Diane Abbott stands in for Corbyn on PMQ

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:31 am

Well that should be good for a laugh.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:20 am

I don't hold much hope but it would be funny if she mopped the floor with Johnson.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:39 am

She will be putting questions to Raab. She can't get asking a few questions wrong surely.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:52 am

taio wrote:She will be putting questions to Raab. She can't get asking a few questions wrong surely.

I should have done a google search.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:55 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I should have done a google search.

Yes. Or been able to put two and two together. That Johnson will be at his party conference delivering his keynote speech. And the leader of the opposition doesn't ask the questions at PMQs if the PM has been replaced for that session.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:23 am

taio wrote:Yes. Or been able to put two and two together. That Johnson will be at his party conference delivering his keynote speech. And the leader of the opposition doesn't ask the questions at PMQs if the PM has been replaced for that session.

See, i just tried to have a little joke with you at the start of the day but instead you wanted to be a ****.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:29 am

Irony

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:52 am

Big risk this

She gets loads of abuse that is completely bang out of order, but she's also very poor when the pressure is on.

The lack of suitable replacements and her 100% loyalty to Corbyn is the only reason she's where she is.

Still, she'd have to go some to be as bad as the current govt but still.....

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am

Never trust someone who can't keep their eyes open when answering a question.
Good job she's there to ask the questions today.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Irony

Haha my thoughts exactly

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 am

Her crime is that of being unskilled in front of the media...nothing more...unless being a passionate advocate for the rights of ordinary people and a champion of the disadvantaged has now become a crime.
Nothing will ever show how the feeble minded proles can have their views controlled by the Murdoch's and their like more than Abbott and Corbyn.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:05 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:See, i just tried to have a little joke with you at the start of the day but instead you wanted to be a ****.

Haha. That's a better joke - I think most people reading that will think that's rich coming from you. Perhaps you're feeling over sensitive this morning, whereas I thought you would appreciate being educated on the point and knowing the facts.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:09 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't hold much hope but it would be funny if she mopped the floor with Johnson.

Good morning, IT. I wonder if you are spending too much time on Washington politics to have known that if the PM is unavailable for PMQs it goes ahead with a deputy - and the opposition leader also passes his/her role to a front bench deputy.

Good luck, Diane Abbott.

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:09 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:See, i just tried to have a little joke with you at the start of the day but instead you wanted to be a ****.

Classic,made my day.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:27 am

Her crime is that of being unskilled in front of the media...nothing more...unless being a passionate advocate for the rights of ordinary people and a champion of the disadvantaged has now become a crime.

Also the "crime" of hypocrisy- sending her son to fee-paying school having previously (and since) advocated that private education is wrong for other people
Also the "crime" of making sweeping derogatory statements about whole races (considered to be racism by many) - "white people like playing divide and rule"

Her innumeracy is a big problem for her too. Lots of people dont have strong numeracy skills but hers are particularly poor for somebody who needs to present/respond to facts and figure.

She's done some good things too of course, including voting against the Iraq war and you can't really hold it against her that she was caught (against TfL rules) drinking Mojito on the tube a while back.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:47 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Big risk this

She gets loads of abuse that is completely bang out of order, but she's also very poor when the pressure is on.

The lack of suitable replacements and her 100% loyalty to Corbyn is the only reason she's where she is.

Still, she'd have to go some to be as bad as the current govt but still.....

She’s absolutely dreadful. Even if I was a Labour voter I wouldn’t want her anywhere near the party leadership.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:51 am

I am confident she will be able to ask some questions.

She is a very intelligent lady, who would easily out us all in our place, if necessary.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:16 am

fatboy47 wrote:Her crime is that of being unskilled in front of the media...nothing more...unless being a passionate advocate for the rights of ordinary people and a champion of the disadvantaged has now become a crime.
Nothing will ever show how the feeble minded proles can have their views controlled by the Murdoch's and their like more than Abbott and Corbyn.

