Stoke

wembley94 · Post by **wembley94** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:24 pm

Stoke city 4 wins in 32 games.how long should a manger get

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:28 pm

1-3 down at home, but they have brought on Sam Vokes.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:31 pm

wembley94 wrote:.how long should a manger get

As long as the cattle are hungry.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:31 pm

He needs a Vokes hattrick!

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:38 pm

If he goes, there will be trouble.
If he stays, there will be double.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:41 pm

Thats it for me

I think there done

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:52 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Thats it for me

I think there done

We are only in September!

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:54 pm

Zero wins in 9

Down

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:57 pm

They signed 10 players in the window as well.

He can't have long left...

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:57 pm

Is Sam Vokes still happy with the move?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:59 pm

I'll be surprised if Jones survives till next weekend.
Maybe not till Monday.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:59 pm

Sam Vokes was on the bench yet again tonight

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:02 pm

Burnley lost 4 and drew 4 of the first 8 games in Division 3 in 1981-82 and ended the season as champions.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:44 pm

Crystal Palace lost their first 8 a couple of years ago and did OK..

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:55 pm

Is Ward injured? He's barely featured this season.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:09 pm

Quicknick wrote:Burnley lost 4 and drew 4 of the first 8 games in Division 3 in 1981-82 and ended the season as champions.

We didn't - we won 1, drew 1 and lost 6.

As for Stoke, it's 3 wins in 29 now for Nathan Jones and he won the first against Leeds. Since they've beaten Forest at home and Blackburn at Ewood.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:10 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Is Ward injured? He's barely featured this season.

Wardy has started two league games which is twice as many as Sam.

Whitgord · Post by **Whitgord** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:10 pm

BOT I think that will go way over most people’s heads

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:18 pm

Whitgord wrote:BOT I think that will go way over most people’s heads

Not mine.

Christmas is coming.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:22 pm

I heard Pulis talking the other week about how the Stoke chairman never meddles with the stuff that’s within the role of the manager. He gave the example of not undermining Mark Hughes to ask Pulis about Berahino before his transfer from West Brom to Stoke. Pulis said he couldn’t believe that his ex chairman didn’t ring him for info before the transfer but said he never undermines his current manager.

Based on this and the resounding success of Berahino the manager may get until Christmas....

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:28 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:I heard Pulis talking the other week about how the Stoke chairman never meddles with the stuff that’s within the role of the manager. He gave the example of not undermining Mark Hughes to ask Pulis about Berahino before his transfer from West Brom to Stoke. Pulis said he couldn’t believe that his ex chairman didn’t ring him for info before the transfer but said he never undermines his current manager.

Based on this and the resounding success of Berahino the manager may get until Christmas....

It's what you would call a good chairman. Barry Kilby once told me that he'd never interfered with the manager on decisions throughout his time as chairman and that's how it should be.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:30 pm

Definitely is a good chairman for sure. I’m not sure they want to be letting this bloke have much longer mind....it may be too late for them at this rate

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:33 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Crystal Palace lost their first 8 a couple of years ago and did OK..

That's true but they dumped De Boer sharpish,whether it's Nathan Jones's style of play,or the players downing tools something has to change,and they can't remodel their squad until January,so the only viable option to shake the dressing room up is sacking the gaffer.

Another Butland howler tonight,his career is rapidly going downhill.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:33 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Definitely is a good chairman for sure. I’m not sure they want to be letting this bloke have much longer mind....it may be too late for them at this rate

I'm surprised Jones is still there - I noticed my namesake wasn't looking to happy at the final whistle.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:14 am

ClaretTony wrote:We didn't - we won 1, drew 1 and lost 6.

As for Stoke, it's 3 wins in 29 now for Nathan Jones and he won the first against Leeds. Since they've beaten Forest at home and Blackburn at Ewood.

Of course. I posted from memory, so should have checked. Not far wrong, though, and I made a salient point. Stoke are certainly not finished.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:36 am

mkmel wrote:Sam Vokes was on the bench yet again tonight

Looks like we’ve had their pants down for the Vokes fee. Maybe payback for Leon Cory.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:06 am

5 points from safety with 37 games to play. Not sure it’s quite over yet.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:39 am

Vokes isn't having a good time, I'm sure he's missed three penalties since he signed too, having had a 100% record for us.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:02 am

Just had a nosey at the Stoke forum to see what they had to say about Vokes.

“If you cut him, he’d bleed gravy” was probably one of the nicer comments!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:13 am

A solid Premier league team under Pulis,since he left they have been gash,be careful what you you wish for fellow Clarets.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:22 am

Steve1956 wrote:A solid Premier league team under Pulis,since he left they have been gash,be careful what you you wish for fellow Clarets.

They had three consecutive 9th placed finishes in the Premier League after Pulis left, higher than he’d ever achieved.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:34 am

Swizzlestick wrote:They had three consecutive 9th placed finishes in the Premier League after Pulis left, higher than he’d ever achieved.

I've erased Hughes Stoke record from my memory,because Hughes is a Twatt.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:37 am

I thought they'd played well, and had some good looking players, knocked it around fine......
Until Butland.
It must be a real concern for the defence knowing he is behind them. I feel for Jones, I dont agree with his persistence in the diamond formation, but he seems a good bloke. The team showed tonight that they just need a bit of luck with a result and their fortunes could turn round. Sadly its Huddersfield next, and at this stage of the season it could be do or die.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:55 am

Quicknick wrote:Of course. I posted from memory, so should have checked. Not far wrong, though, and I made a salient point. Stoke are certainly not finished.

They aren't but it did take the removal of Bob Lord to turn things round that season

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:21 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:I thought they'd played well, and had some good looking players, knocked it around fine......
Until Butland.
It must be a real concern for the defence knowing he is behind them. I feel for Jones, I dont agree with his persistence in the diamond formation, but he seems a good bloke. The team showed tonight that they just need a bit of luck with a result and their fortunes could turn round. Sadly its Huddersfield next, and at this stage of the season it could be do or die.

Pretty much what I was going to post.

Butland is costing them massively

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:21 am

Wonder what has gone wrong for them? On the face of it Jones seemed a good appointment; good, young up and coming manager.

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