I have just watched the film Joker for the second time with my Cineworld Unlimited card and will be watching it again on Tuesday evening with my Daughter

I thought it was excellent and Joaquin Phoenix was brilliant and IMO should be a contender for best Actor

Loved it in a morbid way

Going this week. The reviews are excellent.

I recorded 'Casablanca' with Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman the other day. I am going to watch it later tonight for about the 24th time.

Of all the message boards....

Just watched it myself Joaquin Phoenix brilliant, never seen a film like it before. Would definitely recommend, it one if those films that you need to watch in the cinema rather than watching it on the TV

Planning on seeing it next weekend - looks excellent. Joaquin Phoenix is a great actor. Really enjoyed his performance as Johnny Cash in Walk the Line. I recommend Her as well - interesting but weird film.

Will be watching this week. Looking forward to it....

A chunk of irony with Americans claiming it 'glamourizes gun crime'.

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Il watch it once but certainly not 2or 3 times

The end twist ....

dougcollins wrote:A chunk of irony with Americans claiming it 'glamourizes gun crime'.

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Bang on but then again it is the mail....

Literally just got back from seeing it.

Superb stuff, Phoenix was absolutely brilliant and fully deserving of at least an Oscar nomination.

Watched the aforementioned Her again last night, one of my favourite films, so different.

Her is a brilliant film. Looking forward to seeing this when I get the chance.

Is it a batman spin off as I have nt seen any of them?

fanzone wrote:Is it a batman spin off as I have nt seen any of them?

Kind of yep
You need to watch Dark Knight - one of best films ever and i’m not a Batman fan

Looking forward to seeing Joker - looks great

It's nothing like a Batman film, very dark and disturbing.

The reviews have been pretty mixed but I for one cannot wait to see it. Phoenix is one of the best character actors out there.

Can I recommend you watch "The king Of Comedy" 1982 first, then this / after if already seen.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085794/

I can give you many reasons but don't wish to spoil this.

do not watch this film.

it makes incels look like real human beings and if you go to watch it you are directly contributing to mass shootings and misogyny. I read it on the Hill, trust me.

Jambounchained wrote:Literally just got back from seeing it.

Superb stuff, Phoenix was absolutely brilliant and fully deserving of at least an Oscar nomination.

Watched the aforementioned Her again last night, one of my favourite films, so different.

So you'd recommend it?

Thought the acting from Joaquin Phoenix was great. But the film itself not so sure.

For a start he would have been locked up early in the film if not before. Not to mention the exaggerated last third of the film.

Also think it does no favours whatsoever for mental health.

Its basically Freddy got Fingered trying to be serious.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The end twist ....

Really? Thought it was entirely predictable myself.

HunterST_BFC wrote:Can I recommend you watch "The king Of Comedy" 1982 first, then this / after if already seen.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085794/

I can give you many reasons but don't wish to spoil this.

Did remind me a little of king of comedy. But KOC is far better imo.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Really? Thought it was entirely predictable myself.

Is he Keyser Söze?

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Thought the acting from Joaquin Phoenix was great. But the film itself not so sure.

For a start he would have been locked up early in the film if not before. Not to mention the exaggerated last third of the film.

Also think it does no favours whatsoever for mental health.

Its basically Freddy got Fingered trying to be serious.

Maybe the final third only happened in his head. It ended with him locked up, maybe that happened earlier in the film after one of the other incidents, and he was imagining the rest.

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Really? Thought it was entirely predictable myself.

Did you?

Personally I'm not sure if the whole film was played out in his mind, if the events happened and part way through he was locked up, or was he locked up after the final shooting etc.

If you're able to narrow it down then fair play to you.

Lord Beamish wrote:Is he Keyser Söze?

Ask Vino Blanco

Blackburn ****.

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Maybe the final third only happened in his head. It ended with him locked up, maybe that happened earlier in the film after one of the other incidents, and he was imagining the rest.

I dont think it was THAT clever or even trying to be.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Did you?

