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The United Kingdom

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:14 pm

Scotland, Wales and Ireland constantly making threats, blocking deals, wanting to overthrow elected governments. I’m beginning to think let the UK split.

I’m proud to be (a) Lancastrian (b) English (c) European (d) a member of the World. The UK or Great Britain or Commonwealth mean nothing to me.

Should we ditch the moaners and leave them to survive by themselves?
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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:15 pm

It won't be long before Scotland has gone LCP

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:17 pm

I say let’s go to war against the “Scotch” and after victory change the name of the region to Really North.
Then do same to Welsh and Oirish.

After they are done turn our attention to France.
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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:20 pm

TVC15 wrote:I say let’s go to war against the “Scotch” and after victory change the name of the region to Really North.
Then do same to Welsh and Oirish.

After they are done turn our attention to France.
You will never get past the Hard border between Scotland & England

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:24 pm

I’m all for erecting large border fences and charging them to come into England to work or visit. It’s just the constant complaining that’s annoyed me. Like we English are terrible people.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:25 pm

Steve1956 wrote:You will never get past the Hard border between Scotland & England
:lol: :lol: :lol:
The Romans built a Wall m8.

Boris might just do a Donald and build a new one to keep you buggers in check :D

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:26 pm

Proud to be a member of the World, but Britain and 52 Commonwealth countries from around the globe mean nothing to him.

Logic is dead.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:26 pm

Steve1956 wrote:It won't be long before Scotland has gone LCP
You mean Joxit

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by mdd2 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:27 pm

When Scotland leave the Union I fear we could get years of one party Government and that would be bad for us. I cannot think of any other problems apart from maybe abandoning our nuclear weapons. Will cost a few bob to relocate from Faslane but that will create more jobs in England.
NI I am sure will also become part of a United Ireland eventually.As I think about 85% of the UK population lives in England and Wales I don't think we will suffer unduly from the break up. I hope Scotland will be OK and as part of the European Union it will be a net receiver of funds I imagine but in the Euro and if it thinks having to cow tow to London is bad, wait until it has to do as Germany says with its Economic policies

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:27 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Scotland, Wales and Ireland constantly making threats, blocking deals, wanting to overthrow elected governments. I’m beginning to think let the UK split.

I’m proud to be (a) Lancastrian (b) English (c) European (d) a member of the World. The UK or Great Britain or Commonwealth mean nothing to me.

Should we ditch the moaners and leave them to survive by themselves?
dangerous ground, once not long ago, you probably didn't mind the welsh, irish or scots. we were just a british isles mix, quite matey and with a long history of being in everything together including world wars. Nowadays it is clearly becoming us and them, with more than a touch of nastiness chucked in.
How insular do we all want to be? Lancashire is a strange thing to take pride in when you can so easily bin off entire nations and their people.

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Post by andyh » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:30 pm

Bosscat wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
The Romans built a Wall m8.

Boris might just do a Donald and build a new one to keep you buggers in check :D
Surely we would refer to Scotland as Beyond the Wall, We then need to empty the prisons into something we could call the Night’s Watch. Job done.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by mdd2 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:32 pm

Bosscat wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:
The Romans built a Wall m8.

Boris might just do a Donald and build a new one to keep you buggers in check :D
The Romans built two walls. Hadrians and further north the Antonine wall which ran from the Forth to the Clyde rivers.
Neither has kept the Scots at bay. :lol: :lol:

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:32 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:dangerous ground, once not long ago, you probably didn't mind the welsh, irish or scots. we were just a british isles mix, quite matey and with a long history of being in everything together including world wars. Nowadays it is clearly becoming us and them, with more than a touch of nastiness chucked in.
How insular do we all want to be? Lancashire is a strange thing to take pride in when you can so easily bin off entire nations and their people.
No I’m not insular. I really like being part of the bigger picture...European or occupant of planet Earth.

I don’t have a problem with Scottish, Irish or Welsh people but I am tired of their politician’s moaning and threatening to walk off into independence.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:32 pm

andyh wrote:Surely we would refer to Scotland as Beyond the Wall, We then need to empty the prisons into something we could call the Night’s Watch. Job done.
The Wildlings and Whitewalkers ;) in fact why not turn Scotland into a giant prison and just shove all the undesirables "Beyond the Wall"

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:34 pm

mdd2 wrote:When Scotland leave the Union I fear we could get years of one party Government and that would be bad for us. I cannot think of any other problems apart from maybe abandoning our nuclear weapons. Will cost a few bob to relocate from Faslane but that will create more jobs in England.
NI I am sure will also become part of a United Ireland eventually.As I think about 85% of the UK population lives in England and Wales I don't think we will suffer unduly from the break up. I hope Scotland will be OK and as part of the European Union it will be a net receiver of funds I imagine but in the Euro and if it thinks having to cow tow to London is bad, wait until it has to do as Germany says with its Economic policies
Why would the EU allow any new country to come in and take money out of the pot. A big hole will occur in about 5 years with the UK money dried up.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:36 pm

Bosscat wrote:The Wildlings and Whitewalkers ;) in fact why not turn Scotland into a giant prison and just shove all the undesirables "Beyond the Wall"
Edit... We've already got some up there already eh Steve ;)

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:38 pm

I'll be glad when Saturday comes and you lot start talking shite about Football instead of shite like this,I'm behind this wall .....:(
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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 pm

Can anyone tell me how England benefits from being part of UK ?