To be fair in modern politics you have to be able to play the media. That’s the game. It shouldn’t be but it is.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:28 am

I would prefer someone like Yvette Cooper to stand in.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:29 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't hold much hope but it would be funny if she mopped the floor with Johnson.

Are you joking. Well no not you.
She couldnt mop the floor with mickey mouse. Shes thick havent you spotted it?

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:31 am

IanMcL wrote:I am confident she will be able to ask some questions.

She is a very intelligent lady, who would easily out us all in our place, if necessary.

Chrimes. Are you on something? Shes numb. Ask anyone in the FO thats met her.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:40 am

Should be fun haven't watched a good comedy in ages.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:42 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:I would prefer someone like Yvette Cooper to stand in.

I would prefer Tommy Cooper sadly he's indisposed.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:43 am

Steve1956 wrote:I would prefer Tommy Cooper sadly he's indisposed.

Yvette Cooper has the Balls

Ed Balls

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:44 am

Bosscat wrote:Yvette Cooper has the Balls Ed Balls

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:51 am

Shes no Priti Patel in the looks and oratory department
How a child of East African immigrants became a Tory is another issue but shes nailed on to be PM when Boris finally gets stabbed in the back
Labour need to ditch Corbyn and Abbott now and get a leader who can win an election
Corbyn will get slaughtered at a General Election
I have and always will vote Labour as a teacher why would I vote any other way?
We have a decent MP who deserves my support despite the fool trashing Labour votes with his inane policies

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:12 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Shes no Priti Patel in the looks and oratory department
How a child of East African immigrants became a Tory is another issue but shes nailed on to be PM when Boris finally gets stabbed in the back
Labour need to ditch Corbyn and Abbott now and get a leader who can win an election
Corbyn will get slaughtered at a General Election
I have and always will vote Labour as a teacher why would I vote any other way?
We have a decent MP who deserves my support despite the fool trashing Labour votes with his inane policies

I understand the East African Asians, deported from Uganda by Idi Amin were a particularly entrepreneurial lot, many of them went on to establish successful businesses ... I can see how she could be a Tory.

Is there any limit Corbyn can reach with his " inane policies " that would lead you to reconsider your voting intention ?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:25 am

Stayingup wrote: She couldnt mop the floor with mickey mouse. Shes thick haven't you spotted it?

Well, I don't rate her as a political performer, that's for sure, but one thing that she is not, is "thick".
They don't give away degrees at Cambridge.
She had potential , and at she's well past her sell-by date now.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:30 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Well, I don't rate her as a political performer, that's for sure, but one thing that she is not, is "thick".
They don't give away degrees at Cambridge.
She had potential , and at she's well past her sell-by date now.

Jeremy had while her use by date was still valid

on that motorcycle holiday round europe....

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:33 am

nil_desperandum wrote:They don't give away degrees at Cambridge.

Whilst that's certainly true in Diane Abbott's case it does happen. Prince Edward got a degree from there and it's well known that he isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:41 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't hold much hope but it would be funny if she mopped the floor with Johnson.

I don't think she could mop the floor if she had a full range of Vileda's finest infront of her.....

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:48 am

Spijed wrote:Whilst that's certainly true in Diane Abbott's case it does happen. Prince Edward got a degree from there and it's well known that he isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

Or the straightest...

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:56 pm

Oh come on she is useless - nothing more

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:01 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Oh come on she is useless - nothing more

Are you one of her constituents? If not then you're perhaps not best qualified to judge.
As I've said, I don't rate her at her current level, but she seems to have been successful on many other levels.
Considering her background she's done remarkably well, I would think.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:09 pm

As the first black person to represent their party at PMQ's she should be proud of her achievements, and it's incredible that's the case in 2019. Good luck to her.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:25 pm

Dianne Abbott was born to Jamaican parents in Paddington, London, in 1953. Her father was a welder and her mother was a nurse.[2] She has stated in interviews that both of her parents left school at the age of 14.[3] She attended Harrow County School for Girls (a grammar school), and then Newnham College, Cambridge, where she read history.[4] At Cambridge, she was tutored by historian Simon Schama.[5]

After university she became an administration trainee (a fast track route to senior positions in HM Civil Service)[6] at the Home Office (1976 to 1978), and then a Race Relations Officer at the National Council for Civil Liberties (1978 to 1980).

