Extinction Rebellion

[Lowbankclaret]

Have you been drinking Turtle? I can't even work out what you're trying to say today. Honestly.

It's been a fairly wild, incoherent return on here from you, but still good to have you back nonetheless.

I think he is laying it all the politicians door.

We apparently are thick morons without a brain.

[claretonthecoast1882]

The last 20 years disproves that. The public are ******* morons who are so lazy that they choose to believe easily debunked bullshit because they don't want to change their habits.

Yourself excluded obviously genius

[claretnproud]

Disrupting public transport was a totally inappropriate form of protest - as pointed out it is one of the things that should be encouraged. I don't think the intention was to protest against public transport but rather just again gain publicity for the message that action is needed. Its backfired today, obviously.

Extinction Rebellion though isn't an organised and coordinated protest group, its a message that is attempting to put climate change at the front of politician's policy making. Individuals cant reverse what is happening it needs coordinated action from governments, and unfortunately that includes governments that focus on their leaders self interest rather than any greater good such as China, Russia and the US.

Its very easy to be critical and throw derogatory terms around like Boris does, but the protestors include a wide cross section of ages and society who want something better for the future generations. The protests may not have any significant effect but at least these people are trying - not something that can be said by the people who find it easy to be critical.

There were probably allsorts of people waiting for that train. Carers...people going to a doctors or hospital appointment etc etc, If that is the level of thought they put into a protest then good that they got a kicking.....maybe they will think of more appropriate protest next time.

[AndrewJB]

I think he is laying it all the politicians door.

We apparently are thick morons without a brain.

It is the government that has to take the lead. It won’t happen any other way.

[Imploding Turtle]

Yourself excluded obviously genius

Yes. Because i don't believe bullshit once it's shown to be bullshit.

[Imploding Turtle]

I think he is laying it all the politicians door.

We apparently are thick morons without a brain.

You said it, not me.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Yes. Because i don't believe bullshit once it's shown to be bullshit.

Has jockie been on the buckie ?

[Imploding Turtle]

Have you been drinking Turtle? I can't even work out what you're trying to say today. Honestly.

It's been a fairly wild, incoherent return on here from you, but still good to have you back nonetheless.

You can't attack my argument, so you attack my character. Pathetic but predictable.

[ElectroClaret]

There's one up on the scaffolding surrounding Big Ben now.

[chadders]

Its easy to find fault with folk and find ways to dismiss ER's actions. It distracts from the real issue which is pretty darn serious and its happening now. We all have a part (small or big) to play in trying to save lives on this planet of ours. And it is our environment not just theirs. i daresay they won't always get it right in terms of how they present their message but the problem is very real and in the great scheme of things distrupting a train is pretty insignificant ( I think that was misguided). Funding to the tune of £2.4 million is sod all to create a change to save our children from a very tight spot. Unfortunately this climate crisis won't go away if we ignore it and time is ticking. it would be great to be blissfully unaware and think its someones elses problem but it would be much more helpful if folk could lend a hand to get us out of this mess. UTC

[Imploding Turtle]

There's one up on the scaffolding surrounding Big Ben now.

If he falls i wonder if it'll draw more serious attention to the problem of us ******* up our planet, instead of dumb pricks mocking people for taking this threat seriously.

It seems like it should be an easy protest. "Make your lives better or we'll continue to protest". lol. Why wouldn't you want to make your life, and the lives of your children, better? Maybe one of the pro-fossil fuel fktards on her could explain that one to us.

[Imploding Turtle]

... Funding to the tune of £2.4 million is sod all to create a change to save our children from a very tight spot. ...

I'm pretty sure the people who are raising questions about the funding are those who are itching to put triple parentheses around the names of those they think are funding it.
It's all a plot by George Soros, you see.

[dsr]

If he falls i wonder if it'll draw more serious attention to the problem of us [deleted] up our planet, instead of dumb [deleted] mocking people for taking this threat seriously.

It seems like it should be an easy protest. "Make your lives better or we'll continue to protest". lol. Why wouldn't you want to make your life, and the lives of your children, better? Maybe one of the pro-fossil fuel [deleted] on her could explain that one to us.

