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Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:43 pm

According to SD .Sounds somewhat of an oxymoron but thats what's being quoted.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:44 pm

Suppose it could be hairline, but his hairs always short... ;)
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Goobs » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:54 pm

Is Drinkwater fit to play yet or are we going to be looking at moving Jeff inside and playing Lennon / JBG on the right?
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:56 pm

Drinkwater not ready according to SD. We could just go with Rodriguez as per the second half at Villa.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:58 pm

Drinkwater won't play for Burnley again. It's October. He goes back in January.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Stalbansclaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:05 pm

Very bad news. We will presumably move Jeff inside and bring JBG back in (rather than Lennon I should think) ?

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:06 pm

Goobs wrote:Is Drinkwater fit to play yet or are we going to be looking at moving Jeff inside and playing Lennon / JBG on the right?
Be interesting to see what we do Saturday ...

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Andreshotboots » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:08 pm

Brady has looked full of energy and determination in his brief sub apperances and could be an option. Went into a thumping challenge at villa late on..He looks to me like he's got a point to prove..

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:09 pm

Let's hope our failure to properly strengthen our midfield doesn't come back to bite us. We're now only an injury to Westwood or Hendrick away from being in massive trouble.
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:14 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's hope our failure to properly strengthen our midfield doesn't come back to bite us. We're now only an injury to Westwood or Hendrick away from being in massive trouble.
If that happens we move Tarks into Midfield then take the dust sheets off Gibson
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Down_Rover » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:16 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:If that happens we move Tarks into Midfield then take the dust sheets off Gibson
Or an opportunity for an up and coming youngster to grab his chance like McNeil

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:17 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's hope our failure to properly strengthen our midfield doesn't come back to bite us. We're now only an injury to Westwood or Hendrick away from being in massive trouble.
Or an alternative view is Cork and Drinkwater are both fit after the break meaning we have 4 fully fit central midfielders!

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:17 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:Very bad news. We will presumably move Jeff inside and bring JBG back in (rather than Lennon I should think) ?
One would assume so, but is JBG back ready?

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Minor shoulder fracture to me says 3 months out minimum. Having broken my shoulder and had a hairline fracture on seperate occasions. The recovery for both is similar and usually 6 -12 months but reckoning in that he is a professional sportsman and has all the ice machines and technology at his disposal it should be a lot less than the man in the street. After a month he may even be able to play as long as there is a proper recovery plan in place but doubt that is the way that SD works

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:22 pm

Makes Drinkwaters actions in Manchester look even more stupid. If he'd have got his head down and got fit he'd be knocking on the door for a game now.
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:26 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Makes Drinkwaters actions in Manchester look even more stupid. If he'd have got his head down and got fit he'd be knocking on the door for a game now.
still time for that

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:35 pm

Who had post #9 in the "first to complain about the transfer window" sweepstake?
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:52 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Or an alternative view is Cork and Drinkwater are both fit after the break meaning we have 4 fully fit central midfielders!

Yeah but if Cork, Westwood, Hendrick & Drinkwater are all injured after that then we will be in serious trouble. In fact if Wood, Barnes and jay get injured were are ******. What a disaster our transfer windows are :D
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:53 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Who had post #9 in the "first to complain about the transfer window" sweepstake?

Paddy power had him 4/5 fav

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Firthy » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:01 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Who had post #9 in the "first to complain about the transfer window" sweepstake?
He does have a point :?
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:22 pm

Firthy wrote:He does have a point :?
Careful Firthy, questioning anything the club does or having a different opinion isn't allowed on here.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by claretnproud » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:42 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's hope our failure to properly strengthen our midfield doesn't come back to bite us. We're now only an injury to Westwood or Hendrick away from being in massive trouble.
....
We cant just buy 15 and 20 million quid players willy nilly as cover for all positions. We are always going to have a few dodgy situations and even the biggest clubs have these problems. If right player is not available then we need to stick with what we have.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Marney&Mee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:47 pm

Gives someone else an opportunity to shine. Mcneil ? Hendrick. Is Benson good enough. Looked sharp at Fleetwood (not that you can read too much into that). Get Tarks in there !

