RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

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RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:57 pm

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David Coote (Nottinghamshire) v Norwich City

How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:42 pm

A 21
B 21
C 23
D 23

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Bosscat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:44 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:A 21
B 21
C 23
D 23
A 21
B 21
C 23
D 23

Agreed

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Only watched on a dodgy stream but their CH should have gone and Ash defo had his shin kicked for a pen that VAR didn’t overturn. Coote was close enough to see it live and then VAR would have backed him.
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:49 pm

Should be given 0s for not identifying the obvious clear penalty (WITH VIDEO ASSISTANT!) and bottling a 2nd yellow!

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:50 pm

We thought we had a couple of good penalty shouts that were turned away but with no VAR intervention he must have got the decisions correct

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Shore claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:52 pm

All 3 on the BBC said it was a penalty

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by MACCA » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:52 pm

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21

Missed a blatant yellow on J Rod as we broke, and also a few var decisions he didnt even go too.

Wont be the worst we have all season, so happy overall
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:59 pm

Very good apart from the complete cop out (aided and abetted by VAR) for not awarding as clear a penalty as you will see all weekend

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Paulclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:00 pm

Shore claret wrote:All 3 on the BBC said it was a penalty
Phil Thompson on Sky said it was a blatant penalty
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Marney&Mee » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:32 pm

Looked like it was outside the box.

He made reffing look easy

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:35 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:Looked like it was outside the box.

He made reffing look easy
I’ve seen the replay and he kicks Ash’s right shin, which is in the box and grounded, although most of the rest of him is outside.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:39 pm

Fairly poor for me, missed lots of opportunities for playing advantage
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by MDWat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:54 pm

On the basis of what I’ve seen only, no replays, Barnes was a blatant penalty and their centre half should have been sent off (twice).

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:41 pm

Equally poor for both teams but that doesn’t make it right.
Barnes looked a clear penalty, the ref was actually pretending he couldn’t see Barnes on the floor holding his head.
Finally told the Norwich player to take the throw in from the right place, then just let him take it anyway.
Really poor.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:50 pm

Were there no VAR referrals or was it just the big screen didn’t say they were happening??

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by CaptJohn » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:35 pm

Not that good.

A. 18 Bottled giving the deserved 2nd yellow to their defender late on.
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D. 18 Easy game to control.
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:39 pm

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Allowing McNeil to walk off to the bench but then remembering the new rules for Barnes. Cracker.
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by fungus_the_bogeyman » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:53 pm

Don’t get the high scores. I thought he was poor. Missed as blatant a penalty as you’ll see and how Amadou didn’t get sent off I’ve no idea...

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:54 pm

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by simonclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:56 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Were there no VAR referrals or was it just the big screen didn’t say they were happening??
Can only assume VAR wasn't working

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:45 pm

He almost let Norwich get away with taking what was the most obvious of Burnley throws in front of the Bob Lord.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by bfcmik » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:54 pm

A. 19
B. 20
C. 22
D. 21

VAR is only active if a goal is scored, the referee gives a penalty or asks whether an offence warrants a red card. It isn't there to check on anything else.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:02 pm

He definitely bottled giving a second yellow for a clear yellow card offence, and I have to think that's because it was really late in the game and because it would have meant a sending off. That was poor from him, but ultimately immaterial. I'd also have to see the Barnes penalty shout again, but otherwise he did pretty well imo.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:13 pm

It said on comms it had gone to VAR and they stayed with his decision. It’s a “refs can’t be seen to be wrong” conspiracy. They overturn naff all.
The CH should have got a second yellow for the foul on Wood on the edge of the box and then again for the foul on JRod on the halfway line but very little cover about.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Beagleheart » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:43 pm

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B. 20
C. 17
D. 9

Utterly astonished that their no 24 stayed on until the end after two bootable offences in the second half and the incident where he blew his whistle to make Norwich take the throw in their own half then let them carry on after taking it in our half should never have happened. His assessor will take him to the cleaners for that.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by martin_p » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:09 am

If that penalty decision wasn’t a clear and obvious error then I don’t know what is.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:16 am

I actually thought he let the game flow and didn’t get too much wrong generally. But the decisions to not award a penalty to Barnes and to not show a second yellow card to Amadou were shocking and were the only big calls he had to make. Fortunately they didn’t affect the result.
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Rowls » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:34 am

Can we have a regular "Rate the VAR" thread please?

Intervention choice - 0/20
Decision Making - 0/20
Camera selection - 0/20
Speed of decision - 0/20
Editing / Visual effects - 0/20

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:39 am

Very much in the mould of Michael Oliver. Decent ref but gets the big decisions badly wrong. The foul on Barnes whether in the area or not, was a clear foul, right in front of him. Not sending off amadou, twice, was really poor. Goid job neither decision cost us today.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:46 am

quoonbeatz wrote:Very much in the mould of Michael Oliver. Decent ref but gets the big decisions badly wrong. The foul on Barnes whether in the area or not, was a clear foul, right in front of him. Not sending off amadou, twice, was really poor. Goid job neither decision cost us today.
I'd edit before Ashington arrives...

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Conroy92 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:11 pm

Felt he tried to stay out of the game. Missed an obvious pen and bottled it for a second booking. At 2-0 down with no hope at coming back, I genuinely think he took pity on them and didn't award that second yellow.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Bosscat » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:32 pm

Was it just me and being disappointed Mr Coote didn't have a shaved head......
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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:05 pm

Conroy92 wrote:Felt he tried to stay out of the game. Missed an obvious pen and bottled it for a second booking. At 2-0 down with no hope at coming back, I genuinely think he took pity on them and didn't award that second yellow.
The thing is, Amadou or whatever he's called clearly lost it and was lashing out a couple of times (like his first yellow) so it's not as if you have to give the player the benefit of the doubt for an innocent late challenge or anything

Player should have walked, no question

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:13 pm

Missed the mugging on Ash Barnes in the first half and the stonewall penalty for the trip on Ash near the end

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:39 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Were there no VAR referrals or was it just the big screen didn’t say they were happening??
I think the big screen is not bothering to tell us they are referring to VAR. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when marking because I assumed he'd got the Barnes decision right - he clearly hadn't.

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Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Norwich city

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:40 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:Very much in the mould of Michael Oliver. Decent ref but gets the big decisions badly wrong. The foul on Barnes whether in the area or not, was a clear foul, right in front of him. Not sending off amadou, twice, was really poor. Goid job neither decision cost us today.
Was definitely in the area.

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