Personally I'm not sure if the whole film was played out in his mind, if the events happened and part way through he was locked up, or was he locked up after the final shooting etc.

If you're able to narrow it down then fair play to you.

Im usually not the best at predicting an ending. But thought it was very predictable what wouldnt happen (trying not to give spoilers) with de niros character and what would. Also thought was obvious (after the train scene) what would happen in the car. And when where he was at the end figured what would happen. The writing was on the wall. Literally. It said on the wall for staff not to be unaccompanied.

Lot of waffle to not answer the question.....thanks.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Lot of waffle to not answer the question.....thanks.

Interesting response. Thanks.

Just seen it.

Fantastic film.

The hype around it is total nonsense where people have walked out etc...

Just one of those films like Falling Down, brilliantly acted and not to be taken too seriously much like any good film.

As for it’s so dark, don’t go to see it etc that’s rubbish and best not to take these things too seriously.

Phoenix must get an Oscar imo...

There is way too much over-analysis going on over in the US as to hidden plots and twists. I’m with Cricketfieldclaret, just enjoy it and take it at face value

What IS being underplayed here is the core message from the film of how society does not want mental illness to be present and visible in its general vicinity. The individual does not know how to react to its display, and therefore would prefer it hidden. Damn the mentally ill for not taking the feelings of the “sane” into account.

As for Joachim Phoenix, yes incredible acting, but there is an argument that the director indulged him rather than directed him, and so the movie became an exercise in “Joachim Phoenix” as opposed to the character he played.

Watched it earlier with the gf. Will put more later as on phone but when it ended I just said, "Well that was different".

Decent, but that's about it.

BurnleyFC wrote:Decent, but that's about it.

It came across to me like he'd had enough of his mental illness with regards to people looking down on him. So decided instead he'd basically kill anybody who doesn't accept him into society. But at the same time it was a powerful message to those on the other side - to treat everybody as equal.

Very clever producers as they never give a difinitive answer.

Vino blanco wrote:I recorded 'Casablanca' with Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman the other day. I am going to watch it later tonight for about the 24th time.

Oh no, you’re not going to play it again are you?

***Spoilers***

I thought it was ok, but it was a bit too much like a sideways version of Taxi Driver for me, way too many similarities.

- Mentally unstable man on the fringes of broken society
- Stalks girl who's not interested
- Plans assassination of public figure
- Mock gunshot to the head reference

I also thought it odd that Arthur Fleck must be about 40 in the film, if he does go on to become the Joker that we know from DC surely he'd be a pensioner by the time Bruce Wayne is an adult. It'd be a dodgy hip that'd thwart him, not Batman

This sums it up perfectly..

'What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? I’ll tell you what you get. You get what you f*cking deserve."

Vino blanco wrote:I recorded 'Casablanca' with Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman the other day. I am going to watch it later tonight for about the 24th time.

It gets better the 25th time.

Play it again Vino

Went to see it tonight and this thread makes a lot more sense now.
I thought it was fantastic tbh...unremittingly bleak ..I like a bit of bleakness and melancholy in my films and music....and a brilliantly shot, and scored, depiction of one man's spiral into a very dark place. As Factual Frank indicates with the quote above it's a film about society breaking down and the impact on someone on the margins. Thought Phoenix..who I don't always like..was brilliant and will be very surprised if no Oscar.
Funnily enough I also had the thought about the age gap between Joker and Batman but don't really care as I have no interest in the super-hero Marvel films. Watched Joker on my son's recommendation and assurance that no-one wore tights and a cape and i"m very glad I did.

Yeah, I can see this.

Just watched it. Phoenix was excellent. Very dark.

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Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:22 pm

Just watched it. Phoenix was excellent. Very dark.

I thought it was excellent. I saw it as a case of, if you bully or look down on other people then you deserve everything you get.

Brilliant film. I had to watch it twice to fully understand. Acting was unbelievable.

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:59 am

Brilliant film. I had to watch it twice to fully understand. Acting was unbelievable.

The acting of JP was amazing,you could almost touch his sadness