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by dsr » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:51 pm

Firthy wrote:He does have a point :?
Well, in a sense. If we have two players for every position, that's only a 22 man squad. Three men to spare. (One extra because McNeil doesn't count but one less because we have three goalkeepers.) So we should have worked out which positions are going to suffer the most injuries, and made sure we had extra men to cover them. Simples.

How do we know which positions will have most injuries? Ask me another.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by dsr » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:53 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Yeah but if Cork, Westwood, Hendrick & Drinkwater are all injured after that then we will be in serious trouble. In fact if Wood, Barnes and jay get injured were are ******. What a disaster our transfer windows are :D
You forgot about the goalkeepers. What if Pope, Hart, and BPF are all injured? Is Legzdins the answer, or should we have signed another international? ;)
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:13 pm

SD has handled a short-handed squad from day1 of his arrival and when required he has come up with a solution. He’s said touch and go for Saturday but probably after the break. No sweat. Whether it’s Hendrick, McNeil or Brady in the middle we do have options.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Firthy » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:20 pm

dsr wrote:Well, in a sense. If we have two players for every position, that's only a 22 man squad. Three men to spare. (One extra because McNeil doesn't count but one less because we have three goalkeepers.) So we should have worked out which positions are going to suffer the most injuries, and made sure we had extra men to cover them. Simples.

How do we know which positions will have most injuries? Ask me another.
I think there's very few on here who would say we had a really good transfer window and that we were adequately covered in midfield. Drinkwater was always going to be a gamble and taking a chance with him on loan was okay as a possible back up but we really did need a quality replacement for Defour. I'm not having a go at the club because none of us know who or how hard we tried to sign a midfielder but just agreeing with another poster that not signing a decent midfielder could affect us.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:26 pm

Hendrick should be in there in his natural position.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by claretspice » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:39 pm

First and foremost, if Cork is out for a while, it is a great opportunity for Hendrick. He's a central midfielder foremost, and he's got all the attributes to succeed in that role at this level. The last time he really got a run in his preferred position was three seasons ago, and you'd like to think he's matured and improved since then.

On the infrequent occasions he and Westwood have been paired together they've generally complimented each other really well, and I'm pretty comfortable with those two in tandem against Everton. I'd have thought we'd start with JBG, Brady or Lennon coming on out on the right (but there's nothing preventing that set up morphing into the 4-3-3 we saw on Saturday, just with the right sided forward being a bit more mobile and tricky than the 3 we fielded in the second half on Saturday).

As for Drinkwater, it's frustrating his injury was the product of off-field stupidity, but injuries happen and you do sometimes get two at the same time in the same position. Linking this back to the transfer window seems a hell of a stretch to me. We ended it with 4 senior central midfielders, generally competing for 2 positions. Few teams have more depth than that.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:48 pm

Will definitely be missed. Will be interesting trying out some of the things mentioned on here. However, missing a virtual ever present in our recent period of excellent progression over the last few seasons is not good news at all. Get well soon Jack....

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Longside4evr » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:56 pm

With this injury to Cork isn't a major worry to be honest its probably if you had to pick a player to rest and bring in another player Cork being that would not have shocked me so on that note not detrimental
We have adequate cover why do some fans jump to the fact of our lack ability to sign players.
If we need one we get one that suits us and works with our infrastructure
Let's get behind the lads who ever comes in and experience the reality UTC

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:09 pm

Suspect it will be McNeil/Hendrick/Westwood and Brady in midfield, meaning we stay 442. If we go behind them Jay Rod coming on to play alongside Barnes and Wood, with Brady making way. Just cant see SD starting with 443

We have had worse issues to resolve

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:50 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Minor shoulder fracture to me says 3 months out minimum. Having broken my shoulder and had a hairline fracture on seperate occasions. The recovery for both is similar and usually 6 -12 months but reckoning in that he is a professional sportsman and has all the ice machines and technology at his disposal it should be a lot less than the man in the street. After a month he may even be able to play as long as there is a proper recovery plan in place but doubt that is the way that SD works
Correct. Dyche reckons, on the BFC website, Cork will be back after the next international break at worst. He's not often that forthright so I think we can be confident he'll only be out for the Everton game, if that.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Down_Rover » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:56 pm

I think Jack remains our most consistent and hardest working midfielder. He will be missed but it is an opportunity for Jeff who appears to be improving and maturing.

