Charlie Taylor

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:26 pm

Straight back in when available?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:29 pm

Yeah. Great shout. Let’s get shut of our top assister and part of a defence that’s played phenomenally well.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:31 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Straight back in when available?

I like Charlie T but at the moment its Pieeater shirt m8

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:34 pm

Bosscat wrote:

I like Charlie T but at the moment its Pieeater shirt m8

Thought he looked a bit iffy yesterday and definitely at fault for at least one of the goals - easily the first one we conceded. I guess competition is good.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Thought he looked a bit iffy yesterday and definitely at fault for at least one of the goals - easily the first one we conceded. I guess competition is good.

There is no competition

Doubt he’ll ever play for us again

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:42 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Doubt he’ll ever play for us again

I see.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:58 pm

Might have been partly at fault for the first goal. But has been very solid in general and was outstanding last week.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:04 pm

Pieters earned the shirt with a good start, but apart from the assist, he looked a weak link down that side yesterday. I would probably give him another chance, but would have Taylor on the bench ready, just in case.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:15 pm

At fault for 4 of the 9 goals we've conceded. He looks a brilliant signing as a back up and like Bardsley have no worries about calling on him if needed but Id have Taylor in.

One thing I would say is Taylor still has his weaknesses at this level but has age on his side and was getting better all the time as last season progressed

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:21 pm

When / if is Taylor going to.be available

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:28 pm

It’s funny how the great man works. I mean he brings in players and they stay in if they continue to improve and are good enough for our improved team. He always talks about small improvement steps.

Taylor looks like he’s been upgraded even having himself improved. This tells me he still needs to improve as our team has got better. There’s only so far you can improve if you are not ultimately good enough.

Pieters was a cheap buy to improve our goal output so I suspect Dyche will be looking for a new left back within the next year or so if we are to keep progressing. It looks like he thinks Taylor is either worse or no better than Pieters and I agree.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:32 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Pieters was a cheap buy to improve our goal output

You write some rubbish on this subject but this is right up there with the best

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:You write some rubbish on this subject but this is right up there with the best

Lol. Coming from you...

So he hasn’t improved us going forward then?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:36 pm

FCBurnley wrote:When / if is Taylor going to.be available

He's fit and available now, it's just Dyche is preferring Pieters.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:37 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Lol. Coming from you...

So he hasn’t improved us going forward then?

Yes he has so far but thats not why we signed him. We signed him because we needed a second left sided defender.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:38 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yes he has so far but thats not why we signed him. We signed him because we needed a second left sided defender.

A better one yes

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:39 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yes he has so far but thats not why we signed him. We signed him because we needed a second left sided defender.

I wouldn't bother, the restraining order Charlie Taylor has taken out against Hibsclaret means he's unable to attend matches, as he's not allowed within a 3 mile radius.

Fu3king nutcase.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:42 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:A better one yes

I disagree but thats a matter of opinion (I cant remember anyone in the summer saying we needed a better left back than Taylor in fact pretty much everyone said we need some back up and competition)

That aside, the post I said was nonsense was you saying Dyche signed him to improve out goal output which is b*llox

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:42 pm

ksrclaret wrote:I wouldn't bother, the restraining order Charlie Taylor has taken out against Hibsclaret means he's unable to attend matches, as he's not allowed within a 3 mile radius.

Fu3king nutcase.

That you Charlie? How’s the splinters...

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:44 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I disagree but thats a matter of opinion (I cant remember anyone in the summer saying we needed a better left back in Tayloy in fact pretty much everyone said we need some back up and competition)

That aside, the post I said was nonsense was you saying Dyche signed him to improve out goal output which is b*llox

How would you know?

Dyche probably wanted more than 1 assist per season from his left back and he’s achieved it. Just because you and your cronies didn’t think we needed an upgrade the great man did....for whatever reason..

Funny how he took the shirt immediately. Very unlike a new signing for Dyche I would say

Gibson can’t get a sniff
Vydra cant get a sniff
Etc etc

There must be a reason that the ones in the team are better. The opposite could be true at left back

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:45 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:How would you know?

Dyche probably wanted more than 1 assist per season from his left back and he’s achieved it. Just because you and your cronies didn’t think we needed an upgrade the great man did....for whatever reason..

Why didnt he replace Ward then?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:48 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:That you Charlie? How’s the splinters...

Yes I am Charlie Taylor.

The splinters hurt a little, but I'd sooner have those in my arse than the tool you proposed putting there last time we met outside Gawthorpe.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:51 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Why didnt he replace Ward then?

