Barrow A.F.C ...

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:02 pm

Relatively early days, but the National League is now over a third of the way through it's fixtures, and Barrow have tonight beaten Boreham Wood 3-1, to record their 7th straight win, and move up to 4th in the table, just 4 points off the leaders AFC Halifax ...

Barrow failed to be re-elected to the Football League in 1972, and they've never been near getting back to being a Football League Club before now .... best of luck to them !!

Quick Quiz : Who replaced Barrow in the Football League in 1972, Workington in 1977 and Southport in 1978 ?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:20 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Relatively early days, but the National League is now over a third of the way through it's fixtures, and Barrow have tonight beaten Boreham Wood 3-1, to record their 7th straight win, and move up to 4th in the table, just 4 points off the leaders AFC Halifax ...

Barrow failed to be re-elected to the Football League in 1972, and they've never been near getting back to being a Football League Club before now .... best of luck to them !!

Quick Quiz : Who replaced Barrow in the Football League in 1972, Workington in 1977 and Southport in 1978 ?

I'm guessing that Wimbledon (the original one) took Southport's place in 78,i'm flummoxed with the other 2 though.

Fenwick · Post by **Fenwick** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:28 pm

Maidstone ?

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:28 pm

Wimbledon is one of the three, but didn't replace Southport ....

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:32 pm

Fenwick wrote:Maidstone ?

Maidstone gained automatic promotion to the Football League in 1989, by winning the Conference the previous season ....

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:37 pm

Clarets4me wrote:Wimbledon is one of the three, but didn't replace Southport ....

Must have replaced Workington then,cause they were definitely a non-league team in 75 when they humbled us on the turf.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 pm

Accrington.....Wigan

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:11 am

Hereford replaced Barrow.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:16 am

A well known player of there's, I always knew him as Uncle Bill, though he was married to my cousin, was Billy MacAdams. An old N I teammate of Jimmy Macs. The first UK player to score a hat trick against West Germany, but still lost 4-3.
Would love to see Barrow back in the league.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:17 am

Hereford in 1972 on the back of a good cup run, and Wimbledon and Wigan the other two - not sure of the order. (I can't remember if Wimbledon had any sort of cup run.

(It's a bit embarrassing really that since the league went to 4 divisions in 1921 or so, only three non-league sides have won away to top division sides. And two of them were at Turf Moor.)

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:20 am

Think Wimbledon replaced Workington, two or three years after knocking us out.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:10 am

We're there ..... Hereford United replaced Barrow, Wimbledon replaced Workington and Wigan Athletic took Southport's place ....

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:15 am

I was at Park Primary School in 1972 and we had a music teacher called Mrs Moore. I remember her going off on an epic rant in a lesson about how unjust it was that Barrow were voted out......I remember thinking,even at that young age, how great it was to hear someone so passionate about their team and have kept an eye out for Barrow's results ever since. It's obviously a real backwater and it would be great if they could make their way back into the League.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:15 am

I do remember Workington replacing New Brighton in the 50’s and Posh replaced, from memory, Gateshead in 1960.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:51 am

Teams finishing bottom of the 4th division and actually being voted "out" was a very, very rare occurrence (hence only 3 answers to the quiz question) It was generally accepted that if a team finished bottom that the other clubs would simply re elect them and this almost always happened. It seemed that a club had to either finish bottom a number of times or appear to have real financial issues to lose their status.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:18 am

Barrow back in the football league?

Christ, there are few rougher places in the UK than Barrow.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:34 am

Who did Scarborough replace?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:48 am

Clarets4me wrote:We're there ..... Hereford United replaced Barrow, Wimbledon replaced Workington and Wigan Athletic took Southport's place ....

I don't think you have the nous of paxman or Bamber for running a quiz.... They at least respond to a correct answer....well done Tim of Cambridge ....Wigan is correct for one point!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:53 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Who did Scarborough replace?

Joe Gormley...

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:29 am

Clarets4me wrote:Relatively early days, but the National League is now over a third of the way through it's fixtures, and Barrow have tonight beaten Boreham Wood 3-1, to record their 7th straight win, and move up to 4th in the table, just 4 points off the leaders AFC Halifax ...

Barrow failed to be re-elected to the Football League in 1972, and they've never been near getting back to being a Football League Club before now .... best of luck to them !!

Quick Quiz : Who replaced Barrow in the Football League in 1972, Workington in 1977 and Southport in 1978 ?

Hereford replaced Barrow
Wimbledon replaced Workington
Wigan replaced Southport

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:30 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Who did Scarborough replace?

Scarborough were promoted, the first team to be so, with the new rules in 1987 with Lincoln relegated. That's the easy one because that was the year we nearly went down.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:Scarborough were promoted, the first team to be so, with the new rules in 1987 with Lincoln relegated. That's the easy one because that was the year we nearly went down.

A Scarborough side managed by Neil Warnock if I am not mistaken.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am

Personally hope Halifax can give it a real push this season as I live and work there and have attended a couple of games at The Shay over the past 2 seasons. In the summer they went full time so this may be an added bonus to them have the players train all week rather than 2/3 nights and working other jobs as well.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:51 am

ClaretTony wrote:Scarborough were promoted, the first team to be so, with the new rules in 1987 with Lincoln relegated. That's the easy one because that was the year we nearly went down.