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:44 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Can anyone tell me how England benefits from being part of UK ?
Free movement across the United Kingdom.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:47 pm

Northern towns like Burnley have benefited for decades by having left wing politics stand up against the southern rich elite and we have had far more in common with places like Scotland and Wales than we have with the home counties

You may be well off and financially secure but if the union splits lets see how northern working class towns and the poorer people are treated by a Tory party that doesn't have to care one iota about winning their votes to stay in power
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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:49 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Can anyone tell me how England benefits from being part of UK ?
The United Kingdom is brilliant....apart from the Welsh..

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Post by Mala591 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:50 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Can anyone tell me how England benefits from being part of UK ?
Free access to tatties and neeps

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:53 pm

Steve1956 wrote:The United Kingdom is brilliant....apart from the Welsh..
Except Sam Vokes :lol:

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Free movement across the United Kingdom.
If we were 4 independent countries, would we need borders?

(Serious question unlike some of my tongue in cheek posts earlier)

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:01 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:No I’m not insular. I really like being part of the bigger picture...European or occupant of planet Earth.

I don’t have a problem with Scottish, Irish or Welsh people but I am tired of their politician’s moaning and threatening to walk off into independence.
so you find them tarnished by their politicians in essence, you can lump them all together, and be done with them, based on their poor political leaders.
Whereas the english have clearly nothing to divide them !
you must be joking, referendum chaos, changes of unelected prime ministers, north south divide the list is endless, but you can happily align your views with this putrid mess.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:05 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:If we were 4 independent countries, would we need borders?

(Serious question unlike some of my tongue in cheek posts earlier)
Who knows? If we were independent nations then each independent nation could decide whether to have a border. They could also decide whether they want to allow people from the other nations to come and live/work in their country.

In this age of being able to travel the world so freely and live amongst people from all different cultures and walks of life I find it a bit grim that so many people want to shut themselves up in their little bubble. Why the desire to sever ties with countries who we’ve had a good relationships with and mutually benefited from for a long time?

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Who knows? If we were independent nations then each independent nation could decide whether to have a border. They could also decide whether they want to allow people from the other nations to come and live/work in their country.

In this age of being able to travel the world so freely and live amongst people from all different cultures and walks of life I find it a bit grim that so many people want to shut themselves up in their little bubble. Why the desire to sever ties with countries who we’ve had a good relationships with and mutually benefited from for a long time?
I’m happy being English, happy with our neighbours and European friends. I’m just really fed up of listening to Scottish, Welsh and Irish politicians making their threats. If they really feel like that then go for independence.

Will be interesting to see if they can still afford free university education.

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Post by 4:20 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:41 pm

As long as we all got along, independance could be a good thing, we could even hand the Scots the town of Blackpool as a goodwill gesture.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:...each independent nation could decide whether...they want to allow people from the other nations to come and live/work in their country.

In this age of being able to travel the world so freely and live amongst people from all different cultures and walks of life I find it a bit grim that so many people want to shut themselves up in their little bubble. Why the desire to sever ties with countries who we’ve had a good relationships with and mutually benefited from for a long time?
Sadly that is the way the world seems to be going of late, be it the UK's Brexit, Trumps much vaunted wall or indeed the Asian & African migrants being blocked from entering Europe; Australia & NZ too appear increasingly reluctant to admit immigrants, most particularly those from SE Asia. After a 60 - 70 year period of what I heard best described 'drawbridge down', we seem to be entering an age of 'drawbridge up'; history already shows us that this is not a good long term policy, but given the way in which the world has changed so radically since that last drawbridge up era, I fear that in the 21st century, it'll prove even more disastrous. Over the last few millenia we've gone through periods of loyalty at whatever cost to family, then tribe, region, state and latterly unions of states, forced not least by increasing population, dwindling resources and improved travel and communications; trying to go backwards just won't work.

As always there's a silver lining or two: The 'end of the world' is certainly not upon us, we're just approaching the point where it'll no longer be survivable for homo-sapiens, at least not in vast numbers; not so clever for mankind perhaps, but no bad thing for the planet. More importantly, provided that BFC can retain their current Directors and manager for the next few millenia, we should be a shoe-in for winning the Armageddon Cup Final.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:46 pm

mdd2 wrote: NI I am sure will also become part of a United Ireland eventually.
It could effectively happen in another 14 days in many areas.
It certainly appears that it will be more "Irish" than united to us.

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:06 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Can anyone tell me how England benefits from being part of UK ?

you are a ****

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Re: The United Kingdom

Post by Dazzler » Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:38 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:I’m just really fed up of listening to Scottish, Welsh and Irish politicians making their threats.
Stop listening then...simples

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