ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

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ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:19 pm

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Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Thank goodness for the emergence of McNeil as none of our other Wide men can seem to string half a dozen games together for the past couple if seasons.

Think it'll be ( or should be ) the number 1 position along with CM that we look at strengthening in January

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Must be serious if Dyche has come out and said weeks. He normally tries to play injuries down.

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Post by Blackrod » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:51 pm

Think the club should have control and over when a player is available to play for their country if they haven’t been back long after injury.

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:52 pm

Aston Villa at home New Years Day will be my prediction. This injury is bad news.

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:03 pm

Everybody else is saying Cork definitely out.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:10 pm

MACCA wrote:Thank goodness for the emergence of McNeil as none of our other Wide men can seem to string half a dozen games together for the past couple if seasons.

Think it'll be ( or should be ) the number 1 position along with CM that we look at strengthening in January
Agreed. Lennon isn't the long term answer and JBG can't seem to string 3 games together over the last 12 months.

I would hope (although I won't be holding my breath) we would look to spend a couple of quite substantial fees on the RM and CM positions if the right players are available.

It's an opportunity for Brady to get more game time though.... Hopefully he can stay fit!!
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Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:11 pm

Looks like we could soon be approaching the time when we find out whether bringing Drinkwater to the club was sensible / wise / vital or not.
One more injury in these areas, and we'll definitely need him - once available for selection.

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Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:19 pm

Well, Robbie Brady was our starter before he went down with injury a few years ago. Certainly is talented enough and I think he will be able to step in.
Lennon provides cover as well.

Will be interesting to see what we do in January. We should know more what JBG and Cork will be able to do for the rest of the year.
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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:21 pm

MACCA wrote:Thank goodness for the emergence of McNeil as none of our other Wide men can seem to string half a dozen games together for the past couple if seasons.

Think it'll be ( or should be ) the number 1 position along with CM that we look at strengthening in January
To be fair both Brady & Lennon have really had just one injury each although Brady, like so many players after a long injury, got a good few niggles. But he’s been fit for months now, apart from the rib, just can’t get in because of McNeil.

But JBG seems to get one injury after another.

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Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:To be fair both Brady & Lennon have really had just one injury each although Brady, like so many players after a long injury, got a good few niggles. But he’s been fit for months now, apart from the rib, just can’t get in because of McNeil.

But JBG seems to get one injury after another.
Could be playing with two lefties shortly :)

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Wide players do get kicked more

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:50 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Wide players do get kicked more
It’s a hamstring

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Post by kaptin1 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:55 pm

Use J-Rod as a wide midfielder or play him in a 4-3-3

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by houseboy » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:04 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Could be playing with two lefties shortly :)
JBG is a 'lefty' strictly speaking. Wonder if Brady could be as good at playing on the right? Think old Seany will have to do some re-shuffling this weekend and for the foreseeable. Think our squad is definitely in need of a refresh in January. Hope that JBG's lay off isn't too long, he is one of our most gifted players.

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:05 pm

houseboy wrote:JBG is a 'lefty' strictly speaking. Wonder if Brady could be as good at playing on the right? Think old Seany will have to do some re-shuffling this weekend and for the foreseeable. Think our squad is definitely in need of a refresh in January. Hope that JBG's lay off isn't too long, he is one of our most gifted players.
Brady played a lot on the right before he signed for us. Hasn’t done so much since we signed him.

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by houseboy » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:06 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Use J-Rod as a wide midfielder or play him in a 4-3-3
Your asking the gaffer to play 4-3-3. Good luck with that one. I personally agree it could be worth trying but Dyche changes things as slowly as a glacier.

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by houseboy » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Brady played a lot on the right before he signed for us. Hasn’t done so much since we signed him.
Could be worth a try. Maybe Brady himself might think it's a good idea as it would definitely be a way back into the team. The guy has enough skill so why not give it a try I suppose. I just can't see Dyche doing it but, as they say, desperate times call for desperate measures.

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm

houseboy wrote:Could be worth a try. Maybe Brady himself might think it's a good idea as it would definitely be a way back into the team. The guy has enough skill so why not give it a try I suppose. I just can't see Dyche doing it but, as they say, desperate times call for desperate measures.
I remember Dyche bringing him on as a sub at Anfield and playing him on the right. Dyche got dogs abuse on here for playing him out of position.

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Post by Tall Paul » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm

houseboy wrote:Your asking the gaffer to play 4-3-3. Good luck with that one. I personally agree it could be worth trying but Dyche changes things as slowly as a glacier.
We used that formation in the second half at Aston Villa.
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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:28 pm

houseboy wrote:Could be worth a try. Maybe Brady himself might think it's a good idea as it would definitely be a way back into the team. The guy has enough skill so why not give it a try I suppose. I just can't see Dyche doing it but, as they say, desperate times call for desperate measures.
I don't know, Dyche isn't completely against using wingers on the "wrong" side. Lennon has played on the left a bit for us. With the emergence of McNeil it's probably the only way Brady is going to get a chance.

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Post by AndyClaret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Hendrick Westy McNeil
Jay Wood Barnes

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:38 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Wide players do get kicked more
than who?

