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The Hundred - Cricket

Post by karatekid » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:48 pm

New cricket competition next summer that will see some of the worlds top players playing 100 ball cricket. To be shown live on the BBC. The team selection process seems a little complex though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49716478

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:51 pm

A gimmick. 100 balls as opposed to 20/20 which 120 balls. Don't really see the reasoning behind this new competition.

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:58 pm

The Manchester franchise seem a bit hindered with only Lancashire being a catchment area, the only team to only have a single one.

Leeds have the massive County in Yorkshire and Durham.

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:59 pm

More fecking slogging! :(
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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:59 pm

I suspect this was dreamt up by somebody who was being paid to dream up things- as opposed to popping up naturally from problems in the current formats. It's just not cricket

The 100 balls can be bowled in blocks of five or 10 by bowlers, who have the option of switching ends halfway through a 10-ball spell.
The maximum number of balls a bowler can deliver is 20, with each fielding team allowed a 150-second tactical timeout.

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Foulthrow » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:36 pm

A no from me. I support Lancashire not some mutant Manchester team.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:38 pm

Absolute nonsense. Completely unnecessary.
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:42 pm

“And will the Manchester team, who play at Old Trafford where there is an end named after James Anderson, opt for the legendary England fast bowler or Jos Buttler?”

I thought that Manchester team had already announced Buttler was playing for them?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:58 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:“And will the Manchester team, who play at Old Trafford where there is an end named after James Anderson, opt for the legendary England fast bowler or Jos Buttler?”

I thought that Manchester team had already announced Buttler was playing for them?
Jimmy hasn't played in the short form for a while.

I think they are using England stars to sell tickets but not play.

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Post by Leisure » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:07 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
The 100 balls can be bowled in blocks of five or 10 by bowlers, who have the option of switching ends halfway through a 10-ball spell..
Sorry but that's absolute nonsense!

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Post by dandeclaret » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:09 pm

Ridiculous idea....... support Lancashire not Manchester. Not from Manchester.

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Post by jdrobbo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:32 pm

I’ll watch it BUT I’m not convinced it’s a good idea and I’m hugely disappointed by the following... see the coaches...


MANCHESTER ORIGINALS - Simon Katich
BIRMINGHAM PHOENIX - Andrew McDonald
LONDON SPIRIT - Shane Warne
WESTERN FIRE - Gary Kirsten
TRENT ROCKETS - Stephen Fleming (I think)
OVAL INVINCIBLES - Tom Moody
NORTHERN SUPERCHARGERS - Darren Lehmann
SOUTHERN BRAVE - Mahela Jayawardene


Yet I refer you to the following article....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegr ... trict/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Clarets4me » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:42 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Absolute nonsense. Completely unnecessary.
Absolutely agree, only in England could you win the World Cup in one format, and the season after degrade that format's premier domestic competition, the Royal London Cup, to that of a " development " tournament .. it's a joke ..

If people don't want to go to 20/20 cricket, why will they want to watch this ?

If the Test grounds/Counties want to raise more money, then offer to host Pakistan's home tests until their domestic security situation improves ... imagine a five test series with India at Lords, Old Trafford, the Oval, Edgbaston and Headingley ... add in two warm up tests for each against Ireland , Afghanistan or Bangladesh and a mini 20/20 Tournament for all 5 adding in England .... :D

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:55 pm

Seems the ECB are doing exactly what they chastised Kevin Pieterson for doing when he wanted to go the IPL. Calling him greedy and only interested in making money

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:59 pm

jdrobbo wrote:I’ll watch it BUT I’m not convinced it’s a good idea and I’m hugely disappointed by the following... see the coaches...


MANCHESTER ORIGINALS - Simon Katich
BIRMINGHAM PHOENIX - Andrew McDonald
LONDON SPIRIT - Shane Warne
WESTERN FIRE - Gary Kirsten
TRENT ROCKETS - Stephen Fleming (I think)
OVAL INVINCIBLES - Tom Moody
NORTHERN SUPERCHARGERS - Darren Lehmann
SOUTHERN BRAVE - Mahela Jayawardene


Yet I refer you to the following article....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegr ... trict/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“Each franchise may only be permitted to employ one foreign coach for the tournament, which begins next summer, ensuring that the bulk of jobs go to coaches based in England. There are expected to be three or four coaches per team.”

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by jdrobbo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:01 pm

Hmmmmmmm

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:02 pm

Don’t want any of that foreign muck eh.

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Post by Foulthrow » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:03 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Absolutely agree, only in England could you win the World Cup in one format, and the season after degrade that format's premier domestic competition, the Royal London Cup, to that of a " development " tournament .. it's a joke ..

If people don't want to go to 20/20 cricket, why will they want to watch this ?

If the Test grounds/Counties want to raise more money, then offer to host Pakistan's home tests until their domestic security situation improves ... imagine a five test series with India at Lords, Old Trafford, the Oval, Edgbaston and Headingley ... add in two warm up tests for each against Ireland , Afghanistan or Bangladesh and a mini 20/20 Tournament for all 5 adding in England .... :D
Thing is - folk are going to T20. Lancs had some unreal numbers this year in terms of attendance and this was mirrored across the country.

And, as you rightly point out, England win a 50 over World Cup for the first time but all of those lads, and those on the fringes, will only play 50 over cricket if they play internationally. Crazy.