Like I said...she could put us back in our box, if she chose.

Welk done to her today. A fine achievement, which few can actually match.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:43 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Are you one of her constituents? If not then you're perhaps not best qualified to judge.
As I've said, I don't rate her at her current level, but she seems to have been successful on many other levels.
Considering her background she's done remarkably well, I would think.

Dont need to be just hearing her on tv is enough - clueless

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:50 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Shes no Priti Patel in the looks and oratory department
How a child of East African immigrants became a Tory is another issue but shes nailed on to be PM when Boris finally gets stabbed in the back
Labour need to ditch Corbyn and Abbott now and get a leader who can win an election
Corbyn will get slaughtered at a General Election
I have and always will vote Labour as a teacher why would I vote any other way?
We have a decent MP who deserves my support despite the fool trashing Labour votes with his inane policies

What inane policies? You sound as though you’ve just taken that from a tabloid, or from a conversation with an angry Blairite. No substance.

Patel got sacked from cabinet for exceeding her brief by a crazy margin, and has been made a fool of publicly over her extreme right wing views. No contest.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:59 pm

AndrewJB wrote:What inane policies? You sound as though you’ve just taken that from a tabloid, or from a conversation with an angry Blairite. No substance.

Patel got sacked from cabinet for exceeding her brief by a crazy margin, and has been made a fool of publicly over her extreme right wing views. No contest.

Oh, come on! Corbyn wants to raise the minimum wage, scrap universal credit, scrap OFSTED and tax the richest people in the country accordingly... I mean, what a monster!

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:08 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Oh, come on! Corbyn wants to raise the minimum wage, scrap universal credit, scrap OFSTED and tax the richest people in the country accordingly... I mean, what a monster!

You and Diane share the same numeracy skills, fidel.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:19 pm

CardyTheClaret wrote:You and Diane share the same numeracy skills, fidel.

Really? Where have my numeracy skills been incorrect?

If it's some sort of veiled moral point you're trying to make, then I should remind everyone reading this, that you stated on another thread, that you believe the minimum wage in this country is TOO HIGH!

The Tories must love you!

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:23 pm

I would imagine it was inferring that Labour's economic policy doesn't stack up

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:23 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Really? Where have my numeracy skills been incorrect?

If it's some sort of veiled moral point you're trying to make, then I should remind everyone reading this, that you stated on another thread, that you believe the minimum wage in this country is TOO HIGH!

The Tories must love you!

Everyone loves me.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:26 pm

CardyTheClaret wrote:Everyone loves me.

I don't.

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:36 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I don't.

I'll take that as a compliment.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:27 pm

I'm just curious as to what fidel does or did for a living ?

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:32 pm

Did she actually forget to ask a question here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyHk8Gxyzm4

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:34 pm

Diane and Michael Portillo went to Harrow County Girl and Boys school around the same time as both born in 1953 although Michael would have been a year ahead (May 53 and Di Sept 53).
He was ot one time to the right of the Tory party and Diane is to the left of the labour party and both went to Cambridge.
Always thought they were good on This Week

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:36 pm

Clarets4me wrote:I'm just curious as to what fidel does or did for a living ?

Why?

But for your information, yes I have worked for greedy unscrupulous employers.

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:05 pm

Clarets4me wrote:I'm just curious as to what fidel does or did for a living ?

I’m guessing here, but I’d say he’s one of those that can’t settle anywhere.