Breaking the Big 6

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Breaking the Big 6

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:31 pm

With 4 of the "big" 6 struggling a little there must be a real chance 1 or maybe 2 teams can break into top 6 and maybe even top 4 this season.

Leicester look the obvious choice but could this be time for the Bournemouth fairytale to write its next chapter. Eddie looks to have assembled a brilliant team who play some breathtaking football but can they show enough consistency to keep it up for a full season.

I have a lot of time for Eddie and the foundations he laid with us and love to watch Bournemouth when Burnley arent playing so if its gonna be any team (apart from us) then Id love it to be them
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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:35 pm

I've backed Leicester to finish in the top 4 this season, thought it was worth it at 18/1. No reason why West Ham can't be pushing for the top 6 either. Their starting line up today was much better than Uniteds.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:40 pm

There definitely appears to be places up for grabs as UTD are not just treading water anymore, but seem to be going backwards, Chelsea don't look great and seem to be "in transition" Arsenal likewise and Everton, who a couple of seasons ago looked the most likely to break through haven't pushed on. Other teams maybe catching up, but we'll see.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by BFCmaj » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:40 pm

Everton, Watford, maybe Wolves. :D
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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:42 pm

I think Leicester will finish in the top 4. Said as much before the season started. Good squad and a good manager.

Bournemouth are a great side on their day but they are notorious for picking up points in runs of games and then going on similar but longer runs of poor form. Plus their ground isn’t the sort of place where the opposition will fear playing at. So I think it’s highly unlikely that they’ll finish in the top six although too half should be a realistic aim for them - as it should for us.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by EarbyClaret » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:11 pm

There are probably two places in the top six up for grabs and Leicester look best placed for an attempt on the top four.

I'd definitely agree we can realistically look a a possible top-half finish as the points are the points are going to be more evenly spread between 18/20 rather than the usual 14/20.

We are one of the better equipped teams to deliver consistent levels of performance and already look like we are capable of much better game management - than in previous seasons - against the poorer teams when they come to TM

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Stayingup » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:15 pm

No chance. The authorities will not allow it. But like Brexit
You saw our very legit penalty.not given yesterday and a very legit penalty for Villa not given today. Thats it.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:17 pm

Leicester wont finish top 4, nor top 6

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:19 pm

Leicester have some brilliant technical players and know how to pass a ball. They were always waiting for someone like Brendan Rodgers as he's doing pretty much exactly what he did at Swansea. A couple of posters suggested top 4 - why not? Liverpool and Man City will run the league again, but they are miles ahead. No reason why Leicester can't do even 3rd place. Who's to stop them?

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:06 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Leicester have some brilliant technical players and know how to pass a ball. They were always waiting for someone like Brendan Rodgers as he's doing pretty much exactly what he did at Swansea. A couple of posters suggested top 4 - why not? Liverpool and Man City will run the league again, but they are miles ahead. No reason why Leicester can't do even 3rd place. Who's to stop them?
Got to agree with Frank, Rodgers was a good appointment at a club who have succeeded in the League and they do have a good squad and financial backing. They could do it, and have the backing to maintain it too.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Dyched » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:18 pm

I expect Arsenal and Spurs to be in the top 6. Not sure about Chelsea and Man U definitely not. Chelsea are lumbered with what they have. But Man U is self inflicted. Terrible transfers by Ole. You can not try and compete for the CL places with “potential”. They might have potential but as of this season they no better than Ian Moore.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by houseboy » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:06 pm

jrgbfc wrote:I've backed Leicester to finish in the top 4 this season, thought it was worth it at 18/1. No reason why West Ham can't be pushing for the top 6 either. Their starting line up today was much better than Uniteds.
It'd be great for some 'smaller' clubs to break the monopoly but not West Ham. I'm sorry but I just can't stand that awful football club or their fans. They've won next to f*ck all in their history but much of the media and their fans seem to treat them like some massive club. There are some sleeping giants in this country (Wolves/Villa/Everton and yes even Leeds) but West 'Am ain't one of them, they're no sleeping giant because they have never even been alive.