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Post by DCWat » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:06 pm

Sounds like a proper; high fives, foam fists and whoop whoops all around, job to me.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:10 pm

I’ve been baffled by this ever since it was announced last year. We are attempting to follow the likes of the IPL & Big Bash but for the life of me I can’t understand why they didn’t stick to the current t20 format.

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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:24 pm

It's not traditional cricket fans that this is being aimed at. The ECB are clearly hoping to attract people who wouldn't normally go to cricket. Without the backing of the hardcore fans think it will be a struggle to fill the stadiums.

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:37 pm

Lancashire on their own, just as it should be. 8-)

Cricket on the BBC though, yes please.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:53 pm

jrgbfc wrote:It's not traditional cricket fans that this is being aimed at. The ECB are clearly hoping to attract people who wouldn't normally go to cricket. Without the backing of the hardcore fans think it will be a struggle to fill the stadiums.
Who are they hoping to attract that isn't already going to t20?

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Post by TVC15 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:10 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Who are they hoping to attract that isn't already going to t20?
The ones with about 32 minutes less time on their hands
It’s a real niche market
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Post by jrgbfc » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:15 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Who are they hoping to attract that isn't already going to t20?
You'd have to ask the ECB that!

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by Stproc » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:34 pm

Couldn’t care less about this as I’ve no affinity with Manchester. England’s problems lie in batting for longer periods at the wicket and the ECB answer is even more slogging.

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Post by timshorts » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:05 pm

It's supposed to be aimed at "a different market than the existing cricket supporter" who will get excited by watching the world's best cricketers playing each other.

I'm clearly not the market they are after. If there was a new tournament for sloggit, I'd have gone for extra sides in a 32 team tournament with a schedule similar to US football. The extra teams would have been made by splitting some counties so that you could maintain existing rivalries but add, say, Liverpool v Manchester and Leeds v Bradford. West ham is an awful ground for football but would suit this.

I don't understand why people would want to go and watch artificial teams with a load of imports that don't relate to the area they represent. It's probably good for the betting companies and couch potatoes. Like creating a league load of mk dons.

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Post by Clarets4me » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:20 am

timshorts wrote:It's supposed to be aimed at "a different market than the existing cricket supporter" who will get excited by watching the world's best cricketers playing each other.

I'm clearly not the market they are after. If there was a new tournament for sloggit, I'd have gone for extra sides in a 32 team tournament with a schedule similar to US football. The extra teams would have been made by splitting some counties so that you could maintain existing rivalries but add, say, Liverpool v Manchester and Leeds v Bradford. West ham is an awful ground for football but would suit this.

I don't understand why people would want to go and watch artificial teams with a load of imports that don't relate to the area they represent. It's probably good for the betting companies and couch potatoes. Like creating a league load of mk dons.
I understand that the India v Pakistan Group game at this year's World Cup had 400,000 applications for around 20,000 Tickets .... hence my suggestion for Pakistan hosting Home tests here, rather than before a couple of hundred fans in Sharja ....

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:25 am

Clarets4me wrote:I understand that the India v Pakistan Group game at this year's World Cup had 400,000 applications for around 20,000 Tickets .... hence my suggestion for Pakistan hosting Home tests here, rather than before a couple of hundred fans in Sharja ....
You don’t see many more away fans when they play test matches in England.

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Post by Local cricketer » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:17 pm

Bit surprised that The Originals have picked Mahmood over Livingstone.

Cant imagine that will have gone down well with the Cumbrian KP

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Post by Foulthrow » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:02 pm

Local cricketer wrote:Bit surprised that The Originals have picked Mahmood over Livingstone.

Cant imagine that will have gone down well with the Cumbrian KP
Two questions...

1, Who are 'The Originals'?

2, Who is the 'Cumbrian KP?'?

TIA

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:43 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Two questions...

1, Who are 'The Originals'?

2, Who is the 'Cumbrian KP?'?

TIA
I'm guessing the Originals are the Manchester franchise and the Cumbrian KP is Liam Livingstone.
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Post by CBT » Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:57 am

ClaretTony wrote:I’ve been baffled by this ever since it was announced last year. We are attempting to follow the likes of the IPL & Big Bash but for the life of me I can’t understand why they didn’t stick to the current t20 format.
IPL Big Bash and Caribbean PL only have 8 teams in each
I think the thinking is there's not enough quality players or only having 8 teams can ensure lineups with more shall we say 'worldclass' or star names playing

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Re: The Hundred - Cricket

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:57 am

Cricket for people who know nothing about cricket.

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Post by RogerBest » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:55 am

I have thought cricket has been particularly badly mismanaged ever since home tests were no longer on free-to-air television. I think the point of the ECB should be to encourage the participation and enjoyment of spectating cricket in England not to make money for the ECB.

Much as the Hundred format seems a bit gimmicky. At least it is going to be broadcast live on free TV and many of the best players in the world will be there.

I am pleased it is happening. It is better to have something rather than the complete absence of live cricket we have now.

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Post by Bangers&Mash » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:14 am

Don't think the reaching out is to existing fans, and probably not even to fans turning up in the ground (although I'll wait to see how jam packed the teams are with superstars before I judge). The key to this tournament is it's on free to air tv and that's why something strange had to be dreamt up - any T20 would have gone straight to Sky. Let's just hope it's on an actual channel and not hidden away on a labyrinth on the red button and just maybe it could attract some new fans.

I'd still prefer a test match kind of thing any day. Would it ever be possible to create a franchise test style competitions? A month long, 8 team, straight knock out competition?

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