There is no need to panic.

It makes me smile that there is any concern re Jack. The nay sayers said his legs had gone. Not in my opinion.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:12 pm

He's 30, you'd hope they haven't.

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Post by ian » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:13 pm

Good news for Vydra who might cement a place on the bench for a couple of weeks.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:15 pm

It’s fine Jeff is a better overall player anyway and can cement a place in CM

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:39 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Correct. Dyche reckons, on the BFC website, Cork will be back after the next international break at worst. He's not often that forthright so I think we can be confident he'll only be out for the Everton game, if that.
The official line on JBG after the Wolves game was "he's got a slight knock", and he ended up missing 5 weeks. Dyche tends to play down injuries no matter what.
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:57 pm

He does but he's never given a definite-ish return date before.

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Post by EarbyClaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:18 pm

warksclaret wrote:Just cant see SD starting with 443
Me neither unfortunately - but I think it would give us a very good chance if he did :D

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by mdd2 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:35 pm

A hairline fracture somewhere around the shoulder means to me he will be off longer than any non contact sportsman and I would guess at least 6 weeks if not longer. Come back too soon and land on the shoulder and the hairline fracture becomes more like a "hair piece" fracture.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:37 pm

I would imagine that's why he'll miss just the one game with a free weekend after it. Three weeks.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:04 pm

This has Dave Jones contract written all over it.


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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Let's hope our failure to properly strengthen our midfield doesn't come back to bite us. We're now only an injury to Westwood or Hendrick away from being in massive trouble.
Amazing how few saw this as a possible and therefore massive problem.

Its bloody criminal how short we are in midfield.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:07 pm

claretnproud wrote:....
We cant just buy 15 and 20 million quid players willy nilly as cover for all positions. We are always going to have a few dodgy situations and even the biggest clubs have these problems. If right player is not available then we need to stick with what we have.
Well we did with vydra and gibson.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:14 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Well we did with vydra and gibson.
That’s not all positions though is it ?
Point being made was that we can’t do this for every position.
Though that said we brought in a midfielder who cost Chelsea £30m and is being paid £100k a week as cover for central midfield....and we already had Hendrick who cost £10m as competition for these positions.
Are people seriously saying that we should have brought in a 5th player to cover these 2 positions ?
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:42 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:If that happens we move Tarks into Midfield then take the dust sheets off Gibson
I just love the image of Gibson sitting under a dust sheet, just waiting for it to be taken off and suddenly he sees daylight!! (At least Long gets to visit the Emerald Isle every few weeks for a bit of lighthearted, not too serious kick about with his old mates and the odd Guiness in the pub after).

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:51 pm

Jack hasn't popped his cork only his shoulder.

Sure he'll be back soon.

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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:56 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I just love the image of Gibson sitting under a dust sheet, just waiting for it to be taken off and suddenly he sees daylight.
Can just imagine a thunderstorm at Barnfield, SD throwing a huge switch with Maniacal laughter and sparks flash and just like Frankensteins monster Gibbo rises from under the dust sheet... SD in a gruff voice saying "It lives hshaha hahaha hahaha
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Re: Jack Cork 'Minor Shoulder Fracture '

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:39 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Careful Firthy, questioning anything the club does or having a different opinion isn't allowed on here.
It's not the 'different opinion', it's the constant black cloud chasing.

It's very boring and it brings certain attention to you, which you only have yourself to blame.
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