Taylor replaced Ward.

You need to make small improvements in the team each season. We started off defensive a few years ago and Ward was a great defender. Over the last few seasons we are starting to work on different formations and to improve the goal output. Taylor was tried and I think Dyche thinks he isn’t to the standard required for the next level

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:05 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Taylor replaced Ward.

You need to make small improvements in the team each season. We started off defensive a few years ago and Ward was a great defender. Over the last few seasons we are starting to work on different formations and to improve the goal output. Taylor was tried and I think Dyche thinks he isn’t to the standard required for the next level

Different formations like 442?

And what does signing a backup defender due to Ward leaving, then getting his chance due to Taylor's injury make you come to the conclusion that Dyche doesn't rate Taylor?

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:09 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Different formations like 442?

And what does signing a backup defender due to Ward leaving, then getting his chance due to Taylor's injury make you come to the conclusion that Dyche doesn't rate Taylor?

I didn’t say he didn’t rate Taylor....you said I said that

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:10 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:I didn’t say he didn’t rate Taylor....you said I said that

Eh. You said you think that Dyche doesn't think Taylor is good enough for this level. That in my book is not rating him.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:11 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Eh. You said you think that Dyche doesn't think Taylor is good enough for this level. That in my book is not rating him.

The next level

You never know he may get another chance. I just doubt that he will. We shall see

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:12 pm

To say all the Stoke fans said Pieters was very limited going forward but a solid no frills defender, it's been a bit different so far.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:13 pm

Taylor was one of our best performers last season. He was improving with each game too and he seemed to have built up a great understanding with McNeil. The amount of times we would have both hugging the touchline running at the opposition really gave us a new dimension. Whereas this season it seems Pieters gets so far and McNeil tucks into central midfield. This is possibly to give us a little more protection if the opposition break. Pieters crossing does seem better than Taylors but I think he is given time to get his crosses in as teams are expecting us to use McNeil as our main outlet and covering his run meaning Pieters has that little bit more time. It is working at the moment but for me Taylor and McNeil perform better than Pieters and McNeil. On a sidenote in our back 4 I think Taylor is the better fit. It took a while but he really seemed to build up an understanding with Mee ehich Pieters doesnt have as yet

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:13 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:The next level

Which means not rating him.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:19 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Which means not rating him.

Really...the next level is the same as this level?

You can tell with how we performed at the Emirates and Wolves that we are better this year than last. We have not controlled games like that in previous seasons. It stands to reason that it is harder to get into our team when we have improved. As I say not many of the other positions have been improved upon because the current players have improved to the required standard.

We don’t know if Taylor has improved because he can’t get picked for whatever reason

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:22 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:There is no competition

Doubt he’ll ever play for us again

Wash your mouth out with soap.and water.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:24 pm

Stayingup wrote:Wash your mouth out with soap.and water.

That one was a joke....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:34 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:That one was a joke....

Need the punchline for that one.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:43 pm

Dyche will never ever change a winning /drawing team unless his hand is forced with injury etc. I remember it took Lowton ages to get the shirt back from Derek and it’s a similar deal with Pieters . He’s doing ok ,but some on here seem to think he’s bombing down the wing like a young George Best .Taylor will get his chance

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:54 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Dyche will never ever change a winning /drawing team unless his hand is forced with injury etc. I remember it took Lowton ages to get the shirt back from Derek and it’s a similar deal with Pieters . He’s doing ok ,but some on here seem to think he’s bombing down the wing like a young George Best .Taylor will get his chance

I’m liking the analogy. Not as good as my Maldini one mind....I mean at least Maldini was a left back...work in progress I would suggest

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 am

FactualFrank wrote:Straight back in when available?

Think he should be back in!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:37 am

Hope Hibsclaret is OK.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:32 pm

I'd go with:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:35 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'd go with:

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

I’d drop Lowton for whoever the U23 right back is and I’d bring in Benson for Cork.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:37 pm

The penny finally dropped at half time today.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:The penny finally dropped at half time today.

Which let's be fair is sooner than it has been, so SD gets credit for that. I was very much expecting an injury before it happened.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:55 pm

It's absolutely criminal that Taylor has been getting overlooked in favour of Pieters.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:02 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:It's absolutely criminal that Taylor has been getting overlooked in favour of Pieters.

Post of the day,well said.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:03 pm

It’s almost like Taylor is the new signing and Pieters is the established fullback who has been here for over two years and was one of our best players last season.

I don’t get it. The second Pieters went down injured against Everton, that should’ve been it.