Nakhi Wells

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:16 pm

Last I heard he'd been out on loan in one of the lower leagues.

Is he getting a game? ..or done anything of note in recent weeks.

just curious ...if there's anyone who keeps an eye on grass roots fooball ?

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:17 pm

Seems to be scoring for fun at QPR where I think he is on a seasons loan

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:19 pm

as wells as expected

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LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:19 pm

I think you know - he's banging in a fair few for QPR (7 so far this season including 1 against Rovers yesterday).

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:22 pm

A clever transfer at the time to cover any possible injuries. The fact it turned out that we didn't get injuries is irrelevant.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:28 pm

fatboy47 wrote:Last I heard he'd been out on loan in one of the lower leagues.

Is he getting a game? ..or done anything of note in recent weeks.

just curious ...if there's anyone who keeps an eye on grass roots fooball ?

He's on loan at QPR and scoring goals.

As said above a low or no risk signing for us who turned out not to be needed.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:32 pm

Hero yesterday.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:43 pm

FactualFrank wrote:A clever transfer at the time to cover any possible injuries. The fact it turned out that we didn't get injuries is irrelevant.

Hahaha...not playing today Frank old boy.

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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:46 pm

Duffer_ wrote:Hahaha...not playing today Frank old boy.

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I cba either tbh

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:A clever transfer at the time to cover any possible injuries. The fact it turned out that we didn't get injuries is irrelevant.

There was never anything to suggest that he was good enough for the PL and still isn't He was a panic buy, an injured one at that, due to poor recruitment. He is a solid League 1 striker and maybe in the Championship.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:54 pm

summitclaret wrote:There was never anything to suggest that he was good enough for the PL and still isn't He was a panic buy, an injured one at that, due to poor recruitment. He is a solid League 1 striker and maybe in the Championship.

Cool.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:58 pm

Well have you looked at his record. Where he has played and where he has got goals.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:00 pm

summitclaret wrote:There was never anything to suggest that he was good enough for the PL and still isn't He was a panic buy, an injured one at that, due to poor recruitment. He is a solid League 1 striker and maybe in the Championship.

That's why we only paid a few million for him...because he was unproven at PL level. Funny you have doubts he's good enough for the Championship. Shrewd signing but turned out we didn't need him. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:02 pm

No hindsight from me. I was very unhappy when we signed him as was made clear on here at the time.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:05 pm

summitclaret wrote:No hindsight from me. I was very unhappy when we signed him as was made clear on here at the time.

You're rarely in agreement with what the club does in any transfer window despite it being our most successful time in decades.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:21 pm

summitclaret, taio summed it up very well further up.

When we signed him, we had 3 fit forwards. Had one of those got injured, we no longer had a forward on the bench. It was, what, £5 million? Peanuts in today's crazy game. We were also never 100% certain of staying up, so had we gone down to the Championship he had the proven pedigree.

Now, as luck would have it, we didn't really need him, but had we got an injury, I guarantee those posters who lambasted the signing would have been, "Thank feck we signed a striker!"

Then, when it became apparent that we wouldn't need him, they once again came out with "Told you so".

As it happens, with the way the football world has gone (mental), we should expect £7-8 million if we sold him to a Championship club, so we'll get our money back anyway.

Was it a panic buy, as you say? Possibly - but even so, it would have been a panic 4th choice buy - just in case. I have no problem with 'just in case' transfers - the chances are they won't be needed, but all it takes is a nasty injury to a first teamer and you're without a paddle.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:27 pm

LeadBelly wrote:I think you know - he's banging in a fair few for QPR (7 so far this season including 1 against Rovers yesterday).

So he's playing at a very low level of football then.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:32 pm

taio wrote:You're rarely in agreement with what the club does in any transfer window despite it being our most successful time in decades.

Not true. I have always been supportive of bringing in young championship players like Tarks, Keane Taylor and Pope as cover initially. Also getting experience like Cork. I have been critical of the at times blind spot to risk by not having adquete cover in cm. This got us relegated once and almost last season.

I am fully behind the live within our means strategy including sticking to English speaking/northern Europe policy as the framework is vital.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:39 pm

FactualFrank wrote:summitclaret, taio summed it up very well further up.

