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Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:33 pm

Can anyone tell me why Everton preferred him to Dyche? Or what he has ever achieved? Trophies? Style?
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:34 pm

Quite simply he is an inferior product to Dyche.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:35 pm

The name, that's it..
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:38 pm

Genuinely don’t understand why they get shut if big Sam.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by claretdj » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:39 pm

Portugese with nice hair is the positive on his cv...
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:39 pm

done nowt as player or manager, second or third tier at best. seems to be a lot of coaches around with little pedigree.
Brendan rogers baffled me, think his playing career was at its peak playing for a post office 3rd team in a Dublin sunday leage team.
Granted, he has done alright.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:41 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:The name, that's it..

Exactly. Would he have got the job as Mark Silver?

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:44 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:done nowt as player or manager, second or third tier at best. seems to be a lot of coaches around with little pedigree.
Brendan rogers baffled me, think his playing career was at its peak playing for a post office 3rd team in a Dublin sunday leage team.
Granted, he has done alright.
Rogers playing career was cut short before it really started by a genetic knee problem whilst at Reading.
He has had a decent managerial career, mind.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:49 pm

yes i know, I was alluding to the fact there are more than a few others who have got top jobs without a track record as either player or manager.
Rogers does appear to know his onions though.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:57 pm

Rodgers is a very good manager.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by tim_noone » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:46 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Rodgers is a very good manager.
And Roy....

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:02 am

Has darker hair.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:32 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:done nowt as player...second or third tier at best...
In my opinion that's no bad thing. A very high proportion of Managers are ex-players and as a generalisation, I've always felt that the 'second/third tier', journeyman players make the better Managers that naturally 'gifted' players from the 1st tier; I've always suspected that's because they've had to think/work to keep their playing jobs and can pass now pass on what they learnt, whereas the 'natural talents' don't know how they do it, they just can. I'd always choose a Shankley/Paisley over a Dalglish/Gerrard; a Wenger rather than Henry, or Ferguson over Robson/Keane; closer to home, I'll take SD every time over a return by Inchy or Chris Waddle
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by chekhov » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:20 am

tim_noone wrote:And Roy....
Rodgers?

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by jedi_master » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:58 am

We will get Silva sacked on the 5th.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Shore claret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:31 am

To never have won a game after going behind as Everton manager is fairly damming.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Stayingup » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:03 am

I've often wondered why clubs chase this guy. Has he been a success anywhere as a manager?

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by welsbyswife » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:06 am

He makes some really baffling team choices and substitutions. Calvert-Lewin scored and was one of their better players in a poor performance at Bournemouth but then he doesn't make the team or even get brought on as a sub yesterday in favour of strikers who have done absolutely nothing. Team selection policy seems completely the opposite to SD where you keep the shirt if you play well. The only players who seem to keep their shirts are the defenders who have been woeful, Keane included.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by tim_noone » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:13 am

chekhov wrote:Rodgers?
Woy!!

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Dyched » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:23 am

Doesn’t matter how you wanna play or what better technical players they have nowadays. If you don’t replace Lakukus 20/25 goals a season you ain’t going anywhere. I mean Calvert Lewin shite.

Im tired of hearing about these young players at these bigger clubs that have “potential”. That’s all well and good if you have Van Nistelrooy or Shearer in your squad. But when Man Utd play Rashford or Everton C-L you have another 15 clubs who have better strikers as of this season. Rashford might be better than Barnes in 2 years. But right now he certainly isn’t.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:27 am

Stayingup wrote:I've often wondered why clubs chase this guy. Has he been a success anywhere as a manager?
Won the second league in Portugal with the mighty Estoril then took them to 5th in the top division and qualified for Europe

Won the Portuguese equivalent of the FA Cup with Sporting

Won the Greek Super League whilst bettering any start to a season by any European club in the 21st Century

Had a decent record at Hull given the circumstances, had a great record at Watford up until the Everton approach and fall out where things then went sour.

Had a decent win rate last year but whether he'll fully succeed at Everton this season is doubtful but his track record up to this season as a manager is nevertheless impressive.

When Dyche finally gets a bigger club than Burnley with a bigger budget and more expectation we'll see how he fares and whether his unbelievable success at Burnley is just a one off

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:37 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Won the second league in Portugal with the mighty Estoril then took them to 5th in the top division and qualified for Europe

Won the Portuguese equivalent of the FA Cup with Sporting

Won the Greek Super League whilst bettering any start to a season by any European club in the 21st Century

Had a decent record at Hull given the circumstances, had a great record at Watford up until the Everton approach and fall out where things then went sour.