I suppose one of their aims is to abolish the internet, on the grounds of the vast amounts of power it consumes on mostly non-productive stuff. And if they do that, it will save you a lot of bans from posting.

[Imploding Turtle]

I suppose one of their aims is to abolish the internet, on the grounds of the vast amounts of power it consumes on mostly non-productive stuff. And if they do that, it will save you a lot of bans from posting.

Where is that a stated goal, or have you just pulled that from your arse like you do everything else you say?

[dsr]

Where is that a stated goal, or [deleted]

Why are you such a nasty piece of work? Why is being foul and disgusting worth all those bans?

It isn't a stated goal so far as I know, but since internet storage consumes about 2% of the world's power use - more than the entire global airline industry - it would obviously be a target. Cutting down on non-productive stuff like music downloads, incessant texting, and of course public message boards can only be good for the environment.

The song "Despacito" consumes more power than Central African Republic. Surely this sort of thing should be high on their "frivolous use of power" lists. If not, why not?

[Imploding Turtle]

It isn't a stated goal so far as I know,

So you were full of ****. Thanks for clearing that up.

Maybe if you took the discussion seriously then the rest of us would take you seriously.

[Imploding Turtle]

The song "Despacito" consumes more power than Central African Republic. Surely this sort of thing should be high on their "frivolous use of power" lists. If not, why not?

Do they have a "frivolous use of power" list, or is that another thing you've pulled out of your arse?

[Murger]

So you were full of ****. Thanks for clearing that up.

Maybe if you took the discussion seriously then the rest of us would take you seriously.

There's no point in taking anything seriously whilst your around. You're such an argumentative gobshite and you don't even care.

[Lord Rothbury]

There's one up on the scaffolding surrounding Big Ben now.

He will come down soon probably when it is Giro day.

[Imploding Turtle]

He will come down soon probably when it is Giro day.

But my debate style is why some people don't take the issue seriously

Am i really supposed to respect this?

[Lowbankclaret]

Well I have just been on their website and good 14 year old could have put that together.

It just. Repeats itself again and again.

It quotes reports without links .

The main thing is it all about protesting without any real clear aims.

[Lord Rothbury]

But my debate style is why some people don't take the issue seriously

Am i really supposed to respect this?

To be honest I don't really care

[Imploding Turtle]

To be honest I don't really care

Wasn't talking to you.

[Imploding Turtle]

The main thing is it all about protesting without any real clear aims.

What is it about this that you're having trouble with? Seriously. Are there words here you don't know? Sentences you don't understand?


"We are unprepared for the danger our future holds. We face floods, wildfires, extreme weather, crop failure, mass displacement and the breakdown of society. The time for denial is over. It is time to act.

Conventional approaches of voting, lobbying, petitions and protest have failed because powerful political and economic interests prevent change. Our strategy is therefore one of non-violent, disruptive civil disobedience – a rebellion.

Historical evidence shows that we need the involvement of 3.5% of the population to succeed – in the UK that’s about 2 million people."

[Lowbankclaret]

What is it about this that you're having trouble with? Seriously. Are there words here you don't know? Sentences you don't understand?


"We are unprepared for the danger our future holds. We face floods, wildfires, extreme weather, crop failure, mass displacement and the breakdown of society. The time for denial is over. It is time to act.

Conventional approaches of voting, lobbying, petitions and protest have failed because powerful political and economic interests prevent change. Our strategy is therefore one of non-violent, disruptive civil disobedience – a rebellion.

Historical evidence shows that we need the involvement of 3.5% of the population to succeed – in the UK that’s about 2 million people."

And there’s the issue, people have been walking round with plaques saying “the end is nigh” for years.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

And there’s the issue, people have been walking round with plaques saying “the end is nigh” for years.

So it's not happening? Climate Change is a myth?

Is it ok to keep going as we are then?

[Lowbankclaret]

So it's not happening? Climate Change is a myth?

Is it ok to keep going as we are then?