When we signed him, we had 3 fit forwards. Had one of those got injured, we no longer had a forward on the bench. It was, what, £5 million? Peanuts in today's crazy game. We were also never 100% certain of staying up, so had we gone down to the Championship he had the proven pedigree.

Now, as luck would have it, we didn't really need him, but had we got an injury, I guarantee those posters who lambasted the signing would have been, "Thank feck we signed a striker!"

Then, when it became apparent that we wouldn't need him, they once again came out with "Told you so".

As it happens, with the way the football world has gone (mental), we should expect £7-8 million if we sold him to a Championship club, so we'll get our money back anyway.

Was it a panic buy, as you say? Possibly - but even so, it would have been a panic 4th choice buy - just in case. I have no problem with 'just in case' transfers - the chances are they won't be needed, but all it takes is a nasty injury to a first teamer and you're without a paddle.

We always need 4 strikers. I would have been happy then with 3 plus a young unproven one. However on a PL budget we should have been able to get one that could actually influence the game as a sub and not just as cover. Anyway Nakhi was never that player and never will be.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:43 pm

summitclaret wrote:Not true. I have always been supportive of bringing in young championship players like Tarks, Keane Taylor and Pope as cover initially. Also getting experience like Cork. I have been critical of the at times blind spot to risk by not having adquete cover in cm. This got us relegated once and almost last season.

I am fully behind the live within our means strategy including sticking to English speaking/northern Europe policy as the framework is vital.

Apologies, I was under the impression you moan non-stop during transfer windows. But I suspect if we hadn't started so well this season the tone of your above post would be completely different. Wells was an insurance policy that's all and fourth choice - I don't like paying for home insurance but do so because if something goes wrong I have the back-up. If he'd have needed to play and been poor you'd have a point.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:46 pm

FactualFrank wrote:As it happens, with the way the football world has gone (mental), we should expect £7-8 million if we sold him to a Championship club, so we'll get our money back anyway.

Oh, go on then Frank. Nahki's on loan to QPR until the end of season, at which point he will be out of contract. That said, you have hideously overvalued him even in a crazy inflationary market. Finally, it was not a case of Wells or nobody.

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summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:49 pm

My so called moaning has almost always been targeted at the blind spot in cm. A few year's ago it was about a similar blindspot re strikers.

If you are paying for insurance you are best to get the right sort of cover. Wells was Defacto 1star.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:51 pm

summitclaret wrote:My so called moaning has almost always been targeted at the blind spot in cm. A few year's ago it was about a similar blindspot re strikers.

If you are paying for insurance you are best to get the right sort of cover. Wells was Defacto 1star.

Pointless debate though - we'll get our money back and didn't need him. It turned out to be a sound move overall.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:56 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Pointless debate though - we'll get our money back and didn't need him. It turned out to be a sound move overall.

I'm not one of those who think his signing was necessarily a mistake (at the time), but how will we get our money back?

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:57 pm

FFS FF you can't sell an out of contract 30 year old player. We'll get nowt for him.

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summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:57 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Pointless debate though - we'll get our money back and didn't need him. It turned out to be a sound move overall.

You get today's happy clapper award for that conclusion and we won't get our money back - maybe £1m or 2 in Jan.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:57 pm

Wasnt aware he was out of contract? Why didnt QPR get him then on a free?

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:59 pm

summitclaret wrote:You get today's happy clapper award for that conclusion and we won't get our money back - maybe £1m or 2 in Jan.

He's on a season long loan, so we'll get nowt.

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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:00 pm

Duffer_ wrote:He's on a season long loan, so we'll get nowt.

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But he's contracted to Burnley?

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:01 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Wasnt aware he was out of contract? Why didnt QPR get him then on a free?

He isn't out of contract until the end of 19/20 season. Why didn't we sell him for £8m in the summer? Cos nobody valued him at anywhere near that, apart from you.

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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:02 pm

Duffer_ wrote:He isn't out of contract until the end of 19/20 season. Why didn't we sell him for £8m in the summer? Cos nobody valued him at anywhere near that, apart from you.

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I'll put a bid in.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote:summitclaret, taio summed it up very well further up.

When we signed him, we had 3 fit forwards. Had one of those got injured, we no longer had a forward on the bench. It was, what, £5 million? Peanuts in today's crazy game. We were also never 100% certain of staying up, so had we gone down to the Championship he had the proven pedigree.

