Southampton vs Bournemouth

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Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:53 pm

Southampton 2-0 down at half time at home.

Bournemouth also had a goal ruled out through VAR

Things not looking good for them at the moment. :D

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:10 pm

Loving it. I live in north Hampshire, there are a lot of fans of the London clubs here + Reading, Saints and Portsmouth. Saints fans are the ones I find the worst (in terms of seeing themselves as a "big club" and deserving of success).
Not only that but I had a small bet on for the away win at 5/2 and it's already been paid out (Bet365 pay out on a win bet if your team goes 2 up).

Hope Cherries can hold on. Whoops- a pen given.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by mdd2 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:13 pm

Fancy the Saints to at least draw now after that penalty

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Shappie » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:14 pm

Was it a pen??

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:20 pm

How was that not a penalty to Bournemouth ?

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by HunterST_BFC » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:21 pm

Var - BOTH WRONG

SHamp player - was never going to get to that ball - simply caused his own collision. PEN GIVEN
BMouth player - Brought down shaping to shoot standing Leg taken out - PEN NOT GIVEN

What is the point?
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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Shappie » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:22 pm

Especially as the other one was given

It’s almost like it wasn’t enough to overturn the decision. I bet if the ref had given a penalty and it had been reviewed, the penalty would have stood

Almost like “umpires call” in cricket
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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by whalleyclaret » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:24 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:How was that not a penalty to Bournemouth ?
Because the VAR ref is Graham Scott and he’s constantly an idiot

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by HunterST_BFC » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:25 pm

Shappie wrote:Especially as the other one was given

It’s almost like it wasn’t enough to overturn the decision. I bet if the ref had given a penalty and it had been reviewed, the penalty would have stood

Almost like “umpires call” in cricket
Agree with you.

But surely that is not the point of Var(ce) / Var(se)
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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:27 pm

It's getting a bit tasty now.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:35 pm

Southampton are a technically good side but they can’t defend and don’t have a goal scorer.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Bobzuruncle » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:36 pm

So’ton are crap in the last third and B’th are crap until the last third- and both pen decisions were wrong - and che adams is rubbish

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:46 pm

Che Adams is rubbish. We dodged a bullet there.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:50 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Che Adams is rubbish. We dodged a bullet there.
We don't dodge bullets, we make reasoned, well informed decisions. :D
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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:54 pm

Well that was a **** up for saints :lol:

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:54 pm

What a cock up !!!!!

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by IanMcL » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:55 pm

A sorry Saints performance.

That Gunn is a very dodgy keeper. Not sure how he could be considered on the fringe of England squad.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Southampton are a technically good side but they can’t defend and don’t have a goal scorer.
They've got a couple of former goalscorers though :lol:

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Winstonswhite » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:55 pm

Cherries up to third. Not bad is it?!

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:00 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Che Adams is rubbish. We dodged a bullet there.
We should have stopped messing around and just paid £30m for him rather than going in with low-ball offers.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:03 pm

Great start to the season from Bournemouth

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:05 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Great start to the season from Bournemouth
Deja vu. Won’t be long until their 15 game losing streak.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by EarbyClaret » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:06 pm

Not really sure where the pre-season optimism around Southampton came from - I think the BBC had them ranked 12th.

Adams was a punt with probably a 40/60 chance of delivering and they still display the same defensive frailties as last year. So far they've got lucky at Brighton with Andone's stupid red card and edged passed a very limited Sheffield United. Expect them to be in and around the bottom places again.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by bodge » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:38 pm

Ingsy will not be pc as they are desperate to get Adams up and running.

Bournemouth and in particular Lerma were lax in their own half and they were let off the hook by the lack of a cutting edge. Saints seem to rely on Redmond doing the business in the final third. They played some great stuff in midfield but they are not good enough centrally in both boxes which will see them struggle.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:44 pm

Keeper is an issue for them. Doesn’t seem to inspire confidence - reminiscent of when Hart is in the nets for us.

Adams seems overawed by the Premier League.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:48 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:Not really sure where the pre-season optimism around Southampton came from - I think the BBC had them ranked 12th.

Adams was a punt with probably a 40/60 chance of delivering and they still display the same defensive frailties as last year. So far they've got lucky at Brighton with Andone's stupid red card and edged passed a very limited Sheffield United. Expect them to be in and around the bottom places again.
To be fair, Adams could still be a good player at PL level, but needs time.
I can see EH having patience with Solanki, he will get time to develop because EH would have to be absolutely rubbish to get the sack.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:32 am

For much of that second half after the pen I just thought Southampton would go on and at least draw the game given how poor Bournemouth are defensively.

Pens - not so sure on the one that Southampton got but Bournemouth's was a definite penalty for me. There's a reluctance to change pen decisions though by VAR as we saw at Wolves.

Southampton don't look that good though from what I've seen of them.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:48 am

Absolutely no idea how that was a pen for Southampton? He fell into the Bournemouth player? Not even a foul.

Like said above, what’s the point if it’s still getting things wrong? Please don’t say they’ll even out over the season, because it should now be 100% correct.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:54 am

How can penalty decisions be 100% correct? Just not possible. Also not possible for 'deliberate handball' or simulation to ever be 100% correct. Pretty basic really.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:58 am

So if VAR understands why the decision was originally given it is unlikely to overturn that decision. Once folk get into that mindset the better.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:03 am

Of course I should have been clearer. I mean able to reverse a decision with 100% certainty via VAR if they can see why it was given in the first place.

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Re: Southampton vs Bournemouth

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:05 am

It does still stand that those areas are the most likely to have arguments for and against.

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