Frank Lampard

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:21 am

FactualFrank wrote:You could land a Boeing 747 on that forehead. Looks like he's going bald.

So what?

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:47 am

Did a good job at Derby. Doing a good job at Chelsea. They play exciting attacking football. He’s English and there are very few Englishmen given the chance to manage top 6 clubs.

What’s not to like?

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:53 am

And he’s hardly wrong about Barnes, is he?

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:35 am

Swizzlestick wrote:And he’s hardly wrong about Barnes, is he?

Yes, yes he is.

I’ll be the first, he’s also a bit of a knob. IMO.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 am

agreenwood wrote:Did a good job at Derby. Doing a good job at Chelsea. They play exciting attacking football. He’s English and there are very few Englishmen given the chance to manage top 6 clubs.

What’s not to like?

But will the next manager who finishes 6th in the Championship after doing a good job be offered one of the top jobs in English football?

Not a chance.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 am

He was deflecting from his own player being booked for diving. All the top managers do it and he’s learning fast.

Tbh. I think the ginger genius may have been better not mentioning it yesterday, given the evidence of the push and the fact he was cautioned. It is possible he had not seen a replay of the push when commenting though....

Either way, I think Lampard was deflecting and ended up sounding like the game was a walk in the park for them, which it clearly wasn’t, and that Ashley Barnes was the anti christ. Good job he didn’t call him an anti footballer as we’d have a new chant for next week.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 am

Heathclaret wrote:Yes, yes he is.

I’ll be the first, he’s also a bit of a knob. IMO.

We can’t put Barnes up on a pedestal because of his shithousery then get all uppity when other managers point it out.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 am

Quicknick wrote:So what?

I created the thread back in September when he was being interviewed. His forehead looked huge, so decided to comment. That is all. You can do whatever you like with that information

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:15 pm

Spijed wrote:But will the next manager who finishes 6th in the Championship after doing a good job be offered one of the top jobs in English football?

Not a chance.

I’ve tried, but I’ve no idea what your point is.

Heathclaret · Post by **Heathclaret** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:27 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:We can’t put Barnes up on a pedestal because of his shithousery then get all uppity when other managers point it out.

Explain “ Shithousery “ don’t understand.

He was deflecting criticism from his player, means condoning diving.

A touch on the back does not warrant a swan dive in the penalty area.

Watching the rugby makes you realise what a bunch of fairies footballers are.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:38 pm

agreenwood wrote:I’ve tried, but I’ve no idea what your point is.

There are some very good English managers around, but for some reason will get overlooked for the top jobs. Our manager being one of them.

I'm sure there are plenty of other English managers who could do just as good a job, if not better than Frank Lampard, but will never be given the chance.

A real shame.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:17 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Problem is hes more concerned about trying to win free kicks than actually playing football.

Noticed this even more when Vydra came on - he just made himself a nuisance knowing he wouldn’t win an out and out header against their defenders.

It did make the defenders mess up a couple of times though or just head it anywhere as they had to actually think about what they were doing and what was around them as Vydra seemed to jump next to them and be ready for any sloppy ball falling.

I love Barnes but he is predictable in how he plays and against a better class of defender his “build up” game will quickly become nullified as we saw yesterday and against Liverpool.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:34 pm

Yep Barnesy struggles against players worth north of 40 million. This is what you get with Barnesy. An absolute steal for us and when he’s on form he is a world beater. He was very good for the first 6 games and has tailed off slightly...but he will be back no doubt going through another purple patch soon

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:45 am

Now 2 points behind man city, having lost the leagues best player and unable to sign any players, playing with a team of kids.

**** manager.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:51 am

New manager impact.

Let's see how he does next season

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:57 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Now 2 points behind man city, having lost the leagues best player and unable to sign any players, playing with a team of kids.

**** manager.

They do have a replacement for Hazard mind: Pulisic.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:09 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Now 2 points behind man city, having lost the leagues best player and unable to sign any players, playing with a team of kids.