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Post by Reckoner » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:than who?
Thin ones. Easier to hit.
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Post by Goobs » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:44 pm

I assume Lennon will get the nod but it could be interesting to have McNeil and Brady both playing and switching sides throughout giving each a chance to come in from the right and have a shot, as they are both capable of decent strikes and allows for Lennon to come on later and use his pace if needed.

Personal preference would be for Hendrick to go right midfield if we have another fit CM.

4-3-3 has been used recently so is an option although not one I think we would intend to start with, especially at somewhere like Leicester.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:05 pm

Should sharpen a few minds going in to the next transfer window, not his fault he keeps getting injured but he doesn't play enough

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:06 pm

Anybody but Lennon for me. Assuming cork is out I would go Pope Lowton tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Hendrick Westwood McNeil
Barnes/ JRod Wood

Wonder how Vydra would work playing the JGB role ?

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Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:06 pm

I doubt many are surprised at this. But as mentioned, we (once again) have to try and improve in central midfield and on the right.
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Post by Local cricketer » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:08 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Anybody but Lennon for me. Assuming cork is out I would go Pope Lowton tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Hendrick Westwood McNeil
Barnes/ JRod Wood

Wonder how Vydra would work playing the JGB role ?

It wouldn't. He is a centre forward

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:51 pm

Local cricketer wrote:It wouldn't. He is a centre forward
He played mainly behind the strikers at Derby but not in a wide role. Although I seem to remember him playing wide midfield v England or maybe I am wrong.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:05 pm

Local cricketer wrote:It wouldn't. He is a centre forward
He can play on the flank, number 10 role or upfront, bit like Jay can do.

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Post by theroyaldyche » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:18 pm

Pay him off like defour

Get shut

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Post by gtclaret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:39 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Could be playing with two lefties shortly :)
Jbg is a lefty, the only natural right sided wide player is Lennon

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:49 pm

I'm all for making as few changes as possible.

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Lennon Hendrick Westwood McNeil
Wood Barnes

I'd be putting mainly defenders on the bench, So Brady, Rodrguez Bardsley Long Gibson Pieters (if fit) Hart
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Post by bfcmik » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:11 pm

Drinkwater not fit for this week and can't play next week against his parent club. Will he ever get an appearance?

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Post by bartons baggage » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:25 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I doubt many are surprised at this. But as mentioned, we (once again) have to try and improve in central midfield and on the right.
Well JBG being injured means we are already stronger on the right.

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Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:34 pm

Such a shame for JBG. There's a great player in there but he's constantly getting injured

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm

is there anyone in the youth set up that could step up and play the occasional game?

Koiki seems to playing well on the wing for the U23’s

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:46 pm

Minimum disruption is the key, when they have been playing well.
The news that Cork & Barnes are doubts throws a spanner in the works.
If they don’t make it I’d be looking at:

Pope
Lowton..Tarks..Mee..Taylor
McNeil..Westy..Hendrick..Brady
Wood..JRod

For those who can’t see Dwight on the right, he started the second half for U21s at RCM. He can play anywhere.

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Post by Foulthrow » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:41 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Pay him off like defour

Get shut
JBG? Are you crackers? He's been outstanding for Burnley, we paid peanuts for him and the moment he picks up the odd injury you want him binned off?
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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:24 pm

Foulthrow wrote:JBG? Are you crackers? He's been outstanding for Burnley, we paid peanuts for him and the moment he picks up the odd injury you want him binned off?
Hardly the odd injury is it though?

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Post by RVclaret » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:59 am

Can't remember the last game we played well in/got a result from that Lennon started.

Hopefully Brady is fit and gets the start.

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Post by ClaretAL » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:27 am

McNeil played out right for England the other night and in the times he did get the ball (very Seldom) he did ok. However i would prefer Hendrick on the Right, Brady on the Left and McNeil in CM.

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Post by CaptJohn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:51 am

This is where the depth of the current squad will be tested. I think we have one of the strongest squads we've ever had at the moment and I feel that we have cover in most positions. The logical choice would be to bring in Lennon on the right and keep Jeff in RM. Keeps the balance to the side and I feel that Lowton will have a touch more cover with Lennon in the side. SD will go with minimum disruption to the style we play so don't expect anything too radical, especially when we are away to one of the form teams in the league at present.

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Post by CaptJohn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:52 am

I forgot to add that anyone asking for JBG to be shipped out are mistaken IMHO. He's a quality player, just a tad unlucky.
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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:21 am

Wrap Westwood up in cotton wool - Hendrick can’t be everywhere. Where’s Arfield when you need him?

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Post by Rowls » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:27 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:Wrap Westwood up in cotton wool - Hendrick can’t be everywhere. Where’s Arfield when you need him?
Chris McCann will be like a new signing.

We've never replaced John Deary.

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Post by Rowls » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:27 am

Alan Harper?

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by houseboy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I remember Dyche bringing him on as a sub at Anfield and playing him on the right. Dyche got dogs abuse on here for playing him out of position.
Dyche will get abuse on here whatever happens mate. :D The problem seems to be sometimes he will experiment but then persists even when it is patently not working (Hendrick at number 10?). But then JBG being 'out of position' DOES work, amazingly well. I personally think Brady should be given a try, if it isn't working we have Lennon.

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Re: ARTICLE: JBG out for weeks

Post by houseboy » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:49 pm

Tall Paul wrote:We used that formation in the second half at Aston Villa.
True.

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