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Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:58 am

Dont know if I'm more shocked at the stats, or the way we played with the players who've got these stats between them...
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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:21 pm

...or how meaningless or misleading stats can be!

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:28 pm

Agreed, if you'd have left out Sean Dyche and Burnley from the wording it sounds a classy outfit doesn't it.

That's with the likes of Ward, Vokes, Wells, Crouch and Walter's gone, which would have only pushed those figures considerably higher.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:34 pm

Spend a bit of time and break those figures down Macca.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:36 pm

Guess using the same criteria, you could pull the stats of the sides we were putting out 15 years ago and be equally shocked about them too.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:38 pm

I'm struggling with who apart from Hart has played Champions League.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Lennon?

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'm struggling with who apart from Hart has played Champions League.
Lennon

But the vast majority of those 56 appearances will be Hart.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:42 pm

Pieters as well?

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Down_Rover » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:47 pm

Staggering maybe but I would guess that two thirds of the international appearances started on the bench and a high number of the starting eleven would be Chris Wood for NZ and two players, Lennon and Pieters who are no longer internationals

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Spend a bit of time and break those figures down Macca.
Why?

I've wasted enough of my time reading them and posting them on here for discussion.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:51 pm

Down_Rover wrote:Staggering maybe but I would guess that two thirds of the international appearances started on the bench and a high number of the starting eleven would be Chris Wood for NZ and two players, Lennon and Pieters who are no longer internationals

Suppose we do have a habit of strengthening the bench rather than the starting 11 in recent windows

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:55 pm

I make it 2,716 PL appearances not 2,717. To whom shall I complain or seek clarification?
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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Tinribs » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:10 pm

Wish I’d never read that now I’m absolutely Staggered

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Leisure » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:15 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'm struggling with who apart from Hart has played Champions League.
Drinkwater

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:16 pm

Leisure wrote:Drinkwater
Wasnt in the 18 on Saturday...
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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:19 pm

Down_Rover wrote:Staggering maybe but I would guess that two thirds of the international appearances started on the bench and a high number of the starting eleven would be Chris Wood for NZ and two players, Lennon and Pieters who are no longer internationals
Not Pieters. Would think the highest would be Hart & Hendrick.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:45 pm

Vydra played international didn't he? Jay Rod, Tarks, McNeil (do they class under 18's?) Cork, Lennon, Pope, Wood, Hendrik, Hart, Brady, Gibbson, Bardsley, Barnes

Or is it easier to say all the squad have international appearances lol

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by MACCA » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:03 pm

Brady was in the squad, he will have a fair chunk of caps too I'd have thought

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:28 pm

Leisure wrote:Drinkwater
Less staggering if I did more of that.
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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Dyched » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:30 pm

It's hard to know whether those are based on actual apps vs in the squad for matches.

Hart got 1st choice at City in 2010 in which since City have played 16 times in the Europa until he left and 42 Champs League games. I cba seeing if he's in the squad for those mind. Spurs played 8 CL games whilst Lennon was there and 70 Uefa Cup/Europa games. Take our qualifiers from last season too 18 players x 6 games = 108. Some players wouldn't have been in the squad vs Brighton mind.

Harts Europa 16* + Lennons 70* Europa + last seasons qualifiers 108 = 194 (Give or take Heatons, Walters, etc)
Harts CL 42* + Lennons CL 8* = 50

*Based on them being fit and in the actual squad

Lennon was also on loan at Everton so presume they'd have played in the Europa at some point when he was there plus Pieters at Stoke??

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:52 pm

Hart had 40 CL appearances with Man City
Lennon had 10 with Spurs
Pieters had 3 with PSV
Bardsley had 3 with Man Utd

All according to Wikipedia.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Rowls » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:55 pm

Welcome to the post truth world folks.

Watch out because in the world of post truth anything can actually be true and not mean a thing.

Did you know?

The average number of legs per human being is actually slightly less than 2?

The UK has only elected 1 of its last 4 Prime Ministers yet the UN somehow still claims it is a “functioning democracy”

Nobody has ever ever died from cannabis

And even more shocking:

Most corn flakes are made in the USA

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Leisure » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:07 pm

Rowls wrote:Welcome to the post truth world folks.

Watch out because in the world of post truth anything can actually be true and not mean a thing.

Did you know?

The average number of legs per human being is actually slightly less than 2?

The UK has only elected 1 of its last 4 Prime Ministers yet the UN somehow still claims it is a “functioning democracy”

Nobody has ever ever died from cannabis

And even more shocking:

Most corn flakes are made in the USA
Guess it's a quiet day in the bar in Montpelier! :D

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Down_Rover » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Not Pieters. Would think the highest would be Hart & Hendrick.
I was just commenting that Pieters is an ex international in the starting XI and that most of our caps that started are NZ or retired

Do you think he may return?

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by duncandisorderly » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:24 pm

Rowls wrote:
Most corn flakes are made in the USA

Cornflakes were invented as an attempt to stop people masturbating.
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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:38 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Cornflakes were invented as an attempt to stop people masturbating.
They don’t do owt for me. I’ve never had a hand-shandy over a bowl of Cornflakes.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Bosscat » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:44 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Cornflakes were invented as an attempt to stop people masturbating.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-y ... sturbation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apparently having a curry or a mexican makes you more likely to shake one out than bland boring food....

There are definitely a few on here overdosing on the old spicy stuff ;) ... I now know why I love Curry :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by duncandisorderly » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:48 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:They don’t do owt for me. I’ve never had a hand-shandy over a bowl of Cornflakes.

I'm not sure the idea is to bat one out into the cornflakes, tufty, but it would likely enhance the flavour.

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:06 pm

MACCA wrote:Dont know if I'm more shocked at the stats, or the way we played with the players who've got these stats between them...
Not sure why anyone is staggered by the stats. Under Dyche we have continued to evolve with more and more international players allayed to our stays in the Prem.

As for the way we played with them, we have probably had one poor half all season. Did you catch Man City’s performance last week with a ~half billion pound squad (probably more). It is always possible to play poorly with a quality team....

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Re: Staggering stats from Saturday

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:00 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:I'm not sure the idea is to bat one out into the cornflakes, tufty, but it would likely enhance the flavour.
Is that what I’ve been doing wrong? I thought it was a tough w*ank!

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