Sorry folks - rant over. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by claret2018 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm

I think the established order of 'big clubs' is going to be disrupted in the next few years, due to a number of factors like increased PL money, long-standing managers leaving (Utd and Arsenal), and formerly lesser clubs working to a plan over a long period of time (Spurs and Liverpool recently, and Leicester and Bournmouth presently).

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:23 pm

If Bournemouth break into the Top6 I’ll stand naked in Burtons window for a week....

No reason why Leicester or even us can’t mind. We were very close 2 years ago and have improved.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:25 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Got to agree with Frank, Rodgers was a good appointment at a club who have succeeded in the League and they do have a good squad and financial backing. They could do it, and have the backing to maintain it too.
If Sean was to ever leave, he's the sort of man I'd want to take over. That's how much I rate him.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:25 pm

I think if you get to B’mouth without mentioning ‘our club’ then you have made a serious omission. Ignore points at the moment, just concentrate on performance, as in quality of football and game/result management.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Goobs » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:01 pm

I don't get the love in some people have with Eddie and Bournemouth to be honest. Yes he clearly has an eye for a decent player and his teams do like to attack, but they are so inconsistent and hardly ever look convincing defensively.

I think they will finish around mid table but I would be surprised and disappointed if they weren't below us come the end of the season.

I love the way Dyche is building the squad and club up slowly. Started with getting us defensively solid and we are getting better going forwards all the time. Yes sometimes when we are not fully at it we can resort to going a bit too direct and over defensive, but ultimately this tends to be what gets us the extra point(s) that we may otherwise miss out on that could make a massive difference in where we finish.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:07 pm

But who will be relegated ? I`ll go for Norwich, Saints and Sheff U

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Dyched » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:24 pm

Goobs wrote:I don't get the love in some people have with Eddie and Bournemouth to be honest. Yes he clearly has an eye for a decent player and his teams do like to attack, but they are so inconsistent and hardly ever look convincing defensively.

I think they will finish around mid table but I would be surprised and disappointed if they weren't below us come the end of the season.

I love the way Dyche is building the squad and club up slowly. Started with getting us defensively solid and we are getting better going forwards all the time. Yes sometimes when we are not fully at it we can resort to going a bit too direct and over defensive, but ultimately this tends to be what gets us the extra point(s) that we may otherwise miss out on that could make a massive difference in where we finish.
Of course they are inconsistent. Only Liverpool and Man City ain’t.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:30 pm

FCBurnley wrote:But who will be relegated ? I`ll go for Norwich, Saints and Sheff U
It will be one of the W's

Watford, Wolves, Willa or Worwich

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by aggi » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:31 pm

The interesting thing about Bournemouth is how they've gradually been introducing younger players into their first. Their team on Friday had an average age of 25 or so with the oldest being 28. We shall see how that pans out when they hit onto a tougher streak.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Goobs » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:34 pm

Dyched wrote:Of course they are inconsistent. Only Liverpool and Man City ain’t.
in terms of results yes. but I'd say we are pretty consistent but we just don't have the skill levels / technical ability of those clubs or the depth of squad (although ours is pretty good for a club our size IMO). We are fairly consistent in our approach and performance levels I would say. Bournemouth however can look like world beaters one week and a Sunday league side the next.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Tall Paul » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:36 pm

FCBurnley wrote:But who will be relegated ? I`ll go for Norwich, Saints and Sheff U
Norwich, Villa, Watford.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:46 pm

Norwich and Watford (maybe) I can see and although Sheff U have made a half decent start, newly promoted teams often do, but find sustaining it over a long hard winter an issue. Villa maybe the ones instead of Watford who might well have the experience and depth to turn a poor looking (very early) situation round al la Palace a couple of seasons ago.

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Re: Breaking the Big 6

Post by KateR » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:34 pm

don't see Watford being anywhere near relegation and believe they will finish in the top half.

Leicester, West Ham, Bournemouth, Everton will be candidates to finish in the top 6 but will still struggle for top 4 I think but hopefully it will be interesting to watch the top after the two front runners after having to watch the usual suspects for so long and not look at who will be 7th this year. Well I hope so.

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