Don’t think you read the rest of my posts.

I agree things need to change, and am prepared to change.

However claiming the end is near now is not going to get people on board.

[fanzone]

They all need lining up warned that there benefits will be stopped if the don't pack it in, failing that Shoot them

[AndrewJB]

Don’t think you read the rest of my posts.

I agree things need to change, and am prepared to change.

However claiming the end is near now is not going to get people on board.

How would you get people on board?

[Lowbankclaret]

How would you get people on board?

Simple bold messages backed by great science.
Don’t complicate it.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Don’t think you read the rest of my posts.

I agree things need to change, and am prepared to change.

However claiming the end is near now is not going to get people on board.

It is and has, hence the massive swell of support recently.

[Lowbankclaret]

It is and has, hence the massive swell of support recently.

Read the site today.

It’s still a bunch of weed smoking hippies in the main, that is why many will not engage.

[TsarBomba]

I’ve been up in Central London this week policing the XR demonstrations.

The protesters I’ve spoken to have all been pretty decent. Most, if not all, have jobs, families, and seem normal, hard working folk, just concerned about the environment. There’s been very little animosity towards the Police.

The more radical elements of XR, including their leadership, have done nothing to help their cause in the long run. They are completely ignorant to the wider effect their protest is having on businesses, transport infrastructure, public services etc.

From a policing perspective, this past week has shown there is very little contingency left to deal with widespread disorder.

Roll on Brexit

[Imploding Turtle]

And there’s the issue, people have been walking round with plaques saying “the end is nigh” for years.

No, here's the issue. Otherwise not stupid people making dumb-as-**** arguments like this one equating scientific consensus and fact with a homeless crazy guy holding a doomsday sign.

[Lowbankclaret]

As I pointed out, big money backers.

This ones a bit strange having a major stake in an airport.

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[Imploding Turtle]

As I pointed out, big money backers.

This ones a bit strange having a major stake in an airport.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rport.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So what?

[Lowbankclaret]

People were claiming they were unorganised.

Just. Added proof of the hypocrisy of them.

There is also a clip of one of the leaders on Gmb getting rinsed by Piers.

She was shown to be a bloody hypocrite.

[Imploding Turtle]

People were claiming they were unorganised.

Just. Added proof of the hypocrisy of them.

There is also a clip of one of the leaders on Gmb getting rinsed by Piers.

She was shown to be a bloody hypocrite.

How is it hypocritical to accept donations? I've donated to them but i also use fossil fuels sometimes. Does this mean i'm a hypocrite too?

You just seem hilariously desperate to find any reason whatsoever to try and convince yourself that people saying we should do something about climate change don't need to be listened to.

Maybe if people like you spent half as much effort supporting action to solve climate change as you do trying to find an excuse not to then maybe the planet wouldn't be in such a state.

[Lowbankclaret]

How is it hypocritical to accept donations? I've donated to them but i also use fossil fuels sometimes. Does this mean i'm a hypocrite too?

You just seem hilariously desperate to find any reason whatsoever to try and convince yourself that people saying we should do something about climate change don't need to be listened to.

Maybe if people like you spent half as much effort supporting action to solve climate change as you do trying to find an excuse not to then maybe the planet wouldn't be in such a state.

You obviously don’t read or remember my posts.

I suggest I do significantly more than you do.

I also think we need to do a lot more, however they are a set of hypocrites.

[AndrewJB]

You obviously don’t read or remember my posts.

I suggest I do significantly more than you do.

I also think we need to do a lot more, however they are a set of hypocrites.

You’ll find hypocrites everywhere if you look hard enough. It’s for you and your descendants to decide whether you spent your time better in supporting the movement or picking holes in people who do.

[Lowbankclaret]

You’ll find hypocrites everywhere if you look hard enough. It’s for you and your descendants to decide whether you spent your time better in supporting the movement or picking holes in people who do.

It’s kinda funny.

Over twenty years ago I bought a Philips low energy bulb, I took home about £130 a week at the time. It cost £15.

Two of my mates I worked with thought I was bonkers.

