: Everton

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:25 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Really :o


Really.

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Re: Everton

Postby ClaretTony » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:27 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:I haven't watched them today but Everton have created bucket loads of chances in all the other games.

They will finish at least 7th and are way ahead of us at the minute.


Absolutely dreadful today though and that team, playing like that, won't even be able to see 7th let alone get there.

I'd expect them to be way ahead of us. They are a much bigger club with a much bigger budget and, like Wolves, believe they can break the top six. Maybe they can, but not based on today's form. Defensively they were absolutely shocking.
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Re: Everton

Postby IanMcL » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:31 pm

Poor defensively.
Keane gone soft!

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Re: Everton

Postby bfcjg » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:31 pm

All that money spent and they put in a worse performance then us.

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:37 pm

bfcjg wrote:All that money spent and they put in a worse performance then us.

I think it's safe to say B'mouth are a far better side than Brighton.

Callum Wilson is only behind Sterling in goal involvement over recent times.

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Re: Everton

Postby FactualFrank » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:40 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:I think it's safe to say B'mouth are a far better side than Brighton.

Callum Wilson is only behind Sterling in goal involvement over recent times.


Did you just compare Callum Wilson with Sterling?

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:46 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Did you just compare Callum Wilson with Sterling?

He's 2nd on a list behind Sterling for goal involvement. Goals and assists.

I don't know how you get comparing the two. Just showing how good Wilson is.

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:52 pm

26 - The most goal involvements by English players in the Premier League since the start of last season:

Raheem Sterling - 32 (22G, 10A)
CALLUM WILSON - 26 (17G, 9A)
Jamie Vardy - 26 (21G, 5A)
Harry Kane - 25 (20G, 5A)
Marcus Rashford - 20 (13G, 7A)

Established. https://t.co/5YKWxAQJbW

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Re: Everton

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:He's 2nd on a list behind Sterling for goal involvement. Goals and assists.

I don't know how you get comparing the two. Just showing how good Wilson is.


Not a patch on Ashley Barnes according to plenty on here.

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Re: Everton

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:15 pm

Classic UTC thread about Everton....we are now comparing Callum Wilson with all and sundry (nobody from Everton). How about sticking to the topic?

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Re: Everton

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:16 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:He's gone for Keane on this occasion because he's ex Burnley and was rated on here.

If Everton had have won 3-1, it would have been all about Silva from him.


Must be Keane's fault, although you'd expect such a highly rated manager to improve the players who're there, that's what Dyche does most of the time after all.

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Re: Everton

Postby Spijed » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Not a patch on Ashley Barnes according to plenty on here.


And Neither is Callum Wilson a patch on Harry Kane, yet according to those stats he's performing better.

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Re: Everton

Postby Safron » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm guessing he means we couldn't beat an egg at the minute, therefore its us we should be worried about.

Exactly frank :D
Why have my 2 other posts been deleted? No worse than any other posts,tinted specks come to mind :D :D

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:43 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Classic UTC thread about Everton....we are now comparing Callum Wilson with all and sundry (nobody from Everton). How about sticking to the topic?

Ok

If Everton won today they would of gone 2nd. They had a shocker apperently and go 11th. That's early season football for you.

Some on here think they're doomed.

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Re: Everton

Postby dougcollins » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:48 pm

Funny side Everton.

Spend loads every year yet they're always sh1t.

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Re: Everton

Postby Spijed » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:59 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Ok

If Everton won today they would of gone 2nd. They had a shocker apperently and go 11th. That's early season football for you.

Some on here think they're doomed.


And after yesterday's game the same about us!

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Re: Everton

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:17 pm

Spijed wrote:And after yesterday's game the same about us!

Yeah it was just made worse with how bad Brighton were for the first 20 minutes.

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Re: Everton

Postby Hipper » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:37 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:I think we have every chance of beating Everton next month.


I thought that for the fixture last year. Remember we were playing a lot better, had beaten Brighton and put in good performances home to Liverpool and at Spurs and Arsenal......

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Re: Everton

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:42 pm

dougcollins wrote:Funny side Everton.

Spend loads every year yet they're always sh1t.


Apparently they need lots more money for a rebuilding job..according to an Everton fan today

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Re: Everton

Postby bodge » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:45 pm

Silva doesn't appear too clever at coaching the defensive side of the game, the full backs always play really high so you can exploit the space behind and the centre backs are not in sync with their line so getting in behind them is not too difficult such as Wilson's goal.

Got some good players but they need to stiffen up without the ball to threaten the top 6.

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Re: Everton

Postby Top Claret » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:53 pm

Everton will win fuk all as usual

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Re: Everton

Postby Spijed » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:54 pm

Hipper wrote:I thought that for the fixture last year. Remember we were playing a lot better, had beaten Brighton and put in good performances home to Liverpool and at Spurs and Arsenal......


But we played Everton when we were mathematically safe, and yu know how that usually pans out at the end of the season! :)

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Re: Everton

Postby bfcmik » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:05 pm

Spijed wrote:But we played Everton when we were mathematically safe, and yu know how that usually pans out at the end of the season! :)
he is referring to the Boxing Day game - when we didn't look like getting anywhere near being mathematically safe ever!

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Re: Everton

Postby Rileybobs » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:19 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:He's 2nd on a list behind Sterling for goal involvement. Goals and assists.

I don't know how you get comparing the two. Just showing how good Wilson is.


2nd for goal involvement for an English player. Your first post was a little misleading.

In any case Wilson is obviously a good player.


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