**** manager.

Well they did spend £60m on replacing Hazard so not quite as desperate as suggested. And they're 4 points worse off than this point last season even though loads suggested that Sarri was a bad manager.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:11 pm

Lampard out

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:15 pm

aggi wrote:Well they did spend £60m on replacing Hazard so not quite as desperate as suggested. And they're 4 points worse off than this point last season even though loads suggested that Sarri was a bad manager.

Hazard left in july. Who have they signed since then?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:33 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Now 2 points behind man city, having lost the leagues best player and unable to sign any players, playing with a team of kids.

**** manager.

Think the transfer ban did them a favour. Without it all those youngsters would have probably been farmed out on loan again.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:46 pm

Hazard wasn't even the best player at Chelsea, let alone the best in the league.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:05 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Hazard wasn't even the best player at Chelsea, let alone the best in the league.

Who was better at Chelsea?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:06 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hazard left in july. Who have they signed since then?

Since then, you know full well they couldn't.
They did sign a lad prior to their ban though, you've probably seen the bloke play recently, maybe even score a some goals against us....

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:10 pm

taio wrote:Who was better at Chelsea?

Kante

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Kante

Great player. But not as good as Hazard although totally different type of player. Hazard won fans' player of the season and players' player of the season last season.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:15 pm

Hazard was clearly their best player but clearly had one hell of an ego. Remove a player like that and it can improve the whole dressing room.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Hazard was clearly their best player but clearly had one hell of an ego. Remove a player like that and it can improve the whole dressing room.

What is “one hell of an ego” based on? Certainly no evidence I’ve seen he was a disruption in the dressing room.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:34 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:What is “one hell of an ego” based on? Certainly no evidence I’ve seen he was a disruption in the dressing room.

Cool.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pm

Stop being odd on every single thread.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:38 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:Stop being odd on every single thread.

Ok.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:45 pm

Ego is a massive problem just look at players like Ronaldo and the negative effect he's had.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:49 pm

Here he is a year ago saying other players deserve the captaincy more than him.

Sounds like a real bad apple!!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/readchel ... a/%3famp=1

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hazard left in july. Who have they signed since then?

No one, I didn't say they did. But they did spend £60m on signing a replacement for Hazard in January who arrived in July.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:45 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Since then, you know full well they couldn't.
They did sign a lad prior to their ban though, you've probably seen the bloke play recently, maybe even score a some goals against us....

So he was signed when Hazard was there?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:14 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:So he was signed when Hazard was there?

You know full well the deal, you're just being an arse on here again

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:02 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:You know full well the deal, you're just being an arse on here again

Did Lampard sign him?

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:50 pm

The papers aren't getting carried away though:

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:08 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:28 pm
I ccouldn't care less whether he's English or whatever.
I don't think he has the nous to mould a team to a high Premiership standard.
We'll see.

Nailed it

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:54 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:08 am
Nailed it

Only took 18 months

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:14 pm

Chobulous wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:54 am
Only took 18 months

He had added time due to their embargo.

He did a very good job first season, with no money to spend.
Last summers spending hasn't worked out as well though and he's utterly failed to get the best out of one of the inform strikers from Germany last season (sticking him out wide won't help) and this wonder kid who's their most expensive signing ever.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:17 pm

It's been a tough period for him and felt like it was only a matter of time. But it's shame because I want young English managers to succeed providing it's not at our expense.

SouthLondonexile · Post by **SouthLondonexile** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:32 pm

A super player, decent individual. Not a lucky manager.
Utd gave Ferguson significantly more time to develop a team. He had however luck on his side - plus the class of 92. and something else to consider - CHARISMA
Lampard needs a mentor , I would suggest shadowing SD (who is so Charismatic.) for a season.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Uncle 'arrys available a true Cockenee legend

charlyt · Post by **charlyt** » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:58 pm

Maybe he jumped into the Chelski job before he had completed his apprenticeship with Derby.