Had a decent win rate last year but whether he'll fully succeed at Everton this season is doubtful but his track record up to this season as a manager is nevertheless impressive.

When Dyche finally gets a bigger club than Burnley with a bigger budget and more expectation we'll see how he fares and whether his unbelievable success at Burnley is just a one off
Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:39 am

tim_noone wrote:And Roy....
Rode a very good horse.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:42 am

jrgbfc wrote:Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.
A lot of us do, but we also think Silva is nothing special in England and the fact Everton aren't really showing any real signs of progression sort of proves us right.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:43 am

Read this morning Koeman was sacked early on after defeats to Chelsea, United and Arsenal. They have this season lost to Villa, Bournemouth and Sheffield United.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:03 am

jrgbfc wrote:Lots of people don't seem to realise there is a whole world of football outside the Premiership.
There is. But his record in England is what’s relevant. And it’s average.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by kaptin1 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:06 pm

Don’t want Silva being sacked as don’t want the Toffees coming sniffing around for Dyche

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:18 pm

Everton is the only club I reckon would come in for Dyche. He shouldn’t turn them down to be fair

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Spijed » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:21 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:Everton is the only club I reckon would come in for Dyche. He shouldn’t turn them down to be fair
But he must know that he'll be sacked if he has a bad run, like 12 points from 19 matches.

Everton are on their 4th manager since David Moyes left.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by EarbyClaret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:21 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Don’t want Silva being sacked as don’t want the Toffees coming sniffing around for Dyche
This a good point. Allardyce, the ultimate pragmatist was sacked because of the attritional football, despite relatively satisfactory results. Silva's supposedly more expansive style has been an expensive failure. If they decide to make a change the club are likely, with some justification, to look at the most successful period in their recent history, under Moyes, and try and recreate that.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:22 pm

Everton will look abroad if they pot Silva.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:25 pm

If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:26 pm

Clearly Everton would be a big step up for a manager like Dyche. But I genuinely feel that as long as we’re in the Premier League he will find it very difficult to leave us due to his job security, competitive salary and the autonomy he is given.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:27 pm

Spijed wrote:But he must know that he'll be sacked if he has a bad run, like 12 points from 19 matches.

Everton are on their 4th manager since David Moyes left.
But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.
Liverpool’s too far from Sandbanks for our Eddie.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:30 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.
I’m beginning to suspect that Dyche may leave Football Management altogether, when he finally leaves Burnley.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Spijed » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:31 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:But I think if Dyche stays at Burnley, his career will stagnate. He’s got it easy at Burnley though. Feet firmly under the table at the moment.
Big Sam wasn't entirely popular due to his brand of football and they may feel the same about SD

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:04 pm

Shore claret wrote:To never have won a game after going behind as Everton manager is fairly damming.
They come from behind to beat Lincoln recently in the cup so it must mean Premier league.

It took Dyche quite a while to win from behind in the premier league.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Shore claret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:54 pm

[quote="jrgbfc"]If they wanted someone British I think Eddie Howe would be more appealing to them than Dyche.[/y
Howe and dyche are in the same boat , safe in their own se!f built kingdoms, I think Dyche is more ambitious than Eddie and as we all know he can't live out of the South coast.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:58 pm

I’m convinced Dyche is in the succession planning for the England job, along with Eddie Howe

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:57 pm

Any update on this?

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:15 pm

Sacked in the morning?

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:16 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Sacked in the morning?
He can't be far off. They should be EASILY top 10 - and I'd say more top 8 or 7 along with Wolves.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:17 pm

How anyone could want Allerdyce replacing with a charlatan like silva is beyond me.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:19 pm

Mark Silver and hed be managing carlisle.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by MACCA » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:21 pm

Think the Everton fans gave their opinion at the end.

Can't spend that amount of money and play like that.

The line up, tactics and substitutions were baffling.

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:57 pm

Spent more than liverpool and ended up with alex iwobi

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Re: Marco Silva

Post by bfcjg » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:59 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Mark Silver and hed be managing carlisle.
Mark Nickel and he'd be managing bstards.
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:01 pm

On today’s evidence obviously better than Dyche and they play better football oh hang on a minute!
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Re: Marco Silva

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:05 pm

Fraud.

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