And although we tend to forget, that's what made the situation surrounding the "Orient game" so much worse and even more galling. Under the old rules right up to that year, we'd almost certainly have been re elected had we finished bottom.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:56 am

claretburns wrote:A Scarborough side managed by Neil Warnock if I am not mistaken.

Correct. And what an introduction they had to league football. First few home fixtures they had Wolves on the opening day, Bolton shortly after then Burnley at the beginning of October. All 3 clubs with large away followings and all 3 games had a fair amount of disorder. I drove to the game and got pulled along with 2 other cars and a van as we were approaching Scarborough. They searched all the people and vehicles, to the point of lifting the carpet out of the boot and taking the spare wheel out to check under that. The morning before we set off, I had fitted new door seals to my car, and in the door pocket I had a Stanley knife and a screwdriver. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to remove these before we set off otherwise I don't think we would have got to the game.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:02 am

Dark Cloud wrote:Teams finishing bottom of the 4th division and actually being voted "out" was a very, very rare occurrence (hence only 3 answers to the quiz question) It was generally accepted that if a team finished bottom that the other clubs would simply re elect them and this almost always happened. It seemed that a club had to either finish bottom a number of times or appear to have real financial issues to lose their status.

The main reason clubs got voted out was because they were too far away and other clubs didn't like going there. Barrow, Workington, and before that Gateshead, all got chucked out in circumstances where the likes of Rochdale were safe.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:19 am

claretburns wrote:A Scarborough side managed by Neil Warnock if I am not mistaken.

It was Warnock

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:20 am

Dark Cloud wrote:And although we tend to forget, that's what made the situation surrounding the "Orient game" so much worse and even more galling. Under the old rules right up to that year, we'd almost certainly have been re elected had we finished bottom.

I don't think there would have been any doubt that we'd have been re-elected given how rarely clubs failed.

LS7 · Post by **LS7** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:21 am

Interestingly I read somewhere that Barrow’s training ground is near Rochdale somewhere so the players only have to travel to Barrow for the games. Must help massively with player recruitment.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:05 am

claretburns wrote:A Scarborough side managed by Neil Warnock if I am not mistaken.

Anyone remember the interview Warnock did with local TV prior to them starting the new season in 87? He highlighted as much as he could on behalf of the town of Scarborough and when he was told they were no longer recording said something to the effect of ' you don't honestly believe any of that,do you? A likeable chap.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:13 am

ClaretTony wrote:It was Warnock

Digressing rather, but a few years later a bunch of us were in Scarborough for a p*ss up week end (nothing to do with footy) and we spotted Warnock sitting with a female companion in a quiet corner of a pub fairly late at night. One lad went over to speak to him (when most of us were happy to respect his privacy tbh), but he bizarrely flatly denied that he even WAS Neil Warnock, when he quite obviously was. He left fairly quickly and we tended to assume his rendezvous was "off the record".

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:19 am

I drove to Scarb for that match which was one of many we lost Dark times for us Clarets.It also was the start of our "love affair" with Warnock

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:22 am

Yep I really don't miss visiting Scarborough for games for some reason!!! BUT one bright spot: following a humiliating drubbing, Casper finally went and Mullen took over and the rest is as they say............(And I don't think we ever had to go again!!!)

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:52 am

tim_noone wrote:I don't think you have the nous of paxman or Bamber for running a quiz.... They at least respond to a correct answer....well done Tim of Cambridge ....Wigan is correct for one point!

I found your answer muddled and devoid of clarity, hence the lack of response.
" Tim of Cambridge " will just have to wait for another " starter for 10 " ....

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:49 pm

Update ...... Barrow's 1-0 home win tonight over Dover ( that's a trip home I wouldn't fancy ! ) leaves them 7 points clear at the top, with only 12 games left and a much superior goal difference .....

A new League ground for the " 92 " Club members may well be beckoning, unless you visited prior to 1972 !

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:50 pm

It’s a bloody awful trip - I went in 2012 for a pre season friendly

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:16 pm

I used to watch Barrow when I lived up there, cos it was a bloody awful trip getting to the Turf.

ralphdpomeroy · Post by **ralphdpomeroy** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:28 pm

I was last up there for a derby game against Workington .. Holker Street mmm .. one or two will get a shock when they arrive there for a Football League fixture

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:29 pm

When I was a Bury supporter,Barrow visited Gigg Lane on a Good Friday and were walloped 4-0.
It was a memorable match because I witnessed the best own goal that I had ever seen when a Barrow player played the ball from the touchline level with the halfway line.
Incidently,in those days teams used to play Good Friday,Saturday and Easter Monday.
Also,in those days you didn't have to finish bottom to go out of the League as it was the bottom 4 that had to seek re-election.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:24 pm

I've been to Barrow, when Colne Dynamoes played there in the FA Trophy semi-final in 1990. Do I get a brownie point?

(We lost. And their players spent so long being injured every time they were touched or even approached, they made Arsenal look virile.)