We did the calcs and they had to agree I was saving money and the planet, that was in the late 80’s early 90’s.

One of them now has a bore hole for water and a 6kw wind turbine for electric.

My house is not suitable or I would have renewables.

[Lowbankclaret]

Just to add, I have just had my Sunday lunch.

Meat from Burnley, links been done before.
Potatoes from Bacup.

Sprouts, carrots and parsnips from my allotment

[AndrewJB]

Just to add, I have just had my Sunday lunch.

Meat from Burnley, links been done before.
Potatoes from Bacup.

Sprouts, carrots and parsnips from my allotment

It’s good, and you see the benefit yourself. Sadly, we’re there a hundred more of you and I we’d still make no material difference. Not to say we shouldn’t try, but until the U.K. government works seriously toward local and global solutions, our efforts are in vain. This isn’t a bad thing. It’s an opportunity for every political party in the country to engage with new voters, and and attract new support. It’s also a huge economic opportunity. New technology, new industries, and new service sectors.

[Imploding Turtle]

Just to add, I have just had my Sunday lunch.

Meat from Burnley, links been done before.
Potatoes from Bacup.

Sprouts, carrots and parsnips from my allotment

Who did you vote for at the last general election?

[Paul Waine]

Just to add, I have just had my Sunday lunch.

Meat from Burnley, links been done before.
Potatoes from Bacup.

Sprouts, carrots and parsnips from my allotment

Hi Lowbank, I've just watched a bit of Motdx. Jermaine Jenas and veganism. Dale Vince, Forest Green (amongst other things) makes the case for veganism to reduce our carbon footprints. Chris Smalling also suggests that his meat free diet improved his fitness and injury recovery time.

It's worth a thought. Maybe we can all be vegans, maybe just one or two days a week.

[Andreshotboots]

Do they have a "frivolous use of power" list, or is that another thing you've pulled out of your arse?

If they have their diesel generator they used at their camp should be on it!!!

[dsr]

Hi Lowbank, I've just watched a bit of Motdx. Jermaine Jenas and veganism. Dale Vince, Forest Green (amongst other things) makes the case for veganism to reduce our carbon footprints. Chris Smalling also suggests that his meat free diet improved his fitness and injury recovery time.

It's worth a thought. Maybe we can all be vegans, maybe just one or two days a week.

I'm willing to be vegan between meals. I won't go further than that. (I count all snacks as vegan!)

Seriously, if veganism is a point of principle, you can't do it part time.

[Lowbankclaret]

Who did you vote for at the last general election?

In an act of stupidity, I voted for Julie.

Never again.

[Lowbankclaret]

Hi Lowbank, I've just watched a bit of Motdx. Jermaine Jenas and veganism. Dale Vince, Forest Green (amongst other things) makes the case for veganism to reduce our carbon footprints. Chris Smalling also suggests that his meat free diet improved his fitness and injury recovery time.

It's worth a thought. Maybe we can all be vegans, maybe just one or two days a week.

I am not sure it works to well for me.

I agree lots of people are saying it will help climate change. I have not scrutinised the evidence but have seen issues like cows farting or something.

The reason I don’t think it works for me is I have birch pollen allergy syndrome and nut allergies that require me to carry two epipens at all times.

So when you remove fruit, nuts and several other food items I cannot eat. I might just struggle .

However meat free days are probably a good idea.

[Lowbankclaret]

Hi Lowbank, I've just watched a bit of Motdx. Jermaine Jenas and veganism. Dale Vince, Forest Green (amongst other things) makes the case for veganism to reduce our carbon footprints. Chris Smalling also suggests that his meat free diet improved his fitness and injury recovery time.

It's worth a thought. Maybe we can all be vegans, maybe just one or two days a week.

Just had quick look online. Of the 11 main vegan foods.

I can eats beans, lentils.
Seaweed.
Tofu, might be allergic to it, don’t know as I have never eaten it.
And vegetables.

I think you could just about do a day a week of all three meals from that.

But it’s gunna get a bit boring after a while.