Now, as luck would have it, we didn't really need him, but had we got an injury, I guarantee those posters who lambasted the signing would have been, "Thank feck we signed a striker!"

Then, when it became apparent that we wouldn't need him, they once again came out with "Told you so".

As it happens, with the way the football world has gone (mental), we should expect £7-8 million if we sold him to a Championship club, so we'll get our money back anyway.

Was it a panic buy, as you say? Possibly - but even so, it would have been a panic 4th choice buy - just in case. I have no problem with 'just in case' transfers - the chances are they won't be needed, but all it takes is a nasty injury to a first teamer and you're without a paddle.

On the 27th Aug Barnes, Wood and Vokes were all in the matchday squad at Spurs.

We signed Wells on the 31st Aug

On the 2nd Sept Walters started for Ireland in Georgia

On 16th Sept all four strikers were in the matchday squad at Liverpool.

Now tell me who was this injured striker that meant we had buy a 5th Striker. If I remember correctly Wells was injured when we signed him so not exactly an astute purchase to cover a short term striker shortage

Also worth noting Dyche was playing 4-5-1 with Hendrick in the No.10 role which makes the need for a 5th striker even more puzzling

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:18 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Wasnt aware he was out of contract? Why didnt QPR get him then on a free?

Because they couldnt meet his wage demands. He knows he is out of contract at the end of the season so will pocket a larger signing on fee if he is out of contract also.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:23 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Because they couldnt meet his wage demands. He knows he is out of contract at the end of the season so will pocket a larger signing on fee if he is out of contract also.

Ahh thanks for that. My initial point of signing him remains though.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Ahh thanks for that. My initial point of signing him remains though.

You missed out the word stupid near the end.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:05 pm

FactualFrank wrote:summitclaret, taio summed it up very well further up.

When we signed him, we had 3 fit forwards. Had one of those got injured, we no longer had a forward on the bench. It was, what, £5 million? Peanuts in today's crazy game. We were also never 100% certain of staying up, so had we gone down to the Championship he had the proven pedigree.

Now, as luck would have it, we didn't really need him, but had we got an injury, I guarantee those posters who lambasted the signing would have been, "Thank feck we signed a striker!"

Then, when it became apparent that we wouldn't need him, they once again came out with "Told you so".

As it happens, with the way the football world has gone (mental), we should expect £7-8 million if we sold him to a Championship club, so we'll get our money back anyway.

Was it a panic buy, as you say? Possibly - but even so, it would have been a panic 4th choice buy - just in case. I have no problem with 'just in case' transfers - the chances are they won't be needed, but all it takes is a nasty injury to a first teamer and you're without a paddle.

That's all very true and all very well reasoned Frank, BUT it doesn't allow for the fact that before we signed him he was injured and needed an operation, plus some recuperation time, so he was incapable of filling the short term hole which COULD have appeared with an injury to another striker.
Huddersfield fans were actually mostly very sorry to see him go, but that was because he'd been a big part of their promotion push and was clearly a threat in the Championship. This is where I do tend to agree with you and think the "insurance" we were seeking was not short term cover, but actually a proven Championship goalscorer should we go down and need to make sales and cut backs.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:02 pm

Nakhi Wells cost as much as the two new corner stands. I know where the better money was spent.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:19 pm

Always gold from muchacho when he’s hungover on a Sunday.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:17 pm

FactualFrank wrote:A clever transfer at the time to cover any possible injuries. The fact it turned out that we didn't get injuries is irrelevant.

Signing an injured striker in case we had any strikers injured seems a bit paradoxical.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:39 pm

Wells was subject to a 2.5m bid on the Monday before the window closed.

Reports were we were trying to offload Vydra to recoup our outlay, or involve him in a cash plus player swap for Phillips.
That would have then left is with Wells as 4th choice and a wedge of cash in the bank or Phillips.

None of that happened, there were no takers on Vydra, so we let Wells leave on loan for the season as we didnt want or need 5 forwards.

The cynics may say Dyche was helping his pal Warburton too, but think it was a spinning a few plates scenario, and we ended up missing out on our target, our preferred forward to leave and on a lump of cash either 8m or 2.5m.

Just the way it goes sometimes.

But overall he has been a very costly mistake for 1 reason or another.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:16 pm

Well Well Wells scores v Wovers

Worth every penny we paid to see him put another nail in Wovers coffin